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            <title>Prehistoric Civilization</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[xtrmn8r
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<blockquote><h6>Quote:</h6>I believe there was world wide commerce,but, there is no definitive proof that a civilisation existed that was equal to or greater than the technology we have today.</blockquote>
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Please nobody bring up 'Coral Castle' again, unless we are using 'National Enquirer' headlines as a primary source of information.]]></description>
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            <title>THE ORGIN OF THE DEVIL</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[The Bible refers to the devil in Genesis adam and eve beginning convincing them to eat from the tree of good and bad in the midle of the garden of eden.
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Good and evil is a balance in everything. One cannot be with out the other. Story of a brother and sister: A sister once very good has turned to an evil way saying the worst things to the brother. The brother's angry thoughts from her verble abuse is of beating her but controls his anger so he does not turn an evil way too.
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Anger, Ambition, Envy, Jealousy, Hate, These emotions can cause someone to turn an evil way. To control these and replace them using wisdom to positive emotions. Free will from the Anunnaki, to the Angels, to Mankind. Even in return of the Jedi Darth Vader dies with a good heart defeating evil and saving his son. The Bibles Devil Satan is one of Gods most beautiful of Angels ( not to praise him) but free will and teachings he led other angels to follow him. 
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Evil is taught, I know because I met a wonderful girl unlike any. I realized that she knows no evil and has never seen it and was very trusting in a world that would take advantage. I showed her to be careful and not trusting by watching real forensic case shows and make her aware of deception. Hate is taught to the young and we are responsible for how the next generation thinks. The great thing is nothing beats the power of Love and Light - Anuatlantian]]></description>
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            <title>Buired City in Missouri</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I have not been able to dig up anything, pardon the pun.  Nothing , zilch.  But this does not surprise me,  it is hard to uncover something that has been covered up for 123 years.   
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Question. How common was it for a hoax of this magnitude, well if it is a hoax,  back then to be in a major paper?  Well look what just happened with the guys who had a bigfoot in a freezer, it is going on today, I imagine back then it would have been more frequent, not to say this story is not true, just food for thought.....Pugzilla54]]></description>
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            <title>The Original Sun of God</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">YHShVH</span> is a kabballist riddle
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 a step in the ceremony of mummification
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 and a swan in flight
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YHVH
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YH VH
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YHShVH
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But to know the mystery of the Sun God, one must travel from darkness to the bright side of the moon.]]></description>
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            <title>The Nature of the Holy Grail</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[iam working on a grail post, what it realy looks like, and what it does. half way through, will post soon.]]></description>
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            <title>LunaCognita's Youtube Videos on Moon Cover-up</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Amazing photography , Thanks a million Nibiru...
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This is awesome. <img src="http://www.book-of-thoth.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/25.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /> To think what is coming through as visible
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or purposely hidden from sight is just amazing!]]></description>
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            <title>ica stones</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[from timeless earth by peter kolosimo
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excavations at laguna santa and else where in the brazzilion state of miras cerais, which have brough
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to life human skellingtons buried under bones of a toxodon (a ungulate creature about 9 foot long) the 
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meagatherium ( a large american tardigrade mesuring some 20 feet) and some dinosaures
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we are left with the question as yet unanswered. when did true man essentially simular to ourselves 
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first make his apearence upon earth?
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what iam saying is, there is plenty of evedence to prove the human age of excistance goes back than
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what was previously thought, from the evidence that michael cremo and other's BUT just because there 
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are rock carvings of humans with dinosaures doesen't indecate a spercific date. who's to say that some 
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dinosaures didn't become extinct and survived?
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http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/dino.html
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http://members.aol.com/livedinos/
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http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-site1.html
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http://www.faithalone.com/land_monsters.html
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from michael baigents book, aincent times
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a team of french and british explorers in a remote region of tibet found several heards of small horses.
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these horses were about four feet high with wedge shaped heads. the leader of the experdition said they 
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look like the horses depicted in prehistiric cave paintings in france and spain.
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from the same book we are told of two profesors, roy mackal and jones powell.
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they were told of a mokele-mbembes a kind of diplodocus in the congo,
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http://www.mokelembembe.com/
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http://www.trueauthority.com/cryptozoology/mokele.htm
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with reporst of some of the 
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natives seeing a stegasurus. one woman called the animal with planks on its back.
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also a frank mellard in zambia was told of a kongamato, after being described what it was he showed the natives a picture of a pterodactyl. the natives said thats it.
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dinosaure in the bible
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http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml
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expeditions to Papua New Guinea (PNG) to search fro ropens 
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http://www.laattorneyvideo.com/nonlegal/pterosaurs/ropen/
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dinosaure in australia
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http://biblicalstudies.qldwide.net.au/cs-australias_aborigines.html
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dinosaure in england
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http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nation09.htm
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so if we have reports around earth of dinosaures why not souther america
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Colonel Percy Harrison FawcettIn his journal, Fawcett wrote, &quot;In the forests were various beasts still unfamiliar to zoologists, such as the milta, which I have seen twice, a black doglike cat about the size of a foxhound. There were snakes and insects yet unknown to scientists; and in the forests of the Madidi some mysterious and enormous beast has frequently been disturbed in the swamps -- possibly a primeval monster like those reported in other parts of the continent. Certainly tracks have been found belonging to no known animal -- huge tracks, far greater than could have been made by any species we know.&quot; (Lost Trails, Lost Cities, p. 187) were elaborated upon by others:
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In the Beni Swamps of Madre de Dios, Fawcett saw snake tracks which led him to estimate their length up to 80 feet. In the Beni also, the Colonel saw an animal he believed might be Diplodocus, the 80-foot reptile of twenty-five tons. This animal he thought might still be in existence as it was an eater of aquatic plants, which grow profusely in this region. The Diplodocus story is confirmed by many of the tribes east of the Ucayali
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http://home.earthlink.net/~larryorcutt/fawcett.html
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ica stones to show carvings of dinosaures
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http://www.biblepath.com/inca_stone.html
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http://www.fairservicenz.com/images/Incastone.jpg
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http://www.omniology.com/IcaPeruDinoArt.html
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its belived the stones were fakes but here is the other side of the argument
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The Ica stones were a hoax and officially a branch of the tourist industry. It was over or was it? When dealing with controversies of this sort, nothing is ever simple. Believers in the antiquity of the stones claimed that the farmer admitted to the hoax for a very simple reason: if the stones were genuine, he had been selling government possessions. Peruvian law dictates that archæological discoveries should be turned over to the government and he faced prison if found guilty. By admitting it was a simple hoax, the farmer was let off the hook and was able to provide his family with an income. When von Däniken visited the farmer in 1973, Uschuya confirmed to him that he had faked the stones; but later on, in an interview with the German journalist Andreas Fischer, Uschuya claimed the opposite. They were genuine, he insisted, and he admitted to a hoax to avoid imprisonment.
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http://www.philipcoppens.com:80/jurassiclibrary.html 
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also evedence to prove elephants still around
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http://www.editorialbitacora.com/bitacora/mesoamerica/elephants.htm#16abajo]]></description>
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            <title>Lumeria please.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[try this, also books have a look for w raymond drake and brad steiger
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            <title>TOA II - Tribes of Atlantis part II</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[British School of Archaeology in Egypt Studies. Vol.II
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Historical Studies
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1911.aD.
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festival of Tantah, some 200,000 plus attendees.
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Heliacal Rise of Sirius
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by E.B.Knobel
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based on the accredited observation of Censorinus as 139.aD.
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Sirius period=interval between two succesive Sothic risings coincidental with 
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the 1st Thoth (Egyptian Calendar)
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Sothis period...Julian years..Interval.....Sun's Longitude
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-2 ..............7171.bC....................61'5&quot;
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-1 ..............5705.&quot;.......1466 years....71'0&quot;
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Zero ............4235.&quot;.......1470..........81'14&quot;
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1 ...............2775.&quot;.......1460..........91'53&quot; 
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2 ...............1317.&quot;.......1458..........103'13&quot;
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3 ...............+139.aD......1456..........114'56&quot;
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4 ...............1591.&quot;.......1452
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5 ...............3039.&quot;.......1448
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Corresponding Season at present(approx)
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-2.....May 21st
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-1.....June 1
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Zero...June 11th
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+1.....June 23rd
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+2.....July 5th
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+3.....July 17th
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The length of Egyptian History.
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by w.M.Flinders Petrie
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&quot;The history of Egypt has thus become an essential part of European history. And as its civilisation was more continuous than that of Europe, and used regular records at an earlier date,so its history has become the backbone of all pre-historic chronology of the Mediterranean.&quot;
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&quot;The acceptance of this history has however been much impaired by the discrepancies between the statements of different modern authors. These discrepancies,it is true,are not in the original data to any serious amount,but only in the arbitrary and varying extent of the modern rejection of the Egyptian's own statements. Yet of that the public can hardly be supposed to be aware. It is with the view of shewing the consistency of the ancient data and history,that the following sections are put together. The difficulties in accepting the general outlines as recorded,lie wholly in the internal consciousness of the critics.&quot;
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&quot;Unluckily in Egyptology not even original documents will convince a critic,he only denounces the documents as wrong.&quot;
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The Date of the IIIrd Dynasty.
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On uncovering the eastern face of the pyramid of Sneferu at Meydum,many of the casing stones which had been thrown down, were found to have quarry marks upon them. These quarry marks were of the year xvii, shewing that the whole pyramid was built to its final single slope of casing in seventeen years, out of the thirty years stated for the reign of Sifouris. 
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Besides the year there are also stated the month,and sometimes the day...
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Thus these quarrying marks cover half the year,there being examples of five out of six months. Now the season of quarrying was during the spring and summer.
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The inundation follows in July,and lasts over the country till the end of October. This made it easy to transport stones on rafts from the quarries to the building sites. By the beginning of November every man is busy sowing on the bare mud. Hence the season for quarrying and transport of stone opened in March and closed in October.
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If the quarry date of 22nd of 2nd Pert (Tybi-Mesore year) was then the 1st March, that shews the year to have been 4730.B.C.(or 3222.B.C.). 
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The other limit is that the 8th of 3rd Shemu(Pauni) came before the fall of the inundation, at the latest 20 Oct. for navigation. This would give a date of 5136.B.C.(or 3628.B.C.). 
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The limits thus possible for the 17th year of Sneferu are 4730 to 5136.B.C.(or 3222 to 3628.B.C.).
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Now the xiith dynasty is fixed in the Sothic cycle, by a rising of Sirius on the 17th of the 4th month of Pert in the 7th year of Senusert III. This is always accepted as shewing that the xiith dynasty was from 3459 to 3246 (or 1999 to 1786.B.C.);but the fact of the Mesore year prevailing then should make us set this 120 years earlier. 
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Thus quite irrespective of whether Manetho and the Turin papyus are correct about the Hyksos period, or whether the chronology there be arbitrarily shortened, the interval between the iiird and the xiith dynasty is now defined between certain limits. 
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Manetho's total from iv to xi dynasties- 1198 or 1284 years
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Limits of interval by quarry marks- 1138 to 1683 years.
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It is clear therefore that either of the readings of Manetho are within the limit of the quarry dating.
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It seems that the only logical course is to accept Mesore as the first month in both the xiith and the iiird dynasties; and following the shorter readings of Manetho we should accept the date for the xiith dynasty 3579 to 3366(or 2119 to 1906) and for the end of the iiird dynasty 4777(or 3317).
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The Remains of the XIIIth to XVIIth Dynasties.
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&quot;The monuments of this age have been so strangely ignored that a false idea of the period has arisen.&quot;
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&quot;The Hyksos period of the xvth and xvith dynasties has been also curiously misrepresented.&quot;
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...there are altogether about a hundred(Scarabs),with the names of 28 different kings.(Hyksos).
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Ant-her
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Sem-Qen
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Khyan (statue,sphinx(Baghdad),jar-lid (Crete)
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Yaqeb-her
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Apepa I
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Nofer-ka-ra
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Nub-ka-ra
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Kheper-ra
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Ka-ra
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Aa-neb-ra
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Uazed
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Sekt
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Sam-ka-ra
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Noferui-uah-ra
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Maa-ab-ra
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Shesha
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Aa-qer
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Kha-user-ra
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Sekha-ne-ra
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Yaqeb-al
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Aa
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Aa-hotep-ra
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Qar
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Ykha
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Ya
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Maa-ra
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Nuby-ra
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Er-du-ra
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Apepa II
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518 years of Hyksos rule for the xvith dynasty
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Manetho's Dynasties
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I......253 years
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II.....302
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III....214
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Total.....769 years
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IV.....284
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v......248
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vI.....203
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vII....75
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vIII...146
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IX.....100
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X......185
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XI.....43
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XII....245
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Total.....1529 years
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XIII...453
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XIV....184
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Confusion..100 years
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XV.....284
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XVI....518
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XVII...151
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Total.....1690 years
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XVIII..263
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XIX....209
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XX.....135
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XXI....130
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XXII...120
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XXIII..44
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XXIV...6
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XXV....40
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Total.....947 years
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Total from 1st to 25th Dynasties Manetho - 4935 years.
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&quot;Unfortunately the habit of arbitrary shortening of the history had become so strong, that the later date was adopted by many writers, in spite of the insuperable historical difficulties, and without even looking at the probability of the earlier date, which accords with the Egyptian histories.&quot;
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(for example the 13th to 17th dynasties of 1690 years being compressed into 206 years on the assumption of overlapping reigns eight deep, which disregard Manetho or the Turin Papyrus records. This is quite improbable.)
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&quot;It seems impossible to accept the arbitrarily reduced history as satisfactory, and to reject the history given by the Egyptians as; an absurdity that does not enter into the consideration for scientific discussion.&quot;
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Dynasty
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1.......5546-5293
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2.......5293-4991
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3.......4991-4777
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4.......4777-4493
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5.......4493-4275
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6.......4275-4077
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7.......4077-4007
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8.......4007-3907
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9.......3907-3807
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10......3807-3622
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11......3622-3579
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12......3579-3366
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13......3366-2913
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14......2913-2759
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15......2540-2256
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16......2256-1738
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17......1738-1587
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18......1587-1328
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Source
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ETANA Core Texts
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http://www.etana.org/coretexts.shtml
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Seems I wasn't far off in my statement of Snoferu's sin on Dec.10th, 3474.bC where some 885 years were hidden by Khufu if we subtract one sothis cycle (1460 years) from the above dynasty list.-Paulo Riven.
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&quot;The limits thus possible for the 17th year of Sneferu are 4730 to 5136.B.C.(or 3222 to 3628.B.C.).&quot;- W.M.Flinders Petrie.]]></description>
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            <title>Animal Sacrifices</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Sacrifice requirements seem to generally become less violent and deadly as time passes. Like from cows and oxen to plants and incense. Using the Judeo-Christian traditions for example, in the Old Testament God demands constant sacrifices in the form of slaughtered animals which the priests were instructed to kill in specific ways to make it especially bloody. But in the New Testament God makes a blood sacrifice out of  his son  and no longer requires sacrifices after that. It's interesting that in Genesis' tale of Cain and Abel God rejected Cain's sacrifice of crops but accepted Abel's sacrifice of lambs. Though it's never explained(and Cain didn't seem to know either), it seems the reason God rejected Cain's offering was because it wasn't bloody.
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I find that significant because if the purpose of offerings were really about making sacrifices to God, then anything sacrificed should work as well as anything else of equal value to you.  The act of sacrifice itself  being the aim rather than God/the gods actually needing what you're giving them. But for the sacrifice to specifically have to be animals suggests another purpose behind it in my opinion.]]></description>
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