An Aerial View of Stonehenge

The view includes the circular bank, ditch, and counterscarp bank.
A number of the Aubrey holes are also visible. The Heel Stone can be
seen in the lower right.




Stonehenge: Phase 1 (2950-2900 BCE)

The earliest portion of the complex dates to approximately 2950-2900 BCE. (Middle Neolithic). It is comprised a circular bank, ditch, and the counterscarp bank of about 330 feet (100 meters) in diameter. Just inside the earth bank is a circle of the 56 Aubrey holes.

Research has revealed that before the Sarsen Circle of upright stones was erected, a 285 foot diameter circle of 56 chalk holes, 3 feet in diameter, was created. (These are called the Aubrey Holes, in honor of John Aubrey).

A CBS TV program in the 1960’s ran a computer analysis of the Aubrey circle. They declared that Stonehenge’s location—latitude 51 degrees 11 minutes, was a very special location for eclipses of the moon. This location produces moon eclipses in the repeating sequence of 19 years, 19 years, and 18 years. Adding 19+19+18=56. Thus if the white 3 foot diameter chalk holes were covered by a black stone, that was moved around the circle in synch with the passage of moon cycles, the black stone would arrive at the heal stone position, on the exact day when a moon eclipse would occur. (Eclipse computer.) (S.I.D.)

How could this stone computer have been created without the precise knowledge of the celestial mechanics of this unique geographic location? Certainly this was not the work of the early tribes that lived on this Salisbury Plain, thousands of years ago.

This S.I.D. (Stored Information Device) clearly displays enormous
information about planet Earth’s celestial relationships with the Sun,
the Moon and the rotational speed of our planet.

Following the stone computer, came the erection of the 30 upright stones that formed the Sarsen Circle, 100 feet in diameter. (My question was why 30? I divided 360 degrees by 30 and discovered the number 12. The number 12 is one of the most important numbers in the Anunnaki civilization…their Pantheon consisted of the Twelve Great Anunnaki gods, they declared 12 months in one year-2 twelve hour parts of each day, they created the 12 signs of the Zodiac. These Sarsen uprights are harder than granite and weigh 25 tons each. They were quarried at Marlborough Downs using tools not locally available at that time, and then transported these huge stones over 20 miles to this site.

The final construction placed each upright stone into the ground, forming the 100 foot circle with the top level of all 30 stones extraordinarily attaining the identical elevation.

The tops of these uprights were linked by a continuous ring of 30 horizontal Sarsen lintels, curved to follow the circumference of the circle. These lintels were anchored in place by tenon joints, (pin and hole in the vertical plane) and tongue and groove in the horizontal plane. I believe that this is the first manifestation of a temple structure, using tall vertical columns and with caps stones to tie the columns together.

When I realized all of the intricate details that were accomplished in this part of the Stonehenge complex, plus the 45 ton Sarsen Trilithon sighting structures, erected inside of the Sarsen circle, with much heavier lintels, I could only conclude that an enormously advanced intelligence built these structures. S.I.St. (Stored Information Structure).

This construction technique appeared later at many temples in Egypt, Greece and Rome. (Those structures were rectangular, rather than the circular shape of Stonehenge.) www.adamthemissinglink.com

Mind if I make this into an article Marshall ?

I did this one for you Tim.

Please feel free.
M

Who's Tim ? Thanks for the article

That was fantastic mklarfeld Thank you.

mklarfeld, I've read several of your Forums. I think you keep comming up with more and more interesting things. I think you would kick Daniken (author of CHARIOT OF THE GODS) in the rectum.... considering the fact that he didn't base anything that he stated on much fact other than one offbase idea after another.

You seem to slide into his hypothesis quite well and place factual information where it should be.

I'm sure you'd be a best seller.


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Great topic and post.. I'm intrigued by the idea that Stonehenge was built by these peoples, or an earlier offshoot of an ancient Sumerian influence.. A strange Celtic/Iranian mixture whose roots assuredly go back into Phoenicia and Babylon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimmerians

When you think about the Aryan invasions (Aryan/Iranian) of the territories in India around 1400BC, it makes you wonder the importance that the Cimmerians might have really had, and how a better understanding of them could fortify the visible bonds between seemingly unaccociated cultures and myths.


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Tuatha Dé Danann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatha_de

There are other names, but I believe that the information to construct this or the actual construction was done by the people who visited great britannia long before any of the government business, perhaps even before hume developement of "advanced tools."

Perhaps it could be useful to draw upon early norse mythos as well.

But i believe, before the ancient cities were destroyed (the neolithic -lol) of the Atlantians or Lemurians or what have you, they travelled the world giving majick to those worthy around the world, as though a last attempt to pass down lore before a major world-wide cataclysm.

But, if ya buy a lot of hubbard & parsons, the olde races = angels = aliens. All jus high level individuals with tons of magic or technology.

Bit far fetched, but i believe stories over history, guess it's the old druidic bard oracle speaking through me. (^.~)y

btw,
I believe stonehenge (aside from being a lunar calender) was a teleportation hub and also most likely used for divine transmutation (druids becoming animals), animal migration tracking (as most are lunar, especially fish & herd animals), a music & art hall, & a diviner's temple, amoung various other ceremonies.

What you guys think it was for? It may just be a calender, but it seems so sacred, like there is more... ^^

..then again, i know little of lunar patterns. Perhaps everything is much more lunar then we remember in western culture. The chinese calender is lunar i think...?

well, anyway, i really liked this forum (article), really got me thinking.

There's a brilliant theory in 'ThoTh-Architect of the Universe' by Ralph Ellis. He surmises that it is over 20,000 yrs old and was put in place as a giant astrological clock that 'ticks' away the passage of the planet through all 12 signs of the zodiac.

When first errected the sun rose through the first 'portal' and has risen through each portal in turn and is now nearing the final rise through the last portal, denoting the 'end of times' i.e. end of the learning phase of this particular earth cycle.

I don't explain it very well but he does!

Who built it? Or WHAT built it? Maybe?

Guy I listened to on George Norey (yes some say
he is an "agent" etc but its the bloke talking to him
about the Annunaki I was listening to, not GN!)

This guy says the base of the great pyramid
is 13 acres - and the base only deviates half an
inch up or down across the entire 13 acre
surface! This cannot be done today. The guy said
the base of the pyramids are on the top of a
levelled off mountain :O that would make a lot
of sense, after all, why havent they sunk into the
sand in the millennia they have been there?!

The stones in the pyramids @ giza are apparently
held together with a substance that is harder than
the rock itself and to this day they do not actually
know what this compound is! This stops water
getting in I guess. Thats assuming the pyramids
have experienced rainfall. They would have to be
12,000 years old according to this guy, sheesh,
I am being very vague here hang on...

He is called Marshall Klarfeld and the
show is annunaki_and_mankind.wma
from www.conspiracycentral.net

Why am I on about the pyramids you may wonder?

Well, I am pretty sure the same kind of intelligence built
stonehenge as built the pyramids. Also the nazcar lines,
same lifeform! Yes, perhaps stonehenge is WAY older than
the pyramids, or younger even, but I still think they were
built by the same "type" of intelligence.

Stonehenge is only about 200 miles from me and
I have never even been there!

On summer solstice last year, people who gathered there
got arrested. They were on the news, humming with their
eyes shut, thats it, that is all they were doing, and they got
moved on, kinda makes you wonder doesn't it? Why does
our Police and therefore our Government KNOW to go arrest
people there on summer solstice, of all days?

Why are they allowed there ANY other day (oh, apart from
Dec 21st too no doubt, but its cold then). It doesn't even make
me wonder about the magic of it because I know it is a magical
place with deep meanings, none of us can understand, otherwise,
heh, its simple - it just would not be there otherwise!

What annoys me is how our Government can just stop people
like that from going there on 22nd June. In fact it is actually
BEYOND annoying, there is a lot more to it than just arresting
and moving people. Thats whats annoying, how even to this
day, we are held back by these cheeky a**holes. Who do they
think they are? Actually making people move away from there
on summer solstice? It makes me livid! We are still in the dark
ages it seems. I say that and some might laugh but no, I am
being serious, we are still in the dark ages.

1st post in this thread is great - it really could become a book

Most people just fixate on the pyramids, but stonehenge is
again something all together different, but somehow tells
us the same things as the pyramids, astrology, impossible
stone lifting, etc.

Here is the story, hmmmm, THE story? Not really because
as far as I know they get arrested EVERY YEAR at stonehenge,
yeah they say "violent protestors" but come on, why would
there be violence there? What are they "anti-druid" or something?
OMG give me a break! No, just the TV telling us that CRAP.

One mans account - "I just wish we hadn't had to go through
a four-year legal battle to stand peaceably by a road."

Exactly, it is so worrying to me that our own Government
even knows to move people away, WHY? They obviously
know something about it we don't.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/290584.stm

WHAT THE - YOU ARE MASHALL KLAFELD?

Noooooooooooooooooooo!

I do not believe this.

I can't even type any more, I JUST DO NOT BELIEVE THIS.

I listened to the show, then came here, posted my big post,
then saw mklafeld and........ look, I am DREAMING HERE,
I must be.

I don't even get it!

Look, there are 6 billion people on Earth, I listened
to Marshall Klafeld on George Norey a few weeks
ago. Tonight I listened to it again. I came here
to look at "Last 24 Hours". Oh my, I sure as hell
did not come here to find Marshall Kalfeld I can put
my life on that, I swear on my own life!

Just came across this stonehenge post and... no,
it cant be happening, someone has gotta help me out
here because I am going nuts now please, how can
such a coincidence happen?

I already was sort of guessing "everything is coming together"
but from now on..... jeez, I think my LIFE CHANGED TONIGHT.

mklafeld joined over year ago and has 20 posts so... its
not like this is even remotely likely that I would come here
and find you the SAME TIME I am listening to George Norey?

Someone has GOT TO make some sense out of it, just
to make me feel sane again, I was about to go to bed,
there is no way I am gonna sleep now, not a chance.

10th EDIT!... I was gonna say, the most amazing thing
I heard is about the Annunaki leader going to Mars and
being buried there still.

I gotta ask then - what happened on Mars? I always
assume a war, nuclear maybe, or as destructive,
just because the Romans called Mars the "god of war".

Also - the "red planet" except, that is NASA lying to us IMO.

So much so I colour corrected a NASA image myself,
I did this about a year ago....



There are FORESTS on Mars, and LAKES there NOW IN 2006.
According to http://www.enterprisemission.com/

Also, when did the Annu leader go there? What existed there
"back in the day"? I think Mars is a war torn planet and have
thought that pretty much since I first woke up to other possibilities
about 2 years ago.

Never imagined I would have a chance to ask the man himself,
this is amazing! If mklefeld comes back here anytime soon that
is

Yep, we often get people of note coming here for a chat. They need to top up on ideas see

ThothMosesIII wrote:

Great topic and post.. I'm intrigued by the idea that Stonehenge was built by these peoples, or an earlier offshoot of an ancient Sumerian influence.. A strange Celtic/Iranian mixture whose roots assuredly go back into Phoenicia and Babylon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimmerians

When you think about the Aryan invasions (Aryan/Iranian) of the territories in India around 1400BC, it makes you wonder the importance that the Cimmerians might have really had, and how a better understanding of them could fortify the visible bonds between seemingly unaccociated cultures and myths.

WOW!
Cimmerians. I thought they were a figment of a writers imagination.

My older brother collected comic books for years. I used to read them whatever chance I could get, as he had them sealed in mylar bags. One of my favs was Conan. He was supposedly from Cimmeria. This is the first time I've read that word Cimmeria in more than 20 years. He had some very valuable books & comics. He won an only edition Batman graphic novel worth over $800 as he got it. He lost it all when he sold off his collection to finance his 1/3 of a nightclub which went belly-up. The guy who bought it was a very good friend of his so he got the whole collection for less than 1/2 it's value.

I can't remember the details (>20 yrs) but I do remember this.
Right on! Thank you very kindly sir. I am in your debt indeed.



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I can't believe they arrest people!!!
that's so insane, for a moment i thought u were referring to my government.^^;

It would make sense that each country's goverment is deeply in possession of the old magical relics & items for their "protection." Not just any mage can be allowd to gallavant up to the great Stones & cast a spell i guess. Perhaps if the Henge still serves for teleportation someone could learn to simply "warp" there, but the references to that I've read are vague & fantastic, and the Druids performing tose sorts of majicks were far surpassing that of anything modern (It would seem), though I have read stories of transmutation majick rituals being preformed in the 60s (but at least 50% 60s was probably bad trips), but I have read much greater stories from the native shamans about this sort of thing. Despite any of this, if one were to get into stonehenge, I'm sure that whoever really uses it would know & come looking for you.

They should at least let people go there to meditate...
When did everyone become ok with the police state? p(o.o);
Didn't you all invent Anarchy? lol

Maybe Stonehedge was built by normal man as an intergalactic restroom. And the center once stood an intergalactic toilet.

"They will come if you think they will"

The aliens are telepathic, strongly telepathic. If we can each send a telepathic signal to outerspace. They will come. I guarantee it. All we have to do as have and more people sending out a thought into space. To send a thought concentrate with your mind on the subject of the aliens coming to Earth, or simply think with these words, "Please come to Earth, please show yourselves to us." And then concentrate that thought into the sky and push it out so to speak. If we can all do that or a good number of us do that, they will come much sooner than they would if we did not.

This is MKlarfeld. I wish to thank everyone for listening to my interviews with George Noory. You may now listen to some very interesting additional interviews posted as podcasts here at BOT and again at our new web page GET (www.genetic-theory.com)
I am currently exploring the idea that many of the ancient stone structures, that were built by the Anunnaki, could possibly be have been created by manufacturing the stones!
What a great revelation it would be if Stonehenge's great stones were actually "poured in place".
More on this subject later.
Again thank you all for your kind expressions.
Marshall Klarfeld

If they were 'poured in place' as you say, then how come they can be matched to sites in Wales etc from where the stones are believed to have come from?

Or maybe you mean they 'melted' chunks off and transported them in liquid form and then reconstituted them?

I'm more in the belief that they were transported by a form of telekenesis. I remember something we used to do at school until it was banned for being black magic!! Six of us would stand around a person lying on a table, the person at the head would start by recirting this mantra/spell. It would go around the table to each person and when all had recited it we could lift the body up by one finger apiece, no matter how heavy the person! To return the person to normal weight another mantra/spell would be said in reverse order.

cannot remember the mantra but we called upon some spirit or other.

I have always wondered how sound would travel in a fully constructed stonehenge if a tuning fork was placed in the centre...

One of the posts above actually reminded me of two dreams (seperated by years) of teleporting from a location (almost like a football stadium in size) TO stonehenge but not the other way.

I only think the Police stop revellers on solstice is due to the amount of people that come that day. I would like to see stonehenge for real one day but if millions of visitors had caused damage to the site in the meantime then what would be left but a mud hill and rocks...


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If we check "The Geopolymer Library" X-Ray analysis and X-Ray Diffraction of Casing Stones from the Pyramids of Egypt, and the Limestone of the Associated Quarries (1984) by Joseph Davidovits, we will see that Davidovits work tells the complete story of the manufacture of the Pyramid Casing stones. Material to make these stones was gathered and in some, currently unknown process, those stones were produced and then glued in place.
Davidovits proved that the composition of the Casing Stones was not to be found in any quarries within 600 miles.
My goal is to make similar tests on the Stonehenge stones and the Inca Walls in Peru.
Any volunteers?

What a fantastic thread!!!!!

Can't volunteer though wish you the best with this endeavour mklarfeld.

Absolutely fascinating!

This puts a whole new meaning on the words 'casting the stones' (I'm thinking runes here of course )

That would be an interesting experiment Mark, haven't come across that research on the pyramids before. I have read that sound waves in the form of cutting tools was used to cut the stones accurately. Look forward to your findings if you get the idea off the ground.

mklarfeld wrote:

How could this stone computer have been created without the precise knowledge of the celestial mechanics of this unique geographic location? Certainly this was not the work of the early tribes that lived on this Salisbury Plain, thousands of years ago.

MM mklarfeld
I fail to see why not. Development isn't intelligence, but a product of it.
During his rather brief stay to date, man has spent most of his time in the Stoneage.... a couple of million years, give or take a few hundred thousand, why shouldn't elements of tribes around the World shouldn't pass on knowledge of something that they had time to analyse?
No, early man did not lack intelligence, and certainly had their geniuses too.
Stonehenge and other places like it around the World are the work of our ancestors, not our visitors.


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Great answer, Seawitch.

What if the visitors are our ancesters?

Another interesting thread .....
I have to agree with Seawitch in saying that our ancestors were not stupid and capable of remarkable feats as we can see all over the world. To ascribe it to 'aliens' , visitors, or other ancient dead races is unnecessary imo....though I won't rule out the possibility of an earlier civilization, now lost to us.

I'd have to disagree perhaps taken in isolation certain monuments could have been created by the ingenuity of the people at the time, but there are those which even today beggar belief at their complexity and precision.

The Great Pyramid being a prime example. Now I'm not saying they were built by aliens, what I think is that the knowledge to construct may have well come from elsewhere.

There's a commonality of mathematics and astronomy in most of these ancient wonders, something that's universal and global. Given that there wasn't that kind of awareness of other countries, let alone other worlds, I think there's definitely more to these monuments than meets the eye, and I can't accept that they were the result of human ingenuity solely, given that these seem to be the only examples of such.

Still,it's all down to interpretation, and ancient history is notoriously difficult to determine

MM all/THoTH
So I'm debate with Da Boss...ooeerr.....this is a first for me!
Okay, as i said , Development, i.e, Motor cars, aeroplanes, languages, isn't intelligence, but a product of it.
Mathematics isn't a development, but an exact science that was always there and always the same what ever way you choose to work something out, the right answer is always the same. Early man did have their geniuses.
They will have been influential and revered in their time.
That the Pyramids were built by slave labour as we were taught at school is now seriously challenged, Pyramid building formed a kind of National Service in Ancient Egypt and they were well catered for too it seems.
No, I don't think early man needed Alien help.
Kira, you asked if our Ancestors were Aliens? What type, Illegal ones LOL! I don't think they would have started with the Stone age if they travelled in from elsewhere in the Universe.
My own opinion of Extraterrestial life isn't that it doesn't exist., I'm satisfied it does in many places, however, what over whelms me is the ability to comprehend the distance involved!
BB
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I think there's a huge gulf between saying ancient people didn't produce constructs thousands of years beyond their level advancement on their own, and saying that they're stupid or unintelligent. Not even the brightest person develops such leaps in technology. The Great Pyramid employs construction that we're only just now capable of achieving. You would be considered a genius to develop technology or formula a mere 60 years ahead of it's time. Yet we think nothing of attributing ancient people with the development of technology three thousand years(and that's being conservative) ahead of it's time. If not being able to develop technology milennia ahead of everything else around you is considered stupid, then every single great mind you've ever heard of is a whopping moron.


I don't think anyone can say for certain who or what built some of these puzzling structures. But to say it's calling early Man unintelligent to suggest he had intervention is a rather large strawman in my opinion.