My experiences would have to be filed under.. "eh."

The biggest problem for me is the physical part. There's always a cold sweat sensation and general discomfort to the point where even the feeling of my clothes begin to irritate me.

As far as mental experience, I like others have had.. something.. communicate with me telepathically. It also feels as if a magnet is drawing me in a certain direction. In the woods I even heard something telling me to "come this way." Where to and for what purpose I haven't a clue. Also, it always looks as if reality is folding in around me. So, yeah.. interesting experience, but wish it would feel a tad more pleasant while it was occurring. I'm not sure how potent mine was, but I didn't turn into a tree or see anything turning into anything else so it must not have been as much as others have had.

Well I saw this thread and couldn't resist.

I've tried a fair range of substances over the years, and I have to say that Salvia is my favorite. It seems I am exceptionally sensitive to its effects, as with low dosage, low extract, on my first try I went WELL beyond the outer-limits so to speak.

Anyways, Salvia's the only substance I'll do, because each trip I've taken has been so enlightening. Not to mention the duration is fairly short, severe time-dilation aside, and I don't care for the long-duration of other substances.

Good stuff!

-Beelzebozo


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Oneiromancer wrote:

Salvia Divinorum...
Quite possibly my best ally, but I am always but a student still.
I will share to the best of my recollection my understanding of one of the earth's most mysterious mints.

The history of the plant is unnatural.
We can only trace it back to its use of natives, Mazatec shamans. It seems too that the Inca abused it in a grandious combination of necromancy ritual

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Are they the same as the ones in religions? (about 50% by my count so far, mixing & matching) If so, was salvia perhaps an old key to being & oracle or mystic? All info on the Mazatec cultural beliefes is once again, greatly appreciated in this matter.


WOW, that was a ton. ty to all who made it this far^^ could go on for a few more hundred pages now about what i "saw" but those to me are holy as prayers. The little red wagon trip is too, but some are too funny not to share.

Thank you for making this post. almost did this myself but was a hesitant due to the sensitive content matter. remember to always be safe, no matter what the substance, start small & progress to find your own limits before taking a ton. (this is a mint though, so it is very safe)

good luck to you all & happy explorations of the 4th dimension!

All this can be discovered via natural means.

For those who cannot see regardless, the blackness ensues. Their developmental state prevents it.

For those who may see, Salvia presents an immediate, enforced doorway.

This is not always healthy, preparation works best. As you have noted.

It is good to have a shortcut for the inquisitive, if it is needed.

Was reading the other day an interview with A Shulgin about Salvia D. and how groups of people were eating other varieties (species?)of the plant to discover psychoactive properties....pretty amazing how much is still to be discovered.

My first experience with SD was bizarre/scary. 2 or 3 hits from a pipe and I could feel this spinning motion as if I was being swung around on the end of a rope, and being drawn to the earth at the same time. I was transported back to my hometown...strange I thought, what am I doing here? Then suddenly I was aware of breaking through some sort of skin which kept me from 'the world as it really is'. At this point I was jumping around like mad, much to the dismay of my friend who was sitting for me.On the 'other side' were some people and family I'd grown up with who were celebrating that I'd finally broken through.
Unfortunately soon after SD was scheduled and withdrawn from sale

Definitely a plant which I'd like to get re-acquainted with. A DMT/SD/psilo. mushroom combo could get interesting.

Hmm was reading some of the recent posts and am surprised that people are overall positive about the plant. My experiences have been both disturbing and enlightening, but not something that I would want to do very often at all. In fact just thinking about it right now makes me very ill.

Nonetheless I appreciate my experiences. I once did the foolish thing of doing it alone, during which I began to lift up reality. As I tried to lift it up however I realized I was attatched to a chain, as if it was some kind of fabric. I became one with the room really, as typical furniture looked just like other human beings who were holding my arm, keeping me tied to reality. I was trying to break free, but they didn't want me to. Then I remembered I had smoked salvia and came back to reality - slowly, of course.

The second time was similar. I made the mistake of sitting against a couch and nudged a bit in the cushions. Naturally this produced similar effects, so I was "knotted" into a reality fabric. I tried to get out and eventually did - this had the effect of "taking" my friend's life, who was also tripping. She experienced something that was sort of like limbo, and as I ripped myself from reality the others were pointing that because of that my friend fell out of reality. I quickly moved to another part of reality, apparently in an effort to keep her from falling. I was successful, and then realised that I had smoken salvia and that it had all only been the trip. I burst into laughter - a loud, extraordinary laughter that lasted a long time and was greater than any laugh I had laughed in years. It was amazing, because the emotions were so strong and felt as if each moment was a decision between life and death.

I don't regret the experiences, but it's a strange world, I'd just as gladly stick to this one, for now.

Makes no nevermind - both worlds are one and the same. Your 3-D high density enforced amnesiac consideration of this existence (the thing that is reading this sentence right now) enforces the idea of the 'worlds' being separate. Nothing could be further from the truth.

This is what I'm thinking...


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I just tried the 5x 2 days ago and it was pretty discombobulating...
It lasted maybe 3 minutes but was very uncomfortable...almost too real.

I remember feeling like I was in the body or cells of myself and hearing myself say something very loudly that was too familiar but I couldn't make it out...I was in motion and when my body moved the tiny me in my cells or brain felt like it was being ripped out of our normal reality...

I went into this void ...I was ripped into this void as I was looking at my friend next to me it seemed like a big joke..I grabbed his arm and told him not to let me go because I was being pulled like a sticker off a banana into this void..

I remember seeing my family and they were laughing at me and waving me into this side of their world and gesturing to me that I had messed up pretty bad and had to start all over again...

It definitely dehumanizes the person smoking it because I really felt like that void was somewhere in between birth/death/limbo...Everything in my life was for nothing and this was showing me something important but I can't describe it in human language.

I hope this dimension doesn't really exist because it was very depressing and it seemed like there was a force I couldn't fight off..maybe like being sucked into it like a vacuum..

I smoked a smaller bowl right before that and it made me paralyzed on one side and lean sideways..I was trying to tell my friend not to smoke it while I still had motor skills but only laughter would come out..It was like the drug had a mind of its own I felt posessed..

anyway I plan to use it again to finish the episode I pulled myself out of last time...I heard it continues itself everytime you use it..But it wasn't fun and I knew that before I smoked it..I just wanted some kind of enlightenment I guess...


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Just had a conversation about this. If your idea is about "fighting" the established rules. Then by god you will walk up to the wall and behold it. You will behold it in all it's technicolor glory and yet you will be only seeing the wall.

The sadness I feel at this endeavor is accepting the consequences before you have accepted the "idea" that it is a journey. You feel you are navigators in a landscape that has never been plummeted and you feel that this is the only way to get there.

We are all landscapes to be plummeted and when you "agree" to navigate a certain way...you agree to knowing only a certain way. Salvia is a defined path and if you are willing to walk a defined path then by all means know that and partake.

But if you want a serious trip and you are willing to forego all boundaries. Then just ask. Not me...yourself.


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I am totally unsure about whether this has been posted or not but I only just found out that my e-book is just a website in disguise...

http://www.sagewisdom.org/

is the best reference material on S.divinorum i've seen. I've had this in E-book form for a couple of years and still haven't finished reading through it.

Soon to embark on my second Salvia journey of the year & hoping that the media talk isn't going to take this lovely plant away from me,
Dollhouse.