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You know, I just read an article yesturday on how they are baffled that these rovers are still in use 4! years after the 90 day expectancy to work. But I can't remember where I read it! :mad: Also remember a topic a while back of how the lenses? were cleaned. It was dirty one day and clean the next. :-?



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the object in question is very very small. Also the location is really close to the rover. Close as in a few feet away. When your zooming on the object and crop the pic, you dont get any reference for size. I think everybody should look at the nasa pic again...ZOOMED OUT, and note how close the object is to the rover. Its a great illusion that is fooling a lot of people because when they first see a pic of this object, its the zoomed in, cropped pic. hope this made sense


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Makahaboy....on closer inspection of those pictures the figure looks like it is descending down a slippery rock face...it has the left leg fully extended and breaking the slide, while the right arm is held out for balance...


Irahk...you could be right also...the human mind is so longing for certain info to be true that it will construct whatever it desires!...living in a world that keeps the people blind, is it any wonder?.. :-? :)


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Dead or alive you're coming with me, creep.

Just a little humor to lighten the moment folks :lol:


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Thanks Rev. :pray:

See I told you it was bigfoot. :P



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:lol: That's great Jason....what's the temperature like on Mars? Colder than here? The natives would need to grow thick coats maybe? :?


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This explains a bit about the rovers and how they may be lasting as long as they are.

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I have a GIF that was taken from NASA..taken from one of the rovers on Mars.
I tried to post..but it doesn't do the GIF thing..(won't move)

What it is..There were several wind eddies..(miniature twisters) that were recorded during daylight...as these eddies past by..they were lighting up..like full of electrical energy...ALL of them were discharging..

I feel this is the periodic charging that they seem to get..and with it being electrical..therefore magnetic as well..these eddies would take much of the dust that has accumulated..
I would imagine..they are almost like lightning rods..to these eddies..while sitting on Mars.

I will see if I can find a link...BUT..I think it is obvious why the rovers have lasted as long as they have..and why they were cleaned so well..

I just find it very hard to believe that NO ONE..from NASA..has even mentioned or hinted at this explanation..In fact..it doesn't seem to be mentioned at all.. :-?



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I found the page with the electrically charged eddies..

Just click on link and you will see what the Mars rover Spirit captured March 15, 2005.

Electric Eddies

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In the Rense article you linked to they mention pictures of Mars causing a stir from a Chinese website......anyone know anything about this or got a link?
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In the Rense article you linked to they mention pictures of Mars causing a stir from a Chinese website......anyone know anything about this or got a link?
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Hi Bogey..I tried to look into that..the net gets very slow..once in China, for me..I didn't get very far..my lack of patience would not allow me to sit the many minutes required..I didn't save any links I was trying to get at either..Sorry Bud..

Maybe there is someone else that had better luck..



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When I started looking at Mars many moons ago? I felt like life once lived on our neighbour World, but something happened to change it history into a dry barren one, bit like Australia, So what did happen, was it hit by meteors simular to the one that hit phoebes, Or the Planet X as it moves through our system, We know water did exist on the planet 20 to a Hundred million years ago but now that they say it might still in underground lakes across the planet
{Scientists believe new photographs confirm that lakes on Mars feed huge pockets of water (aquifers) hidden beneath the planet's surface, suggesting Mars is still habitable. }




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Hi keeper777.

I have very strong feelings as well that there was once life on Mars..I feel that it at one time..may have looked strikingly similar to Earth..But...as you say...and I do agree with as well..THAT it was a VERY long time ago. ;)



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Does this fit in?

If mars had water on its surface between 20 to 100 million years ago

And the idea is that a comet comes close to the earth every 26 million years and brings with it lots of debris that hits the planet, changes the weather and kills off lots of animals. 65 million years ago it might have killed off dinosaurs, pterosaurs and big marine reptiles. A related theory, that asteroids cause extinctions, has evidence in a big asteroid crater found lately in Mexico from 65 million years ago.

Is that to strange how they both would have suffered at the hand of a comet? now if that comet was the size of Planet X then the pull from its presents would be felt on its atmosphere when passing to close to Mars it would have the same effect as a Solar Systems getting to close to another Solar Systems they would start to pull one another apart.


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Yea scientist have found frozen lakes on the planet.What i now understandis that human life use to exist on mars some time ago.But not at this time maybe bacteria etc though


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Yea scientist have found frozen lakes on the planet.What i now understandis that human life use to exist on mars some time ago.But not at this time maybe bacteria etc though


Watch this David Flynn presentation, it has a lot of information about Cydonia on Mars. He points out the geometric patterns and compares them to monuments here on earth.

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Just a quick blast from the past...

It was around a year ago..that the subject of this formation on Mars was brought up..
Since then...there has been very little talk..and...I have yet to see any conclusive evidence to point in either direction of what it is.

Does anyone..have anything more that they can add to this matter ...that may shed more light on this sculpture/formation..on Mars?



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I found the page with the electrically charged eddies..

Just click on link and you will see what the Mars rover Spirit captured March 15, 2005.

Electric Eddies

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that is amazing...

It looked like several of them where racing each other...


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There are many interesting pictures here..



and here ...Not quite human, but TWO human-like skulls found on Mars by Pathfinder!


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Nasa has already admitted that there is viable soil on Mars.. 'just like we have in our own back yards... we know there is water there too.. we have all heard about Panspermia.. planets being seeded by meteors.. asteroids... so why not Mars???

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Yeah, I hear about that CS. I also read that they are now saying the Martian atmosphere is methane rich. There are two sources for methane in an atmosphere: volcanoes and methane-producing bacteria. As Mars is very stable for volcanoes they are speculating that it must be bacteria. They say the clouds of methane seem to correspond to the most viable areas of soil. So this IS interesting. It means we are being primed for the announcement that there is life on Mars. Okay, just bacteria... but think about it. If there are bacteria on a planet as inhospitable-seeming as Mars then there suddenly exists the possibility of life elsewhere. If there is life then there is evolution. If there is evolution then there is higher intelligence. Sufficient higher-intelligence equals space-farers. It's a simple, logical progression.

Here is my vote: this is all a part of the info-flow that is leading up to disclosure.

Sorry, entity, not really to do with the sculpture. But it IS interesting, no?



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Hi Zing...yep it is interesting..Mars is always interesting....much like our own moon...so many secrets..so many misdirections as to the truth of the matters..

There may be life there..but...IMO there was far more then just microbes at one time.

I guess time..may tell...all the secrets of Mars...

It has never really been a dull planet. ;) :popcorn:

Crystalsage, the thing about those electric eddies..is...those would likely clean off any dust from the machinery there...and...possibly help to give extra charge to the batteries they use...
I still find it funny that NASA still plays stupid..saying..we don't know why our machines are lasting so long.. :roll: Seems pretty obvious..even for someone that is NOT a rocket scientist. :P



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Yeah, I hear about that CS. I also read that they are now saying the Martian atmosphere is methane rich. There are two sources for methane in an atmosphere: volcanoes and methane-producing bacteria. As Mars is very stable for volcanoes they are speculating that it must be bacteria. They say the clouds of methane seem to correspond to the most viable areas of soil. So this IS interesting. It means we are being primed for the announcement that there is life on Mars. Okay, just bacteria... but think about it. If there are bacteria on a planet as inhospitable-seeming as Mars then there suddenly exists the possibility of life elsewhere. If there is life then there is evolution. If there is evolution then there is higher intelligence. Sufficient higher-intelligence equals space-farers. It's a simple, logical progression.

Here is my vote: this is all a part of the info-flow that is leading up to disclosure.

Sorry, entity, not really to do with the sculpture. But it IS interesting, no?


Bacteria has to feed on something.. the idea of a subterranean civilization seems more and more likely...especially if you think of the examples of the recent findings that crops grown in abandoned mines , under controlled conditions bring twice the harvest ..than those grown in conventional methods...



[url=http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2006/06/13/underground_pharming/]
Underground pharming[/url]

http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archi ... d-farming/



From a small start... huge potentials are discovered... the old idea that man can't successfully live underground... makes one think that this may have been done before .. in the old times.. those stories of ancient perpetual lamps of history.. evidence of underground lighting in ancient Egypt and other ancient civilizations... did we once live exclusively underground???

Were 'Adam and Eve' those who first ventured out.. above ground... as they found others for their children to marry.. we can assume that others too had ventured to the Earth's surface too...




[url=http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopicp-.html]The scientists, in partnership with Controlled Pharming Ventures LLC of McCordsville, Ind., have designed and built a crop-growth facility inside a 60-acre former limestone mine in Marengo, a small town in southern Indiana. The first test crop, planted in the underground facility late last fall, produced more corn in a shorter time period than plants grown in a greenhouse on the Purdue campus, said Cary Mitchell, a Purdue professor of horticulture.

"This first planting performed very well," Mitchell said. "We've shown that you can successfully grow crops underground in a lighted but completely contained facility. What we have here is a perfect model for controlled-environment agriculture. This could jump-start a whole industry."

Controlled-environment agriculture is a system in which all the inputs required for plant growth - light, temperature, carbon dioxide and humidity - are regulated to maximize growth.[/url]






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Bacteria has to feed on something.. the idea of a subterranean civilization seems more and more likely...


Yowzer, CS, that's quite a leap! Don't get me wrong I am not opposed to the idea that there might be subterranean civilisation but I have to say that it unfortunately doesn't follow logically from the existence of bacteria.

Let me explain: methane producing bacteria (called methanogens) on planet earth often live in the most extreme of circumstances. Like inside solid rock far below the surface of the planet. Or in the near boiling water of deep ocean vents. So, yes, you are right they DO need to feed on something but that something might be water and minerals from the rocks. As a general rule the one thing they really can't tolerate too well is oxygen as this messes with their biochemistry. Anyway, what I am saying is their presence neither supports nor contradicts the hypothesis of a subterranean civilisation. All it points to is that life is possible in an environment which we would previously have called uninhabitable. And if life is possible on Mars it is possible elsewhere. And if one follows the logical extension I proposed earlier then we get to the probability of ETs and visitation.



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Sorry.. I was also using the information from NASA that Mars had the same type of soil as found in our back yards... if so.. would it not contain some form of organic material ???

Test shows Mars soil has nutrients for life
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The soluble mineral nutrients it found, and the dirt's hospitable pH level, are both promising signs. However, the MECA instrument is not able to test for organic compounds such as carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, which are also necessary for life as we know it.


I think I read somewhere that the only reason they can't detect organic life in the soil .. is that the machine was not designed to test for organic materials.. ( probably in the budget consideration.. ;) as they didn't expect that test to come up... the machines are already lasting much longer than they expected.. and most likely they didn't expect the machines to be that successful....


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The results of both the TEGA and MECA tests are showing scientists that it's possible Mars may indeed have hosted, or may be hosting, some form of life.

"Over time I've come to the conclusion that the amazing thing about Mars is not that it's an alien world, but that it's actually very Earthlike," Kounaves said.






When NASA's Viking mission reached Mars in 1976, the twin landers uncovered no traces of organic material in scooped-up Martian soil. A study later found that the tests used by the Viking landers even failed to detect organic material on Earth in places teeming with microbes.






[url=http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/.html]Smith noted that the Phoenix mission does not possess the instruments necessary to analyze very long carbon chains or genetic material, so the results of any testing from the surface of Mars will be pieces to a larger puzzle, rather than a definitive conclusion on whether life exists or was ever present. “We get the pieces into the mass spectrometer, and we have to make inferences after that,â€


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I've been saying for years -- there is life on Mars -- and human life, too. Wait and see... if the aliens are really here (and we all are pretty sure that they are) then why wouldn't there be humans/soldiers stationed on the Moon and Mars as well as here on earth?

Anyone remember McKinnon's comments about 'terrestrial stationed' soldiers? I know I am not remembering it quite right, but I am certain that he was alluding to soldiers stationed in space or on lunar or martian bases.


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Hi tandym.

Yep...I know ET is real..and here...and there is so much to it all...that we don't have a clue...and that is not even including the lies that we are told by our governments and the secrets that they hold..

Like you , I do believe there was life on Mars at one time, though..I am not sure as to now...I believe it is gone.

There is certainly a lot of interesting things to see on Mars...it would be a neat place to stop by and see. ;)

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Wondering how it missed analasis by rover operating team, and if it didn't why wasn't it approached?


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