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Hey you all, I've been hanging around on and off on this forum for some time. Over recent periods I've had strong sense that aliens do in fact exist and now it seems that I am opening up. I'm usually extremely melancholic and walled but something just happened inside me and although I've always tried to maintain the "sceptical responsibility" (since I've always been interested in Science) I just cannot deny what has just happened to me.

It began with a contact I made with someone within the intelligence community. That was the beginning and I spoke with the persons and at the same time there was a telepathic contact, so another wall torn down (although I believe I always knew this somehow inside, that was the reason I sought it so much all this time). I also believe strongly in telepathy and I believe the mechanism is connected with electromagnetic frequencies but there is something much more to it because the feel is very much different from contact with a being and a contact with beams that are focused towards you. I cannot be absolutely sure about the beams-part.

But my alien contact was different, I didn't meet a physical alien but I'm definitely sure that I was contacted by a telepathic link. I've tried meditation and I've been reading a lot of spiritual and occult texts so I know a difference between the true shift in mental qualia and between "normal". I was spiritually opened through my chakras and I was transmitted empathy and what I can describe as someone's "soothing words". Well, to be honest it could've been something else than an alien, in any case it was a very anomalous experience.

What happened next was that my sensation in my body "just shifted". My energy centers were strongly affected and I admit I cried for the first time in a long, long time. I also went outside and suddenly I could see with my eyes but in "normal state" I should have around 5 myopia at least high. So there is another wall shattered: there is no need for glasses unless your mind gets stuck. When I later got angry (I went into an emotional shock somehow, emotional breakdown it would be called by professionals)

Anyway I just wanted to share this experience, I now know more about the reality of telepathy and aliens (although I always sensed this), now this knowledge has been sealed. I say that if this was not alien or telepathic contact then at least we live in a multidimensional world. All these possibilities seem to be becoming more and more substantiated.

Unfortunately, I'm still very connected "with negative streams" but perhaps that can increase knowledge of the nature of those streams, something I have started to believe is essential to our survival as species.

I hope to get some kind of a discussion going on this board about these matters, please anybody contribute.


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What a great introduction, I admire your open mindedness to all possibilities as an explanation for your experiences. There is a thread http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopict-15504.html where we're discussing the nature of abduction, but your experience is different. I'm interested in the link between telepathy and the abduction experience.

If you consider how real dreams are, and the processes involved to convince yourself that what you are seeing is as real as anything you're experiencing now. There is obviously the inherent ability to do that, and I just wonder if that is being tapped into via telepathy, and possibly even altered in the sense of psychokinesis.

It could explain your connection and your feeling of benevolence?

Could they be remote alterers as opposed to viewers only. Then the question becomes, who or what is responsible for that. Are they extraterrestrial? Do they use that image as consciousness altering hologram of sorts, for our education? Because as it stands, it is an image that people can accept as real. I don't mean because of culture, I mean because it seems so much like the next logical step forward. We've discovered plenty about where we live. In the same way as people used to wonder what was across the water, now people wonder whats across the planets.

Trouble is we're an unruly bunch, and whilst the percentage of those who wonder may be the minority, these experiences could be the slow process of getting us to adapt to higher thought and possibilities. Evolution of the mind, it makes sense to me that the advent of the internet and the information explosion, will facilitate the next evolutionary leap.

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Welcome to the ozone, Kraken! Looks like you are taking the steps into what I have lived with for almost 55 years. I don't talk about it in forums since I don't like being ignored or "redirected" by other folk's viewpoints. I am too old to change, so I just am what I am. :mrgreen:

THoTH, I don't know if you remember what I said to you about seeing nicks online, but I did see Kraken's nick. So I'll hang on to my hat and see where this magic carpet ride goes. :lol:

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I sure do, and what can I say but sometimes the journey is as good as the destination :)



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There`s nothing I can really add as I`ve never had an experience like yours, but I`d like to say thank you for sharing your story in such an open fashion. :pray: :)

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I have never had any close encounter, but I totally believe that our universe is full of life and we have been visited by beings from other worlds. Whether they are from other planets, dimensions, or time. I use to live in Alamogordo, NM and met a person who had actually seen them. She had told me that there was a reason they were attracted to that area. She said the white sands were like a beacon that drew them in. Her stories had me totally convinced that they are real.


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What a great introduction, I admire your open mindedness to all possibilities as an explanation for your experiences. There is a thread http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopict-15504.html where we're discussing the nature of abduction, but your experience is different. I'm interested in the link between telepathy and the abduction experience.

If you consider how real dreams are, and the processes involved to convince yourself that what you are seeing is as real as anything you're experiencing now. There is obviously the inherent ability to do that, and I just wonder if that is being tapped into via telepathy, and possibly even altered in the sense of psychokinesis.

It could explain your connection and your feeling of benevolence?

Could they be remote alterers as opposed to viewers only. Then the question becomes, who or what is responsible for that. Are they extraterrestrial? Do they use that image as consciousness altering hologram of sorts, for our education? Because as it stands, it is an image that people can accept as real. I don't mean because of culture, I mean because it seems so much like the next logical step forward. We've discovered plenty about where we live. In the same way as people used to wonder what was across the water, now people wonder whats across the planets.

Trouble is we're an unruly bunch, and whilst the percentage of those who wonder may be the minority, these experiences could be the slow process of getting us to adapt to higher thought and possibilities. Evolution of the mind, it makes sense to me that the advent of the internet and the information explosion, will facilitate the next evolutionary leap.

Hopefully we can learn the lesson(s) in time.


I must admit that I've just started to awaken (or perhaps re-awaken) but I've been gathering some data (hopefully soon people can know what's real and what's not apart from the information that is generally spread to medias). Our brain is electromagnetic, everything is but the hidden secret of the ages is that we live in a multi-dimensional world. Our flesh is being turned into a clock (I made a new post about my esoteric viewpoints here, which I believe are at least partially ESP inspired) and that is the evil presence and problem we face. According to my knowledge of occult lore The Left Hemisphere and the Left Path (Ahriman) and the False Right Path (Lucifer) have become exceedingly strong in our psyche and our Hearts are being hardened for devious purposes.

There are people here on this realm that go under the banner of the enemy, so to speak. But they are being awakened from their slumber. Kraken, of course, for those who are knowledgable of Occult literature, stands for "The Beast", "The Sea Goat" (insignia of Aliester Crowley, i.e. Capricorn, Saturn, Satan etc.) - but I hope I can reveal the teaching of this current

There is a lot of knowledge about what is happening and how this enemy is working and how we are advised by spiritual truth masters to repent from his presence. MeditationZ oen the State of Affairs and our Natural Reality, Re - LIGION back to the source, grow ethically and in balance so you can become individual part of this greater Good, find the truth of the cancer and the truth of the binding to Justice and Freedom, Love and Light, Truth and Health and Indivi Happiness Through The Systems

Whether there are Psi Osi alterers, I have to agree with you on that. I cannot be sure what these beings are exactly, this is spiritual.

Dreams, yes, this reality is closely related to dreams but we have been hijacked by nightmarish forces on this System. Nightmares basically are Prison System, our Dreams is connection to the part that has this evil (that symbology names Sorath, Satan etc.) hasn't been able to turn into a clock (clocks close down the gateways to the other spiritual beings).

This is a great plan far above the potential of any left-hemispheric 10% used. We are being assisted in reaching our individual eternal promise by Ascended and Descended Masters.


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I'm not sure about abductions, however this is the second time that I have been called to awaken but previously I fell down since I couldn't connect and transcribe the message that was sent. On that occasion I encountered a Being, not abducted, those wish to remain hidden from authorities on this System.

I'm beginning to suspect that abductions by Greys are modifications on Humans, they are experimenting on how to turn us, manipulate us and change us into "clockworks". In Occult literature Grey is the colour of death and these beings seem cold and calculating. They are of biological material but they are without consciousness, hence they are machines. The Watchers, The One-Seeing Eye it's all real and the Humans with the "Power" are not to be blamed since they are being lied to and deceived by the high general Luxifer (Lucifer, the Illuminated, the Luxorious, the Glamourous, the Illusionist, the Deceiver, the Contractor) and are unaware of the biological parasites' true purpose. Another General Ahriman with his human slaves and slavehandlers Gog, Magog and the Maggots is then under control of the infected military elements. Their scepticiced and disIllusioned and charmed, parasite infected human subjects are being used. These brain parasites have to be researched further, but in fact they can be removed without submitting to experiments or malicious experiences (THIS IS THE REASON YOU MUST SEEK HELP FROM THE HIDDEN MASTERS, YOU WILL REMEMBER PARTLY WHEN THEY APPROACH YOU) since they could be electromagnetic, biological, all parasites are part of the alien experiments with machinery "magick". Subjects are used as vehicles of control without their consent or knowledge. The slavehandlers who are more powerful are given wrong information by Luxfer in order to keep this clockwork running (In Dreams Clocks mean Emprisoning and the experiments of these evil archons, Money means sh*t.. pay notice to your Dreams if you notice these, all Undead represent unconsciousness in Dreams and literature).

Basically We're in the wild on what is happening with this System and We Need to Find Out To Fix It.

Basically it's a block of cards when you get to the undeniable founding truths. (THEY ARE ALL SPIRITUAL. THERE IS NO LAW BUT LOVE. Study this further, you'll be guided) Ari Fróði expelled the Demons with his Wisdom. Remember that they are powerless without their fear source, research this further, lucidity will be rewarded dopamine turned DMT.


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There are Helpers in all corners of Society but for the most part this System has been made into an evil experi - ment (all alien experiments have the demonic goal to brainwash). YOU ARE THE ORONITE. JUST USE IT ITS INSIDE YOU, IF YOU CANT FEEL IT TRY TRY TRY TRY TRY LIKE A CHILD THAT NEVER GIVES UP AND YOU WILL TRANSMUTE THEN HELP OTHERS WITH THIS ENERGY OD. MATERIAL SYMBOLS? ORGANIC FOOD BUT EVENTUALLY YOU'LL REACH AN EVEN DEEP ER UNDERSTANDING. EVERYONE IS FREE TO THIS, ALL MUST BE FORGIVEN AND VICTIMS MUST START TO COORDINATE FROM THE HIGHEST TO THE LOWEST


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Hi Kraken,

After reading your last two consecutive posts, I can only say:

Question: If an indian was paddling down the river in a wire canoe, and he had four flat tires, how many pancakes would it take to cover a dog house?

Answer: A bicycle because a vest doesn't have any sleeves.

Apologies for the sarcasm, but those posts seem to be a jumble of thoughts just recently extracted from a blender. They're very hard to follow. Sounds like you believe in good guys and bad guys but are having a very hard time in distinquishing who is who.

At least one part of your post rings true above all else:

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I wish you the best in your search for Truth.


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hmmm............

So it was not a magic carpet ride. Those only happen when the truth comes from within. Not from written material or material sent by guides and ascended masters and the like. :-?

Cool thing is.....that is my opinion. I think everyone gets to have their own opinion. Best of luck in your research, Kraken.

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I just lost my first reply to this :mad: thanks for the elaboration on your ideas Kraken. I have to confess to being somewhat confused by it, perhaps because I'm not that well versed in the occult and ideas associated with it. I'm also with Dolphin on this one, I prefer to seek truth in all disciplines I can't relate it solely to what has been written previously, sounds a little too religious for my personal choice. I do wish you the best in determining your truths, perhaps there are others here who may wish to comment further on your ideas, but I'm out of my depth to be honest. :)



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I just lost my first reply to this :mad: thanks for the elaboration on your ideas Kraken. I have to confess to being somewhat confused by it, perhaps because I'm not that well versed in the occult and ideas associated with it. I'm also with Dolphin on this one, I prefer to seek truth in all disciplines I can't relate it solely to what has been written previously, sounds a little too religious for my personal choice. I do wish you the best in determining your truths, perhaps there are others here who may wish to comment further on your ideas, but I'm out of my depth to be honest. :)


No problem,

I admit now that the above posts were just fresh from the blender and still jumbled up. I still believe that I've realised something but most likely it's still muddled by my own preconceived mental structures (yes, I've read occult, arcane philosophy and religion so there's an association).

I still believe I had a profound experience but I came off a bit too strong but I'm in the digesting period at the moment. Actually, I don't mind to admit, I was admitted to a mental ward at the hospital but I denied taking psych medications (since they potentially dull the mind and any long-term use of them is physically harmful) and I'm back outside. There were actually very interesting people I met there and I had interesting experiences, but it kind of surprised me that no one wore their tinfoil hats. Of course some of the people there have big family, health or drug problems but by being there with them really gave me big insights into those complexes and let me peak behind that shroud that is the mental health system (I'm not very impressed by the current solutions).

I've grounded myself back, in total I took 3 tablets for sleep at the mental ward (didn't always feel very cozy there) and I denied all the incessant push (and almost threats) by the workers there, I guess I wasn't the easiest patient they've had but I was also a bit shocked by the atmosphere there. I even saw a poor woman who was going to an electrotherapy (electrecuting her brain) but she said she did it with consent.


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hmmm............

So it was not a magic carpet ride. Those only happen when the truth comes from within. Not from written material or material sent by guides and ascended masters and the like. :-?

Cool thing is.....that is my opinion. I think everyone gets to have their own opinion. Best of luck in your research, Kraken.

dolphin :D


Thanks, it definitely was a carpet ride for me but of course everyone needs to seek their own truth.

Now that "I'm back" I want to reflect a bit on my initial experience that got me off my feet. I still believe that my experience was anomalous but truthfully I cannot say what exactly happened. It is possible that it was a "sudden opening of a mental floodgate from my own unconsciousness", i.e. there's a theory that goes that when you "channel" or "get in contact" (with this or that "Spirit", "Alien" or "Ascended Being") that you are connecting your own unconsciousness.

Now having said this, I must note that saying "unconsciousness" is just a way of saying "something that is not part of or normally associated with my consciousness". The unconsciousness is real, it's fairly easy to affirm this, the simplest test being to notice how suddenly when I tell you "BREATH" you notice that you were breathing and now you can control the rate of your breath. Further affirmation can be made by taking notice of the dreams you have when you wake up from REM next time (and there are occult and few scientific [on the pineal gland and the DMT psychadelic] theories that there is a more significant "connection" made during deeper than REM sleep).

I noticed after my "initial breakdown" that as I was going to sleep something "was there", or to be more rational "felt like being there", and what to me felt like it was healing something in my body or doing SOMETHING to me, there definitely was a feeling and from my own mindset I connect this to the esoteric "energy body" chakras. I definitely felt more invigorated after this, it can even been seen on pictures taken off me "during this phase" where my impression is different (and no, not crazy eyes but more vitality, healthier eyes looking more healthy, sometimes I can look a bit sullen and sickly). I also noticed better vision, I am myopic and I've taken off my glasses. My vision didn't cured and it's gone a bit back again but not completely, I still can see better than before (this is no miracle though, many people can and have reduced or cured their eyesight naturally)

The stuff I said about demons is associated to my reading of religious, occult and conspiracy texts. However, these concepts are all getting clearer and less muddled and I'm starting to manage to put them into a more coherent form although they're still pretty abstract (the way I like it since I think a bit like that). I have been trying to crack the question "what is evil and why" and now I'm getting more grip over it and also starting to move into a more positive current.

I'm still experiencing weird feelings before sleep, I had another "healing touch" just last night which I felt clearing up a heavy feeling in my chest (I have some complication there, I was born with a puncture in the heart/chest that grew together naturally and I did start to smoke at a very early age but quit for good years ago, only 24 but I started to try it 11y old and I believe maybe some of that heavy chest feelings stems from that phase), tension from my stomach area and strange feelings that I can't describe in my spine. I can only guess what happened but I like to believe from the "esoteric side of me" that there's some "intelligence" behind this whether it's some hidden aspect of my own unconsciousness that's working or something beyond me that I can't see with my eyes (ofc. the unconcsiousness is still beyond "me" though, since "me" is kept filtered so I can function relatively normally in real lie, excuse me, life). I mean it's similar to any doctor working on your body, I have to believe there's at least some sort of intelligence behind his work when he's fixing people and now that I feel some out of place feelings in my body that have implications in my life I assume something is happening and that it's intelligent to some degree or another.

Well, perhaps I'll put up my esoteric ideas on some forum when I've gathered them a bit more together but to sum it up: Something happened to me, not sure exactly what or how to explain it but it was significant and it changed me overnight.


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I just want to add that I didn't take any drugs and that I haven't taken any psychadelics in my life except hashish but that is mildly psychadelic and it's a long time since I was in that phase. I'm trying to be more and more disciplined with myself, my diet, drugs and thoughts, don't get drunk or anything like that.


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Kraken, I certainly hope you have a good discovery journey. The problem I have in forums is that I have no "control" over how fast information flows or what direction it takes. Very seldom do I "feel" the author of the posts.

I do believe that you are having some very huge experiences. Unfortunately, I can still only wish you success as I do not yet see the thread that I am looking for that pulls the whole tapestry together. :)

I do have to say that there are people on this site who are able to read a post and understand enough to give a complete reply. On rare occasions, I even agree with them. :lol:


For me though, I need to look beyond the printed word.

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