Are there any experiencers, etc., that can shed some light on what the aliens might think of our pets? In particular, dogs (or cats). I ask because somewhere I thought I read that the grays once said that we humans are too close to our pets. Not sure really. I'd like to learn more to compare it w/my own experience. My own impression is that the 'gray or grey', did NOT like my dogs.
Just putting this up there incase someone comes across this subject and can add something to it.
Thanks!
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Juno54
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:34 am
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Hey Cruiser!! *waves*
As there are SO many different cultures "out there" even within the same race there can be no blanket statement of what aliens think about our pets.
I have a bit more to say on this but not quite ready to reveal some stuff...and my kids are annoying so I can't concentrate!!
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:46 am
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Hey Juno54! *waves back*
You're right. I didn't know exactly how to word the ? but wanted to get the basic idea out there. The subject has been bugging me though......... and I wondered if anyone can add to this. For those of us that have pets, and we treat them like family, know that they have individual personalities....... and I keep getting 'sentient beings' when I think of my loyal furry friends. Sorry if I ramble on here but then I think, was I supposed to have a close encounter of more than just the third kind? Had it not been for the dogs?
Can dogs sense a beings invisible presence? Sure seems so. So this is what's so frustrating to aliens that sneak up on us?
I don't mean to make it sound so dark........ but this re-visits me. Just seems as though we'd have no animals in shelters if we found that they are mans protector (aside from the obvious 'intruders etc) But were meant to protect us from an alien threat?
(I haven't given up on benevolent alien life, I'm just wondering here)
Everyone has the flu here so I understand, sometimes it's hard to stay focussed.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:20 am
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Gonna PM you hon...
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First off, greys are a hive mind. Love, friendship are not in the vocabulary. Dogs, cats will know and make certain they let us know if one is around! It's not a life form they are used to. I'd be like warning of someone entering the house to do harm. It's an unknown. Plus double unknown with the scent I'm sure.
You really can't think that our thought process is the same as these entities. Some of the reading I've done makes bigfoot out to be sort of like a pet for certain ET's. That they can disappear in different dimensions. I don't know? But I'm one that thinks truth is stranger than fiction.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:21 am
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I agree Kira. Since watching the P. Schneider vids. I'm not going to kid myself, I don't know for sure what 'kind' it was ........
but my dogs were not havin' it! And I KNOW they love me..... so I trust their judgement as they sensed it before we even saw it.
They either smelled it, or heard it...... maybe it gives off a vibration..... who knows, but they sure knew it was out there.
I really don't even like talking about it, and here I am. Just feel like BoTers are the type of folks I can share this with, makes it easier to deal with.
So I agree w/you.
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Kira
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:36 am
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I know what you mean cruiser. This is the only place I can come and let it all out. Thank god for THoTH and the internet.
I would imagine scent would be the biggy. That's the first thing they pick up on. Poor things, I bet they wanted to go after it but the scent scared the hell out of them.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:19 am
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them stinkin' aliens!
thing is, I didn't notice a smell but we had about 40+ or more feet between us...... from back door to just inside fence. The dogs do have a keen sense of smell. They also hear the car coming home before I ever do. I swear the dogs in this neighborhood speak to each other. I'm sure they have a language all their own. Probably keeping an eye out for that alien. I've wondered.
THe subject of all this alone could be a science. btw, who coined the phrase, 'dog is man's best friend' It rings true at our house.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:08 pm
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Finally I can see the forums again! Thank God.
Maybe the grey didn't like the dog because a dog's first instinct would be to protect its owner where as a human's first instinct is to be afraid. It could have perceived your dog as a threat.
Aside from greys, I'm sure any emotional extraterrestrial being could appreciate the connection between a pet and its owner. Although, we really shouldn't be using the term 'owner' because its more of a companionship. I don't think its a primitive concept, it shows love and respect for other forms of life. If anything its a step forward in evolution.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:28 pm
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Hi anomynous,
I think your right on it. ALthough, I sensed the fear in my dogs at the time as well. But they were doing their best to give it you- know- what. Being very protective but did not approach it from a certain point.
I didn't show my true level of fear until it vanished. I was thinking to myself...... and when it suddenly faced me w/those eyes.... (there's the shock treatment)........ I just drew my feet together, and thought very seriously, 'That's NO TEENAGER'........... I think at that point it didn't get what it was looking for........... but I can tell you that I then became more afraid than I ever have before. So you see what I mean by thinking if people can just realize that they exist in some form? and to expect the unexpected just in case you cross paths w/one. It might help to control the fear factor they could be looking for.
Just trying to figure it all out. And your're right...... dog and man are companions, buddies. It's a shame so many people never learn that.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:23 pm
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I can't contribute much here, but back in the day when I was in a UFO group, UFO sightings were accompanied quite often by pets going a bit crazy. I remember asking Cruiser if they were tuning into his apprehension, but I know now that they sensed something first.
Just wanted to say in terms of UFO sightings, pets or other animals being restless was quite common.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:38 pm
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Hey Thoth,
I can imagine. These two labs are a bit on the hyper side as it is. I'm thinking in terms of describing how they reacted to 'it'.......
'restless' may not do them justice. This event was 'critical' on all levels for them, and me. Thanks for adding ...... you've been around long enough here at BoT I'm sure you could add much to any thread. Don't be shy, even though I realize I sound like a woowoo to some.
I'm hoping that we can learn something, anything from what took place. Either by way of communication or protection maybe when it comes to 'visitors'.
Thanks!
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:35 am
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Both my pups have, at times, backed away and growled and barked at things that could not be seen.
The point is, neither of the two dogs were capable of barking. They were non-barking dogs types. They'd barked maybe 5 times each, in their entire lives. They only barked under extreme duress and as a warning of extreme danger.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:41 am
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I used to raise bob-white quail, and anyone who's done that knows the chicks are precocial and about the size of a bee...http://www.lakecumberlandgamebirds.com/P1010009.gif so they must be kept indoors for a few weeks, usually in a lamp-lit cardboard box.
Often they would get 'spooked' for no reason and begin their quail behavior of 'sneaking' through invisible grass, indicating that they were trying to 'hide' from something that none of us could see.
(Quails naturally live in tall grassy areas)
We had no other animals in the house at the time, and the chicks were well acquainted with people so it wasn't us that was spooking them. Ah, who knows. Maybe animals respond to aliens the same way they would to a ghost/spirit.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:02 pm
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Those are some cute chicks LadyOruall. We raised our two cockatiels by hand too. They sometimes seem to get spooked easily, but are easy going for the most-part. Sailor (male lab) is skittish (easily frightened) and he doesn't handle thunder well....... I've watched him in the yard, standing still and sniffing........ all of a sudden he jumps turning and looking behind him as though something poked him. Can't say I blame him. Autumn on the other hand is very vocal, and doesn't miss much. Their instinct is keen....... I find I have to constantly reassure Sailor that everything is ok, he gets upset easily. Follows me everywhere.
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The above reminds me of an incident I observed at the Alamo.
The Alamo Rangers (security force) have a cat they have adopted which roams the Alamo grounds. This cat thinks he owns the place. When I was there once I saw the cat walking across the ground. All of a sudden he stopped in his tracks and assumed the well known cat position of " I see something and I am very curious as to what it is." He hunched his back, shifted his body slightly sideways and was staring at something. I looked in the direction he was looking and try as hard as I could, I saw nothing. But undoubtedly he did. After a moment or two, he relaxed and resumed his patrol. Strange indeed.
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I've had that gift back, Bubba. I regressed myself back to past the birth moment via self hypnosis/meditation/remembrance, via sitting still every morning for two hours and remembering my childhood,and inching myself back to the birth point. It too six months, but when I got there..I went back into the womb. Then all hell breaks loose, but not really (not a nasty breaking, just loose and old fear issues in the human mind), if one is paying attention. The gift of seeing past the dimensional doorways comes back to us..if it is done right. In the same way many animals don't have the self imposed limit humans have with the collective 'illusion' of reality humans live in.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:44 pm
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Hi Kira .
As to the "greys" "hive-mind" some do but there are at least 22 types that people tend to call "greys"...and those are only the races that we have identified! My point is that we have them all mixed up so we can't blanket statement about "their" mind-set on anything, plus mind-sets change.
Funny, we're mouse-sitting for 5 days and the eyes are like that of many E.T.'s...but when they're on a cute little furry face with a twitchy nose they're not quite so frightening.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:44 pm
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Hi Juno54,
Thank you for the pm. I find it interesting that you mention the Dugong. If it is the same as the manatee, I've had an interesting experience w/one. Some years back we visited family for Thanksgiving on the Crystal River of Florida. We took the family out for a spin in a little Boston Whaler to see the manatee..... stopped the boat, and spent a nice visit w/one special manatee w/a particular scar on it's face. Poor things are so beat up from boat's zipping over them, they are slow moving. Anyway, we head back home to N.D..... and next day turn on 'Reading Rainbow' for kids to watch. They were doing a show about a manatee in the Crystal River of Florida, w/the exact same scar.... a very friendly manatee. I'm sure it was the same one. I love it when that happens. The family has visited Crystal River waters since I was very little. Now what might be the connection to these 'sea cows' and our visitors? We know they are endangered and need protection. I'll have to refer back to your pm.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:03 pm
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Cruiser hon, the Stellar's Sea Cow species is now extict. People often refer to their close relations, the Manatee or Dugong as Sea Cows but they were a distinctly different species. (I didn't know any of this until after being bugged by "them" about it so I wouldn't forget to mention it...they started "dugung" as soon as I started writing but waited to look it up afterwards so I could give more input to you.) I think that message, care of our effect on other beings, was one reason they mentioned them (for all), but the other reason (I did feel) was connected to you. But how do you say "hey friend, you remind aliens of sea-cows"!!!
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:15 pm
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@Juno54!
I have always loved the manatee. Maybe the message was more of one that we are soon to lose them if we don't take care in our urban sprall?
Their habitat is filthy thanks to us humans. I remember the days of sewage dumping into the ocean....... we called them 'the honey pots', and tried to avoid them.
Anymore channeling w/the aliens Juno54, don't hesitate to share it w/the rest of us. I dont mind if they called me a sea cow.
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dogs and cats have a acute sense of hearing and smell. in addition their hearing is directional, to aid in finding prey.that is why you see them move one ear to the side , and if they hear something they turn towards the sound, to better locate it.the thing the dogs may bark at might be on the other side of the wall, and if you could see though the wall you would probably see what they are barking at.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:35 am
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Hi Minifang,
I think we all agree that they have an acute sense of smell, hearing. I like to find what gets them shook up, wherever the cause. But Autumn tends to start her chatter barks, that she seems to wait for the others down the street to send a reply, then she gives more.......and so on. It's a language all their own. On the ocassion of our experience, I saw what the dogs were barking about.... no guessing there.
But you're right.......... and they can alert us to things a little in advance that we otherwise may not notice.
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