Unidentified Submerged Objects, what do we know about them? How often are they reported? How many of them emerged from the sea prior to its sightings in the sky? If they emerged from the sea, is there a base undersea? Is the Bermuda Triangle linked to it?

Batty


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http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case487.htm


Who knows whats under those vast oceans ....i think i saw lately that they're over 90% unexplored........a great hiding place eh?
Plus completely unaccessable unless you can haul out tons of rare equipment...in which time whatever you're looking for could be well gone


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Ivan Sanderson has a really good book about this called "Invisible Residents" he chronicles dozens of cases of unusual craft being spotted either in the water, or leaving/entering. Given that the earth is covered in huge expanses of water, it would provide the perfect hiding place for bases of any kind.

I had this site bookmarked for a future article, it is the best I've seen on the subject.

http://www.waterufo.net/menu.htm


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Batty, you might do a search for USO in the UFO forum here - we've had a few discussions of USO's.


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I saw something on the discovery channel about submerged UFOs where a guy said that they use the salt content in the water to somehow power their vessels. It sucks I can't remember what he said exactly.

Wow! Says they have "1,119 cases from the year 1067 through December 18, 2007" there.

Sweet find find! Boss.


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I had some free time today and spent the better part of two hours reading the link. got me wonder'in, memory ya know. My own experience which is what I have, anyway I was looking for navigation problems at sea. I remember that we would encounter what we called "Magnetic Dead Spots" Many times I have seen the mag compass just spin wild for no reason. I was told it was common and just have the helmsman switch to gyro. Maybe a connection, maybe not, just a memory. got me wondering. Thanks, good page.


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map-reference wrote:

I was looking for navigation problems at sea. I remember that we would encounter what we called "Magnetic Dead Spots"

I vaguely remember my father watching a programme about the Bermuda Triangle, how ships used to sink and planes crash in that area. He muttered something about a UFO base being responsible and he felt there were 'alot more of these Bermuda Triangles' around than we think. For some reason, his comment came up the other day and it got me wondering about it. Like THoTH says given that the earth is covered in huge expanses of water, there is a lot of hiding places. Be interesting to pin point where the "Magnetic Dead Spots" are in the planet.

Batty


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map-reference wrote:

I had some free time today and spent the better part of two hours reading the link. got me wonder'in, memory ya know. My own experience which is what I have, anyway I was looking for navigation problems at sea. I remember that we would encounter what we called "Magnetic Dead Spots" Many times I have seen the mag compass just spin wild for no reason. I was told it was common and just have the helmsman switch to gyro. Maybe a connection, maybe not, just a memory. got me wondering. Thanks, good page.

Hi map-reference

That sounds interesting indeed, were they the same spots where the compass would spin, or did it just do it randomly?


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In the old "Are you a Starseed?" thread there was an account of an encounter with one of these...I had never heard of it before & had to ask what USO stood for. A few weeks later I was clearing out some stuff & came accross a picture my son (9 at the time) had drawn giving exact detail as the guy's story online. I had figured out that he was an experiencer but that one *ah-hem*, pardon the punn, blew me out of the water!!

Hi, the dead spots were random. Never the same place, also being me I would look for anything unusual in the surroundings but never saw anything, just ocean. I heard stories from other sailors too about the same thing. One fellow told me though that it was where the field on the earth entered the planet. Pardon my tech description of that. I'll do some surfing in the net today, see what I can find.


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What a link T! Thank you.

Welcome back juno missed ya. Have you asked your son about that picture he drew? Be interesting to know what he was thinking.

What better place to be mostly unseen then under water. There are many military (navy) sightings too. Can't wait to see what you find map-reference. Common huh? Good thing they have a back up. lol


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Thanks Kira...I missed you too! (Where the hay is willowfae?)

He has been telling me now that he lied about everything so he's not discussing it. I know what he told me before was right, as do others but I don't want to push him on it if he's not comfortable. One day I'd like to know all of what has occured with him.

Well, I made a decent search for the dead spots and come up with many theory's by various people, only a few stories of it, mixed in with the fantastic. One solid fact I found was that it is accurate to say that there are known places on earth that the mag compass will point to true north, with charicteristic fluctuations of 60 degrees max. It is believed this is cauzed by magnetic rocks, land or sea. I have more looking to do into briefly appearing wormholes and some other ideas I happened on. once I figure out how to put links on posts and pics ( looking in to that now) maybe I start a different thread. I am getting the impression though that there is an explanation that's natural. Oh and as far as it being common in my sailing, at least once a month in the triangle, sometimes twice. That would be over the coarse of 6 years at sea with 2 or 3 days in port a month.


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I have no idea juno? People come and go on this forum. Sometimes just disappear, the internet is like that. Beats the hell outta me that they don't at least let someone know WTH is going on.

I've read and seen docs on these magnetic areas, it was so interesting but I don't have any links. There's been a few shows on USO's this week, a couple were from the Catalina area in Ca. One of the guest's theories was of underwater bases. He had to hem and haw like, oh ya..I know it sounds impossible but....this is what I think from the hundreds of accounts I've investigated.

I think it's time to quit having to prove ourselves and have the skeptics prove themselves. They can't. Not without lies or turning the dellusional finger at the one trying to say what they SAW!

In UFO Hunters they said the concensus was 10% of sightings were real and the rest hoaxes or whatever. That's SO wrong!!! It'll be right if you listen to CNN or FOX or a number of alphabet soups, but it's WRONG! It's like saying unemployment is 6% when in fact it's more like 40% if not more.

Anyways underwater bases, magnetic intrusions to our equipment, craft flying in and out of oceans are not to be dismissed. They are real.


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Hello, I have done a pretty extensive search (on the net) and have been looking for a natural explanation for the mag disturbance. Only one, that's remote, the USGS states that "the earths mag field is changing in a complicated and unpredictable fashion. It changes significantly over the coarse of decades". The USGS further said that these lines connected to the poles were about 10 miles apart. I thought maybe what I saw were these changes, but they don't define the changes so really I don't know. Then I saw all the above mentioned by Kira and did alot of reading from the Philadelphia exp to the underwater bases. Read one fellow's report on dives into the ocean trying to prove the wormhole idea, he was from a university here in the states. Think I'll look more. My bet though is craft, only because the mag disturbance I witnessed were in different locations and not repeating at a certain location.


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Quote:

"the earths mag field is changing in a complicated and unpredictable fashion. It changes significantly over the coarse of decades".

I wonder why they'd say it takes decades when it changes hourly, doesn't it?

http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html

Ya, all we can do is keep searching, seems like it's a never ending search, but then learning never does end does it?


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From what I gather the Magnetic Pole in south Antarctic is shifting because of the Earth's magnetic field is constantly changing.

From 2005 the point of the magnetic pole was moving north west roughly between 10 - 15 kilometers (6.214 - 9.321 miles) per year. That's a lot in a year never mind a decade! I wonder why it is moving north west as I was lead to believe that the magnetic pole was moving about 'all over the place' being erratic?

Batty


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I read about the poles too, they are moving quite a bit. The changing I was refering to were called "field lines" that run on the surface of the Earth.


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Here's video documentary from the History Channel http://tinyurl.com/zygyr It covers some interesting points on USO.


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