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tjgorilla
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:35 pm
A HAUNTED playground swing that rocks backwards and forwards on its own for days has scientists baffled.
video and rest of article
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article385529.ece
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TheChallenge
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:41 pm
I guessed magnetic friction between the two chairs.
Hey, i'm not a scientist.
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Highempress
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:59 pm
That's totally weird. I've never seen anything like that. The way it seems to pick up speed by itself is the scariest. At first I thought, this is just a video that someone's edited. But if that were the case, why would all the people be standing around in the park staring at the swing? Also, would an article appear in the paper, and would experts really have been called? What is going on?
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Prophmaji
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:10 am
I suspect it is child from the immediate area that died in an unexpected manner. That child needs release. Perhaps they will leave on their own, they sometimes do.
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OddThings
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:03 pm
Strange if true, certainly. However, the video on the site doesn't do the case justice, if so. They say in the article that only one moves, while the ones around it remain still. They also say that they've ruled out wind. But, in the video, all three move, and it seems like you can see wind blowing by looking at people's clothes and the trees in the background.
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Lonecat
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:17 pm
Interesting, I have seen this video on spanish television on quite a few occasions and it was given big coverage on the channel CUATRO programme "Cuarto Milιnio" which is a very sensible programme devoted to unsolved mysteries and the paranormal and which is shown every Sunday night. Their verdict is also "Case unsolved". I have wondered whether the effect could be created by magnets buried under the swings. The iron chains of the swings could be affected by remote control of magnets. One could use two powerful magnets, one repel and one to attract. I would like to see the ground excavated under the swings. Does anyone know if this effect continues?
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Soulfly
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:27 pm
I did view the entire video and it does seem like the center swing, is moving on its own... though I cannot rule out a natural explanation for this, it IS interesting ....b
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Lonecat
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:07 pm
When I watched this film on TV and a panel of experts was discussing the phenomenon, they kept repeating snatches from the video. This gave me the opportunity to focus on different parts of the film each time. I noticed that the top, cross bar of the set of swings was mostly off screen which caused me to think that maybe there was someone perched on the cross bar moving the swing. However, I took care to axamine the shadows of the swings frame and saw no shadow, say, of a man up there making the swing work. Also the fake would have meant that onlookers in the back-ground would have HAD to be in the picture as it were in order that should react as being astonished and or puzzled. The problem with this video, or at least one of the problems, is that there appear to be no further recordings on film other than the one shown. If this phenomenon were so mind boggling, then the people who filmed it would have had to film it more than once, if only to prove its athenticity. Also the film is not made in one master-shot without "cuts to". Anything could have happened in between takes. I, too, regard it as "case unsolved" for lack of follow-up. However, it would not surprise me either way: whether it was a fake or genuine. Strange things DO happen in this world.
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nebula
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:50 pm
Lonecat wrote:I have wondered whether the effect could be created by magnets buried under the swings. The iron chains of the swings could be affected by remote control of magnets. One could use two powerful magnets, one repel and one to attract. I would like to see the ground excavated under the swings.
Why would anyone go to that much trouble of burying magnets underneath the swings and set up a remote control to make them move back and forth?  And wouldn't a magnet be able to tell you if there were magnets buried underneath? Excavation might not be necessary.
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Lonecat
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:11 am
You are quite right, Nebula but I was just trying to dismiss any other explanation before thinking of the "paranormal". Then (to quote the well-known phrase) when all possible explanations have been been considered and rejected then the impossble must be the answer. I'm not sure of the exact wording of that phrase but it comes from a Sherlock Holmes book I believe. I'll check on it. Must get things right
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nebula
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:53 pm
Ah, I see, Lonecat.
I also just spotted an error in my post, although it still makes sense in spite of it. I meant to say "wouldn't a compass be able to tell you if there were magnets buried underneath," but it still works the way I said it. I think.
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Lonecat
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:31 am
Yes, you are right again Nebula. Come to that woulldn't any old piece of iron do? By the way, is this swing still swinging? If it is, I think it is time somebody came to some sort of conclusion about the phenomenon.
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darknight
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:17 pm
hi all. i've thought of a somthing that might help.
what if theres a underground stream and the swings have some sort of electrical (static) charge in them that is makeing them move, as the artical says they stop dead after 10 days, maybe the stream turns in to a trickle now and then and there is not enough energy at this time.
if the seats are plastic they can acumalate a static charge just like metel can.
just for an example, if you get a glass of water and rub a fine needle on cloth then place the needle in the glass of water it should give you a northely direction like a compass (not sure how this works).
this could be a possible reason, along shot but anythings possible in this world.
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tjgorilla
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:49 pm
Here is another different video of the same swing
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHqCm0wNi4
Here is a video trying to explain why the swing swings
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=l54W2gM-gYM
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Lancelot
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:00 pm
Observations:
Not sure what causes the swinging but if there were say a string or something similar then it should be visable when the camera pans around the swings.
The guy who stops the swing shows no natural fear and doesnt seem to be worried about the occult in a country that is supposedly religious.
If it were a 'ghost' then wouldnt the dog who casually strolls through be worried or interested ?
gonna go watch the explanation now.
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