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Post Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:52 am

Do walls and mortar from houses or buildings hold memories? Especially bad and traumatic ones that will project itself thus we see 'ghost'?

I'm well aware that a violent death leaves a mark, but wondered about bricks and mortar, if it does happen, why does it happen after so long of no incident? For example, previous owners have not seen the ghost or 'replays' of what happened, for others they do. Has it all got to do with the sensitivity a person has in order to be able to see the projected history?

I'm curious, I have 'seen' presences or felt it a lot of times in my mother's house, but never from bricks and mortar.

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:01 pm

Yes they do your not just seeing things. At my old house the walls actually held audio from past tenants. We heard a man beating his wife all the time and didn't know where it was coming from. Until we listened to the walls. Houses have their memories and can keep secrets left behind.

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What about furniture? What about furniture that isn't even there anymore? In my townhome, one afternoon, I heard dresser drawers being opened. I looked over at my husband's dresser because that's where the noise came from, but I knew that it wasn't his dresser because his drawers stick and squeak. This drawer sounded like it opened eaisly, and then I could hear the handles grasps bouncing off the wood, like a reverb. My husband's dresser though, has no handles, the handles are carved into the wood. I actually turned around and stared at the sound, one drawer opening and then another. There was nothing to explain it, and not the neighbors either as they were away for the weekend. I've never heard it since, even though I have heard the neighbor's dresser drawers once since then and it was nothing like the one from the corner of the room. The noise, as I listened, was absolutelty, clearly, there, as if i were opening the drawers myself. In that same corner of the room, I've also been awoken by a phone ringing which was not our phone, nor the neigbor's phone. I have no idea what the source for either experience was. I wasn't afraid of the drawer sound, but I was freakd about the phone as it woke me in the middle of the night. Our house is less than twenty years old, and that I know of, there's no unusual history here.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:17 am

A combination of two-three things. Ok. maybe four. Like the Spanish Inquisition, I may have to come back in again.

some factors:

-Time (astrological) based energy patterns, both local energies and the persons involved, being highlighted. Full moons or specific moon phases. Specific weather patterns and weather types also play a part.

-a 'nexus' point or energy well, vortex, etc. Ley lines, etc. Peak energy area. (see above point for a possible 'increase' of the natural high energies, due to such)

-The building having a history, ie, ghosts, spirits who simply do not know they are dead. Time is different in that realm.

-The person in the house experiencing the 'event' is a sensitive.

- combination of some or all of the above.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:51 am

From what I can gather, there is no Leylines to effect the house the way it has/had. If the moon phrase plays a part, then surely the event that is replayed would happen monthly? Puzzled

The way I'm thinking is that maybe something happened at that time a 'year ago' hence why it had happened at that time, but not at any other time. I just happened to be at the right place at the right time? Would that make sense?

And how can bricks and mortar hold memories the way it has? As said, I never had experienced that kind of 'haunting' before, always a presence or a being, but never the replay. It is all new to me, so pardon me for asking if it is a common knowledge among ghost hunters and what nots.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:20 pm

Many events 'echo' in OUR idea of time, but in the realm if the replay of the event (a purgatory like space that these things can sometimes be in)it is different...so... the event may be repeating itself via endless variation due to 'stuck spirits'. Just like people getting the same issue put in front of them over and over again..to learn to finally deal with it...they suffer the same. So ours might be variations on a theme with runs through our lives, they have to work out the issue fully. Repetitively.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:28 pm

I think this kind of thing makes sense, there are some psychics that can get information about people by holding an object. There must be some truth to it.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:43 pm

I believe that not only can buildings and objects hold memories, but land itself too. I've heard many stories of that. Even people tearing down a house and rebuilding it on the same land and having the same haunting.

Maybe certain spots, vortices, or tragedies makes this possible. Also certain people can draw things to them.
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:59 pm

Interesting topic.

Some time ago while in a deep trance I was guided* to the back of the house and almost pushed against the back door. The reaction of my energy field to the door was curious - as if the door itself was attracting me for some reason. Closer inspection of the door revealed some chipped paint and a layer of what appeared to be news paper under the paint - old newspaper, perhaps from the days when the house was built.

Having not read this thread at the time, my initial reaction was not to assume the wood causing the attraction, but instead the symbols and information inplanted in the newspaper.

How the psyche could pick these things up may be note for further study...


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:28 pm

Interesting thread, it's called the "stone tape" theory, ie that events somehow are recorded in the surrounding masonry or whatever. I'm not sure how valid it is, given that some hauntings take place in the open. I'm inclined to think that it must be the "space" remains the same but the time alters. Physics doesn't have a problem with the particles existing in different times, maybe that is what is taking place, that some part of the event is left behind and can be sensed by those sensitive to that?
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I think this kind of thing makes sense, there are some psychics that can get information about people by holding an object. There must be some truth to it.


Thats psychometry, how about if a person doesn't hold an object, but just by being present at a particular place, they can access the information? Puzzled


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:44 am

Blankets, curtains and sheets are known to project images of shapes and even keep a memory or seem to project images and past sounds.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:46 am

Different opinions, reasons and ideas, it's pretty exciting.

Re the stone tape theory, maybe like Enaid said, an open space may have had a building on it before it was torn down, many archaeologist digs around are finding previous buildings under the land that few were aware of before. (I'm hooked on Time Team!) So with bricks and mortar under the land, or even scraps of plaster/screws/nails, it can still project replays out on top?

Prophmaji, interesting notion, a suicide hotspot has some kind of chill around the area, or so I have been told, maybe trapped spirits lurk there, or the ground beneath absorbs the negative energy of the suicider prior to the leap of death?

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:12 am

Most say crystals are and can be charged, many times with memories and even large amount of memory.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:51 pm

Yup, we run across this sort of thing on a fairly regular basis in our line of work. Objects certainly CAN adn DO retain energies of other times / place / peopel. Similalrly, the land can hold onto very old stuff indeed and continually affect the present occupants.


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:19 pm

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What about furniture? What about furniture that isn't even there anymore? In my townhome, one afternoon, I heard dresser drawers being opened. I looked over at my husband's dresser because that's where the noise came from, but I knew that it wasn't his dresser because his drawers stick and squeak. This drawer sounded like it opened eaisly, and then I could hear the handles grasps bouncing off the wood, like a reverb. My husband's dresser though, has no handles, the handles are carved into the wood. I actually turned around and stared at the sound, one drawer opening and then another. There was nothing to explain it, and not the neighbors either as they were away for the weekend. I've never heard it since, even though I have heard the neighbor's dresser drawers once since then and it was nothing like the one from the corner of the room. The noise, as I listened, was absolutelty, clearly, there, as if i were opening the drawers myself. In that same corner of the room, I've also been awoken by a phone ringing which was not our phone, nor the neigbor's phone. I have no idea what the source for either experience was. I wasn't afraid of the drawer sound, but I was freakd about the phone as it woke me in the middle of the night. Our house is less than twenty years old, and that I know of, there's no unusual history here.


We had similar experiences in our previous home. Both my son and I , and even the neighbours have heard drawers opening , cupboards banging etc. , one time the neighbours were going to call the police as they were convinced I was being burgled, but unsure if my son or daughter were staying over and were being noisy at 3am

One time mid morning there was lots of clattering in the kitchen , my daughter thought it was me , and vice versa... when we went into the kitchen the dresser door was open and the pots disrupted , the dresser was second hand... though not that old.

The house however , was built in the 1930's... Puzzled


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Post Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:03 am

I have had a weird experience..

I was staying a some ones house awhile ago, and there was a mat in the bedroom where I slept. I didn't want to step on it, for some reason i found myself stepping around it all the time.

There was no other strange things, nothing.

It wasn't until a couple of weeks later that I found out that my friends father had shot himself in the basement below my room. And when I moved the rug out of the way you could see the bullet hole in the floor.


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