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From Rense.com

With the continual appearance of these 'ufo drones' in the news, it is time, again, to try to balance things out with the following examples of how easy it is to create faked images... and video footage of them.

In the following links, the poster named 'saladfingers' created these images to show the drone shots were not only easily-accomplished as stills, but he then put them in motion.

He not only rebuilt the drone in a 3D/CGI program, which alone is an accomplishment, but matched the lighting conditions --- something fairly automated with higher end 3D/CGI animation programs (ie, the Hati UFOs, which were very impressive -- only we came to find out even the palm trees and scenery were cgi, too!)

Here are three links which tell the story clearly...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XIfr12XhrZE

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XJiCxWUlg ... re=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rBEYc5OUU ... re=related

For More On CGI Fakery, Go Here

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Hi Paul :) if your wondering why there hasn't been many posts to this thread it's because it's been talked about till the cows came home.

http://tinyurl.com/23jfg8

Was also a sore subject that festered to a boil. ;)

Now this thing is back in the news like it's something new. :roll: I don't know why main stream media would want to bring this back, but I would imagine it's some kind of conspiracy, but that's just me. :D Man are they behind! :roll:



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Thats ok, I haven't finished reading all threads yet, to know what has, or hasn't been covered.

If any thing, I was more interested in the final link, if only from the standpoint of just how good these manipulations are, and what the possible ramifications of similar methods might be in some other "real-world" application.

I should have spelled that out, as a followup but forgot to get back to it, until I saw this threads' title on the rollover screen on the home page.

Thanks for the heads-up tho'!


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Oh it's amazing what they can do for sure. Of course more amazing to me 'cause I have no clue how it's done. lol

And now with the holographics they can do, between CGI and that I guess anything's possible. :hide:



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I still think these "aliens" are evolved humans


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I still think these "aliens" are evolved humans


Why? :-?



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Because the human capability can get pretty crazy too


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I still think these "aliens" are evolved humans


My goodness, that line gave me a laugh on so many different levels!

Of course, the first thing that came to mind was a series of questions. Only a couple seem like they could stand answering.

Which aliens are you referring to when you say these aliens?

Exactly what is it you mean by evolved humans?

Thanks for the chuckle, Olembe

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Um, I don't think he'll be able to answer those questions Dolphin. They're much more complicated than "why?". Which he couldn't answer either. :lol:



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I think on a philosophical level, so I can get the answers quicker.
So things can make sense first then I go into details from there.
Maybe everyone wasn't talking about "actual" aliens. But I have fearlessness in the words I speak so i can stretch the boundaries.
Lets just say I'm random.

I just got on this forum, so I'm basically coming from nowhere. I only assume things so someone can say its wrong and I can acquire the true answer. fixing my mistakes to perfection.

And evolved humans, I can see a bunch right here, but be fearless with it so you can fix your imperfect picture to the perfect picture and know the reality of everything. :mrgreen:
call me ignorant I like it
but I'm truly a positive person and am down to learn


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We were just messin' around with you Olembe. Being such short posts I didn't think you'd be back, that happens sometimes. Thought you were messin' with us!

Some people do think ET's are humans from the past. I certainly do not know. But do know there are more than one type of ET, so it's next to impossible for them all to be evolved humans imho.

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And evolved humans, I can see a bunch right here, but be fearless with it so you can fix your imperfect picture to the perfect picture and know the reality of everything.


That perfect picture won't happen in our life time, though we are hard at work trying to find it. ;) All we CAN do is try to learn. :)


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I asked what you meant by "evolved humans" because there are as many different definitions for terms like that as there are folks to use the terms. I like to be on the same page as the poster if I am going to engage.

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Cool, I like getting on the same page.
evolved as in, having a higher awareness of the world around you.
And I think the perfect picture will never be found too. They look for more ways to attain god's power, but its infinite right? All we can do is study god's will in order to follow it right?


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Hi Olembe.

I see you are thinking in the line of humans..moving up a notch in life... advancing to the species that we are calling aliens.

I do very much agree that we are intended to advance..as a species...but..we have been kept from attaining ANY higher level of consciousness. We are being held back as a species, due to the way we have all been brainwashed.

We live to fill our lives with needless material objects...and we are used to help instill the greed that fuels our world as human here.
We have been lead away from where we are to be...and ..it will take an impossible feat to change that so we can attain the levels we need...during our time left here.

I cannot agree that these ETs that come here are us....

Let's not beat around the bush...

We hear all sorts of things on different aliens...and wouldn't it be truly wonderful if we did have such diversity coming to our little planet?..BUT..the facts seem to be..the most active if not the only species that is truly having an effect on the people...and coming here very frequently, are the Greys.
So...I am using the Greys as my own base line...as..I have had personal experiences with them in my life.
What I know..is they are emotionless...and have no feelings as we do...There is no love..or compassion...there is also no hate or anger...They are..beings that are nothing like us at all...and...if we ever were to turn into them...I would hope our species is wiped out long before that. They are not us at all...this is not from looking at them that I can tell you this as fact...It is from having them inside my mind..while on board with them...

They make no sense at all..they do not think like us or act ..or feel....like we do...and we will never ever advance to such a species..as that.

The ugliness that they truly bring....It is not nice....It is rather sickening...

We can look at other mammals...and...we can see the beings they are..we know they have feelings...and feel joy and love...and..happiness..we can sense it too..showing we are not the only with feelings..
BUT the most active and possibly the ONLY species that are coming here (Greys) are not capable of any of that...and other then being by-pedal, they have nothing at all in common with us.

ET can make anyones worse nightmare...far more welcoming ...then what they bring. :-?



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Many people are moving out of it. But I see what your talking about, Greys, the super enlightened ones. I don't know much about the Greys but I know humans can become very powerful with their psychic abilities. Doesn't mean they have to lose their emotions.
But give me a clear description of these Greys so I can know what you are referring to.
Greys show no emotion because they are disconnected from society, I understand: But that's only if they ultimately give up, right?

Unless you're talking about something else.


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but I know humans can become very powerful with their psychic abilities. Doesn't mean they have to lose their emotions.


Now that was deep. :)

Greys are... unemotional because they are of hive mentality. If you need a description look them up on google. They have nothing to do with 'our' society :-? (well they do! but...)

Are you trying to get at something? They are not 'super enlightened. They just are. :-?

I'm just not understanding this. :-? or are you just yanking chains? :?



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Well I've found that the brainwash is a Necromantic spell: spiritual protection from wisdom, as we slowly warm up to the rest of society (You must learn wisdom first, then build on to it from there: The American school system tells you their way of knowing what they know, so you never know if it's rooted from the true source: the cosmic truth and nature therefore their thoughts are brainwashing). Greys only seem unemotional because they are born or have developed an incredibly deep communication with each other. But the hive mentality is already in us, simply a common understanding. Same philosophy why Castaneda didn't understand Don Juan. Except for Don Juan had the will to keep his communicating connection to the rest of society, instead of losing it to nature.

I'm always yanking chains to free up the subject, that perfect picture idea.

The Perfect Picture:
We may not know every single detail past the quark.
But we can be aware that god is infinite. And study god's will, trying to understand the complex of our environment, to better heal us and keep us on the same page.
They only dig deeper to see truly how powerful god can get; and try to attain that power (which I think is the wrong way to go, that is why I believe the path of knowledge is the path of power, and wisdom, the awareness of that power).


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That is why the moon reflects the sun, right?


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Greys only seem unemotional because they are born or have developed an incredibly deep communication with each other. But the hive mentality is already in us, simply a common understanding.


SO can you tell me how you know that Greys are.. as you state?

I know you have never been visited..or I would not see you as almost praising them.

I just want to say...from..seeing..and being with them, I know that very few actually understand the true meaning to alien....unless they have been taken..or had direct physical contact.

I have tried to explain them (Greys) in many posts...and..frankly I am tired..of no one really listening..
I will say that..you are not even close to the truth about them...but..be patient...the truth will be coming out...although..you may have more pressing issues to face, once they make themselves known...



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I am listening. But if they don't hurt you then I don't know what you're afraid of.
But I am looking forward, something new has to come sometime.
You really aren't explaining much about them unless you were dreaming with them.
All you said is that they were inside your head, did they come to you in a trip. Are they forcing you to withhold their identity?
They may be super 'weird' to you but I bet there are equally as weird people who can relate with them.
Unless they are the androids of these Anunnaki gods. If that is so they have nothing but wisdom to reveal to us. There is a mystery behind this brainwash and 2012, like they are preparing us to hate.

But describe their cold nastiness so I can dislike with you.


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Olembe, there is a way to check Entity's posts on this site. If you do not know how to do that, please ask for help. Then check his past posts where he has described things to do with Grays. There are other folks who have contributed their experiences also.

I myself do not bother to talk to anyone at this late time in my life who has not had experience with that which cannot be explained on human terms. I guess I stopped talking much, except with a select few, when I was about 12 years old I finally understood that nobody that I knew had the experiences to understand what I had been through since I was around 2 years old.

I do not regret that everyone has not suffered at the hands of the unexplained. What I regret is that it seems to give those folks the permission to believe those with experience are wrong in their views. There are times when I wish for them to get actual experience instead of hounding those with the experience.

The best I can think of right now is to imagine being in the jaws of a mountain lion trying to talk it into letting you go so you could get back to your video games. How do you think that would work? Sometimes there is not understanding or communication between species. Intelligence nor imagination does not make that communication happen because it is just not possible.

I do wish you the best in your searching, Olembe.

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And at that I lay trust in your experiences.
I thought you meant Grays were evolved humans. I believe they another being completely now so I am going to stay guard for if i encounter them.


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Olembe, might I ask where you're from? It doesn't show on your profile.

You started out by saying you think greys are evolved humans, now... well your not making alot of sense. I know your young, but we aren't here to play games. If games are what you're after, please, we are not interested.

This is my first... nice warning. ;)



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ok, I won't post anymore if you feel that way.


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I don't 'feel' anyway. It was just brought to my attention that you were being well....hard to put into words, but a bit relentless? on entity. Or should I say, not understanding his position and bringing your own strange ideas as to how he thinks and what he knows. Which imho wasn't the way to go about it.

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:hugz: Thanks Kira...and Dolphin..

I think I had pretty much said all I was going to on the matter...with Olembe.

I can see now that there are many people of this world that would rather.. embellish and make up their own theories ...rather than listen to the ones..that have actually been taken.

I now understand..how Thelmadonna feels about sharing from encounters...

It is frustrating..and...so many people try to make it into something else...and try to make you ..unbelieveable..or sound like you are all f*cked up and dont know what you are are talking about..

As I go further into this...abyss.. I see there are many that do not want the truth to be revealed..and many..that seem...almost scared...when the truth is talked about.

The only other thing I really can say....is..

There are millions that know the truth..and maybe someday they will actually be heard...and this species(human)..may actually learn something...That is if they decide to pay attention to what has come out from all these encounters that have taken place on this planet...since..mankind's existence began here on earth.

what I know..is we will have to face it...I think the sooner we accept...the better off we will be in the near future. ;)



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well, I've been having troubles everywhere with the number of assumptions people make.
I am not taking your words lightly, your explanation of the Grays made me question a lot of things in my very own existence. I just have the uncanny urge to open up the subject that many find unattractive.
I just don't want anyone to think I am making fun of them because I have too seen the very magical side of reality. I make up my own theories around all the other theories so the theory can get even deeper, not saying that it's a theory, I have faith that your experiences were as real as riding your first bike. :pray:
I've been seriously looking for spirits and beings of the unknown.
I had my first possession a while ago like I've mentioned, through the drum.


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Hi Olembe

I am curious of what you write but to put things in perspective in my head would you mind if I asked your age? If you do mind then please just carry on.



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Psst...a quote from one of Olembe's previous posts person1..

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hello I'm a young 17 year-old


Hope that helps... :)



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