If the info. in this video is correct, then the being that visited my back yard was definitely a type of 'grey'.

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=UWR6WE4z20g&feature=related

Some of them look very similar. The one I SAW, had a very short mouth in width, I'd guess an inch across. Not near as wide as a humans. The chin was very pointed, the eyes sloped upward.....
black in color................ a pale white skin. It may have been wearing a tight fitting suit similar in color to it's skin, possibly silvery... saw a slight shine at the chest area as it turned away, that's why I say possibly wearing a suit, silvery.

I suggest we begin to wrap our minds around this 'fact' for all of the skeptics out there.............. and, do not fear the unkown, just get familiar with it.

I also hope that the info. presented in this video is true when they say (at least the type I saw) is benevolent. That takes a load off of my mind, so thanks Agent Joanna Dark. I hope you are right!

I am not just whistling Dixie here. I didn't come to this forum to learn how to spell..... ......... I came here to get the word out about what I witnessed in my back yard. Also, to try to learn the truth about 'them'. Much of the time I try not to think about it....... but when they show up unannounced in your domain (hence, this might trigger FEAR in most of us)........ a person will want to know what's going on. That's why I'm here.

Thanks for letting me share that.

cruiser

I find it interesting he said they don't call them 'greys' in the military, but did not go on to say WHAT they call them.

That's what we're all doing cruiser, searching not easy when what your searching has been so heavily hidden. I'd still like to know why.

If we are made in Gods image, which in turn is an ET modification, then the traits of greed and lieing run heavy through the universe. Not a good thought. But good runs deep too, so maybe it's always going to be good versus evil, for eternity? Hope not, hope it's just this dimension.

Hell I don't know, I'm so tired of wondering.


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I just got finished watching the Philip Schneider youtube vids.....and I'll be honest, all of this scares the hell out of me.

My guess is, and he said it, that the two benevolent types had to leave earth for reasons back home....... so that leaves us here to deal w/the remaining malevolent types. Possibly the type that signed a deal 'greata'? w/Eisenhower. Types that may have been below ground for longer than we've been around. I don't know...... but the whole NWO, prison camps/bases underground.......agenda scares the crap out of me. Now I'm not familiar w/what he mentioned 'boot camp' here in Cheyenne is......... unless it's underground somewhere? For the most part, everything seems normal on base that I can tell.
The being did not hurt us. Unless it wanted the fear adrenoline shot I'm sure I gave off. OR, it didn't feel like tangling w/dogs.
Phil said one about burned a hole in his chest, lost his fingers and toenails charred his leg.......... so they are capable of dealing w/us if they want to.
When it gets to be too much I just tell myself that none of this is real. Some things I'd rather not know about. Some things I'd rather my kids not know about. People will lose their minds over this........... So, will it come to fruition in our lifetime?
Sure is looking that way. Good versus Evil? There's no other option. We can all pray for goodness sake. It might just help. Have faith kids, I do.

cruiser

Ah Phil Schneider, welcome to the pit cruiser. I agree with you, scary as all get out. I don't even bother telling people I talk to about it, unless they've heard about it already and ask. I wouldn't dare tell my family.

Years ago, after reading and watching Phil, driving on the roads around here was a totally different experience. Looking at all the mountains around and knowing underground was this emmense 'other' life going on. Well, it is too much.

When I saw this mile wide, or more, craft landing behind the mountains. Reading what he had to say later, there's no way he's not telling the truth. This craft was huge! The only way it could land where it was going is for the mountain to open up. It's mind boggling and that was in '94. Also met and worked with a guy that worked in Frenchman's mountain. He said it was huge under there and no one knows it's there. We just sit here while all this is going on. Thank goodness for the internet. A little knowledge is better then no knowledge at all.


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I agree, it's a way for this knowledge to get into the hands of the 'right people' hopefully. Let's hear it for the internet.
The trick is weeding out the disinfo. from the real info. I agree that Phil is telling the truth....... seems so. The thought did cross my mind, well did he leave the military disgruntled so he's starting this disinfo. campaign? Just to stir up trouble for the gov. and create hysteria amongst the public. Nope..... the missing fingers, the physical articles 'evidence' he has, those strange crystals, his experiences........... you don't walk away from your final paycheck unless it's something BIG............ and this is BIG. Several attempts on his life........ and now gone? Yup, sure looks like he was telling the truth.

We have friends stationed there at Nellis....... medical field. I don't think they could handle knowing anything like this.

I'm picturing that mountain opening up. I might be tempted to pick up and move elsewhere.

cruiser

I've seen Phil's videos as well. Nasty stuff, on the best of days. And yes, it's tough to look at that... and then go walk a stable walk. The story I'm seemingly getting, is that there is a war of sorts going on.

On multiple levels. Multidimensional levels.

Apparently, the earth is being used as a training ground for 'the light', in the form of reincarnation for advancing and learning souls. Purgatory is apparently a nearby, smaller dimensional bubble, where issues related to the monkey cortex (emotions of complex and controlling strength) get worked out and where dreams also take place. Formless and dimensionless, to the 3-d reality world.

Apparently, there are some beings, ones of low repute and lower energies, who can master dimensional travel of their 'vehicles' and 'bodies', with respects to transfer from one 'place' (3-d reality) and the next. Reptilians, greys, etc. Soulless, or weak, nasty, negative souls.

The war appears to be revolving around the ruination of the 'light' forces training ground for advancing souls, the earth.

The earth is apparently nearly unique with respects to it's capacity to hold a large number of souls at one time.

Apparently, the souls are supposed to remain ignorant of the reality of their own multidimensionality and true self while in physical 3-d form, so the lessons they learn are as real as possible..so when they return, they have true understandings, their collective experiences, in the individual sense, are properly tempered by 'good' behavior toward all. The differing lives advance them fast here, so the training ground of earth is highly valued.

The monatomics in the soil and the monatomics in the human nervous system are part and parcel of the dimensional doorway.

The game between these forces who must, by the very nature of the game, in order for it to work..must maintain ignorance in humans is supposedly reaching one of it's cyclic and repeated climaxes. This is merely the current climax.

The forces of negativity are supposedly largely tied to this 3-d reality, and are limited by it, but also eat or consume negative energy, where the light forces thrive on..knowledge and the light.

As the current game cycle comes to a close, the forces of the light force, ultimate knowledge, and togetherness..finally have to show their hand, by showing that the truth of multi-dimensionality exists..but they still want as many 'humans' (learning souls) to do their darnedest to learn truth from within their own ignorant state, thus as many students (whom do not ever die!!) will 'pass' as possible. Sirians, Pleiadians etc. that is what WE humans, are.

Reptilians are supposedly not as 'high up' in their learning and many to most, still feed off of and live in the negative energy areas of multi-dimensionality. Some are 'white light' Sirians, some are bad dudes.

Some of the souls who occupy the near dark realm of purgatory and 'hell' are there to eat and consume the souls or take and use the energy there for purposes of aiding the war, etc. Gather the broken souls into a group and squeeze, control. Thus the thousand eyed beasts, the essence of hell, etc. Thought becomes reality there. Strength of mind becomes strength of all, in that realm. The biggest cranium, with least fearful mind ---wins!!

In essence, we have this current 'end game' in a cycle of multidimensional wars being played out, right now.

The Greys, Reptiles, Dracos, etc, use the monatomic soils, etc, for multidimensional existence, for longevity and near immortality,and for travel in the 'stargate' type essence (power, electricity, gravity control, matter control, etc).

The true multi-dimensionals, the Pleiadians, the Sirians, etc, utilizing the earth as a training ground, have great difficulty in dealing with transferring energy across/through the 'density' of 3-d matter.

Thus the baddies hiding under ground. And the mining or bases all in areas where their are VERY high concentrations of Monatomics in the soils. The reptilian feeding off of the negative energies, the eating of pregnant women for the intense high of the fear combined with food and monatomics in the fetus and placenta..and the small soul inside..etc. All of that bizarre seeming stuff.

The Pleiadians and the Sirians have MANY, MANY more training grounds than this one..the Earth. But as stated, it is considered to be one of, if not, the finest. The monatomics on the soils and in the nervous systems of the physical creatures..which allow for soul placement and communication...and the true 'hardness' of the lessons learned, and the 'short' lifespans and high risk lives, with intense emotionally based searing lessons learned in each life, make it a fabulous place to be, for a given learning soul. One that is attempting to 'go clear' in order to ascent and join with the grand group mind of 'the light'. The absolute height of strapping a metaphysical rocket to your butt...and surfing your way to nirvana, for 'souls'.

As the end game nears, the best way for the forces of negativity to foil the use of the Earth by the forces of light..is to keep the 'learning souls' ignorant of their true reality..and so they are filled with fear and when they die..violently..they go to that 'purgatory space' for harvesting by the negative forces. At this point, the forces of light, need to try and finally give up the lesson format, and FINALLY go a war footing where the soul in training has to become aware of their true multi-dimensionally, so that the portion of their true FULL dimensional self that is on earth, which is only a small part of their larger selves....so that part is not paired off and lost in purgatory, like an arm or leg that is lost (but will grow back, over time,and lives lived)..and is harvested by the baddies.

The light, for example..may have intruded on the game of 'slave' or 'worker' creation by the reptilians, and used the vessels they created for soul inclusion. Good way to PO a large group of physically based multidimensional creatures.

Or..the opposite may be true..where Reptilians and the like insert themselves into the 'remote controlled' dream'ish game of soul surfing by the Sirians and Pleidians..and attempt to take it over.

So there you have it. Make what you will of it.

I agree there is a war going on, on many levels.

So looking at the big picture for us humans, how can our gov. even begin to bring this up for the rest of us? They can't as I see it. We can however........encourage the masses of humans to gather in churches all over the world, and pray to and for (a positive light) in the lives of ourselves and our loved ones. I like it.
Meanwhile, trying to do their level best to deal w/all of these level wars. And, toss in that some in the know might cross over to the baddy side, and work to use this knowledge against the unknowing public.

Back to Phil S. If a man has left his lifes work, is aware that folks are attempting to take his life......in what he knew to be the final throws of his humanity in this earth.......... he goes on a speaking circuit to get the messege out, share what he knows w/the rest of us, as he knew his time was short.

Make any sense? Anyway, that's what I'm getting.

Yes, in the meantime, as I have so little to work with, I'm putting Phil in the 'possibly not full of it' camp, until I have more to go on.

The problem, for the moment, for me..is that the more recent version of the nightmare that Phil addresses, is the one brought up and fleshed out by 'antigrey' in his thread and book hawking diatribe.

Now, a given person's background and background information is going to make them come to conclusions that may be based on more of the truth than I know, or it can be based on less of the truth than I know..and be filled with bits of framework that they had to create....in order for it to work for them within the scope of what kinds of realities that are acceptable to their psychology and origins. Perhaps the person may give me more wooden sticks and add strength to my framework, perhaps me to theirs.

Antigrey, for example is definitely on the same page as Phil in many respects, if not nearly all pages..but both stories have zilch to do with the truths that I know, internally (about multi-dimensionality, existence, time, nature, spirituality, etc). This is alarming, as to me, the situations are interconnected. Basically, the inter-dimensional point that I tend to live in, has no basis of existence in either of their stories. I'd say that either of them might think I'm totally full of crap, due to their knowledge and awareness considerations.

Do any of us have hidden agendas..or are we just good folk? Ignorance can kill and or misdirect just as easily psychosis or hidden intent/agendas.

Now, does Phil or Antigrey have a ulterior motive, a hidden agenda, where they are driven by others to do these things, these stories, or are these things real in their minds? Or does their truths or conclusions come from the fact that they know nothing of the things I know, and thus their truths are deeply colored..and shortsighted to the true depths of reasons, origins and agendas?

I have to remember and utilize the context of their personal levels of awareness (or agenda) in attempting to form an opinion of what they present, and how it fits into the framework.

This is why I was so hard on antigrey in his thread. It should not get to a point that the essence of what Thoth was originally indicating, is lost in the message to the 'general public' or 'great unwashed masses'.

Human nature is capable of creating the condition of 'other' in the mind, and this can be catapulted to an organization of 'other' into 'aliens'. Xenophobia, or bad aliens eating babies and zapping us all.

Antigrey may be entirely honest in his dealings as may be Phil, or either or both may have an agenda tied to these truths, or the whole thing in both cases may entirely be made of agenda.

For example, inter-dimensional portals and time considerations,and the idea of self creation and multi dimensionality..all allow, with varying degrees of plausibility, for:

Aliens attacking us multi-dimensionally

Aliens attacking us in linear time and zero multi-dimensional aspects.

Aliens being involved with others in multi-dimensional ways- multiple 'war fronts'

Aliens being entire fabrications and creations of the human mind via 'tulpas' and golem'.

Time dilation and transfer issues across multidimensional barriers, with respects to dimensional and time travel, making aliens be more prominent in 'current' time as we near the point where real contact occurs'.

Other considerations and multiple variations of the above may occur.

Finding the true depth of it is difficult, at best.

There is no arriving at one solemn truth, as some prophetic minded folks like to ascertain and cry about. "I am the holder of multi-dimensional truth, and here it is!!" That almost never works, and if it does, in only tiny bits of the framework, is my experience.

Essentially, the kind of person who tends to need labels and specifics that are unalterable and stable..attached to the things they attempt to analyze, really is not going to be finding much truth in these areas of research and self-illumination. Rather, due to the fluidity of understanding as layers are peeled back and data is sifted through, attempts at creating stable facts, can ultimately lead to total ruination, in the personal psychology sense.

There is no stable ground, here.

Only continuously unfolding illumination that is almost, or seemingly subject to very constant change itself.

Very enlightening Prophmaji, I do my best to try and follow your contribution to the threads. But I'll admit, I'm not sure I always get it. I appreciate the effort you make though and I hope someone else understands it better than I do. Back to Phil, I don't get that he was on some kind of disinfo. campaign..... and I tend to think there are both good/bad alien life forms visiting Earth.


I'm wondering where the 'other's' are......... that have had similar experience w/a grey or alien life form. I know others on this forum have shared experiences. But I read somewhere that there has to be a few million of us that have had sightings or experiences. Just seems to me there would be more folks chiming in w/their experiences. Maybe there is a private group where folks feel more secure that I'm unaware of.

cruiser

I could share with you about greys or my knowledge of them, but I have never read Phil Schneiders' stuff or Antigreys' come to that. I would say in daylight they are not exactly grey but a real light shade of sage green,perhaps a chameleon effect with it being daytime and being on grass.
I would say that their mouths are small about the circumference of a small sardine.
I hear folks saying a hive mind mentality, dont know that this is always true, perhaps only in parts when on a mission, when instructions are being given.Like command control giving orders and being subserviant they follow orders obediantely without question. No emotions involved. Pretty much like our soldiers nowadays without the brain implant.Off duty I reckon they can have a depth of emotion, even if it is just curiosity.Perhaps the reason the grey was in your backyard, or maybe it was on a mission? I dont have the answer to that one, for what its worth I think if it was on a mission, your dogs, yourself wouldnt have known anything about it, unless they wanted you to know.

If you fear for them returning they've got you! You must be strong! If your dogs sleep outside at night I would keep your ears open for an electric buzz in the atmoshere, after a bit when you think its gone, listen for your dogs crying,the high screaming pitch beyond our hearing range is like a nightmare pain in the dogs ears,they are howling with pain, not guarding your property from intruders.A different bark.You can see the fear in their eyes afterwards.Sorry if I upset anyone.

Also if there is secret club let me know!

Hi, about two and a half years ago I joined the bot. It was the starseed thing that brought me in, curiosity. I was looking for et info and had never been in a forum and, bot is the only one I am a member of. In the short time I have been here I have learned much. I have the abduction story, that is like many. There are maybe 5 people I have told about it, 3 being family and the other 2 trusted friends. It has been my life time I have lived it without divulging it out of plain fear. Fear of ridicule and behind the back talk. The thought of the exp brings many emotions with it, none of them happy. The memories are a childs, I was very young, 5 or so....and I don't remember alot. What do I remember? Here, I heard sounds at first and they were buzzing sounds, always the sound was my first alert, it didn't take my young mind long to associate the sound with them. Just the sound put intense fear in me because it was acompanied by being paralized, I remember not being able to flee real clear. they, classic grey, mostly came in 3's. I have no idea how they got in the room, vaguely, it's like they came through the walls. Seeing them in my room is the last of these memories, I don't know what happened after that. These memories are sharp and, it's true. Where are the others? in fear I am sure. It took a unique courage to post this. When that ET movie came out, most have seen. I am the guy in the audience that jumped up when it showed itself and said, "KILL IT!" ,sorry emotional response.


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One of the big problems..is that if there are over 50 different version of aliens out there, and the governments of the world were to come clean on it, the net result in humanity would at least be: complete, total, and utter helplessness.

For example: If there is an agenda by 'draco' aliens to subvert humanity to prevent our rise, one of the only things that might stop them from destroying us in the complete sense..is our ignorance of their existence, thus their capacity to use us for other purposes. We know too much..we all die. That, for example, is a large part of the premise and the final considerations from the 'x-files' series that Chris Carter ran, which seemed to take and adapt many a story from the real 'x-files'.

As a technologically aware person, concerning the public and beyond levels of technology, I'd say we are very much on the threshold of finally getting some seeming inter dimensional or 'new' physics out there, with respects to the idea of 'energy out of nowhere' or 'free energy'. This is like these questions of inter-dimensional existence and awareness, aliens, free energy, anti-gravity, dimensional portals, etc, etc.

There has been an ongoing fight between 'free men' and 'corporate/geopolitical/military' interests on the subject of free energy technologies (over unity, anti-gravitation, etc) that has been going on for the past nearly 100 years.

The sciences, on the public face, are finally hitting the brick wall and having to go into these areas of science that are all about alchemy, anti-gravity, over unity, inter-dimensionality, etc. What I mean, is ALL, I mean ALL current research is, in totality, headed right into these areas. No choice, they've exhausted all other avenues.

The free energy researchers are now to numerous to stamp out of existence, to kill them all, as they have done in the past. Even though they still try.

What I'm trying to say, is that mankind is 'brick walling' on all fronts. Right now.

We are most definitely on a threshold, and that load will shift, sometime in the next short years, as far as I can guess, and predict.

Whatever the case is, whatever the truth of it is, the game is up, and very soon.

Hey Thelmadonna, I see we're both encouraging each other on different threads. We're on the same wavelength.
The dogs are always by my side, and they sleep one on each side of our bed. Sentient little buddies. I usually fall asleep w/CtoC on the radio... and only noticed interferance in the reception w/buzzing. I figure it's weather related.
But yes, I pay attention to anything out of the norm.

I agree too, the dogs ears may have been hurting....... either way, they were absolutely beside themselves.......upset when they first noticed something was outside.........and as they faced it.......and only settled a little after it vanished. They still barked and whined but ran sniffing the ground area where it had stood.

Map-reference, thank you for sharing more of you experience w/us.
Those of you that feel you've had a close encounter of the 5th kind really need to share w/others that can relate or understand. I feel the need to and I don't have any recollection of abduction, just a sighting. If anyone know's of such group meets, don't hesitate to share the info. w/the rest. PM if necessary.

I'd like to meet someone like Jim Sparks of 'The Keepers'. It seems he's had enough experience that he now has a messege for the rest of us. I've watched the youtube videos....
anyway, someone w/similar experience that might have some insight we haven't heard yet. He's also of South Florida if I remember.

Prophmaji, what you say here makes sense. At least it seemed to be more on my level that I understood what you're saying.
There's got to be any number of reasons....... but it does seem like more and more there is a subtle discovering taking place so that they don't necessarily have to make a formal announcement. Either way, it's a tricky situation.

End of an era? Life as we knew it.

cruiser

An announcement was made by a Dr. Richard Boylan that 12 environmental scientists from the planet Altimar arrived in January to help deal with Earth's environmental crisis. Landing somewhere in North America. Click the link below to read more about these visitors from Altimar.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2008/03/31.html#recap

http://www.drboylan.com/altimarianslanded.html

Pretty fascinating if it's true.


cruiser

map-reference, please know that you are not alone. Thanks so much for telling your story, I know how hard it is. I could feel your shaking inside, it happened to me the first time I told mine. They are very similar only I was 11. I could not believe the feelings that arose as I was typing. To this day it's something very hard to think about.

Awe, I never thought about that with the dogs Thelma. Always thought it was to warn but now that you say that, yes the crying would indicate pain.

I haven't read the links on Boylan/altimarians yet, just part of it. We'll see I guess? Seems like help with our rogue politicians/TPTB would be more help then climate influence that's coming from elsewhere. Who knows?


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Hello, yeah.....shaking to recall, just not good but, I have to say since coming to bot my total distrust of et is gone. There are good and there are bad, just like here on earth, people. Zingdad's channelling, on earth here I have to believe that there are more good people than bad, I believe in my heart that extending that ideal to the universe, a healthy step. I am thankful to be here, and to Zingdad for the clue that extended my sense. I have looked at abduction sites, last 2 weeks or so and know I am not alone now, it's real shaky stuff man. A friend here has suggested hypnosis to get to the bottom of it, I can't, it's to negative a ride and I'm chicken. Just the truth.
Regarding dogs, I trust mine. She reads, I mean that she loves everyone except one person and she was going to eat him alive. This person is of dubious character. Her nature is defense of me and likewise. If something is hurting her ears or otherwise I am going to make it stop, if I can. I am thinking if pain is caused to the dogs ears, not good vibe and am suspicious of the vibes origin.


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I completely understand Mapreference, the 'it's too negative a ride'........and that you can't go through w/it. While I'm curious to know if there's more to this 'encounter' of mine, I don't think I could relive the fright I felt. Maybe so, now that I'm getting a little more informed. But I'd need a lot of support to do it.
I'm sure I wouldn't have been so afraid if someone else had witnessed w/me. Of course the dogs were there but you don't know how many times I've wished my hubby was there to see it too. Those smarties must know better!

cruiser

cruiser wrote:

I just got finished watching the Philip Schneider youtube vids.....and I'll be honest, all of this scares the hell out of me.

My guess is, and he said it, that the two benevolent types had to leave earth for reasons back home....... so that leaves us here to deal w/the remaining malevolent types. Possibly the type that signed a deal 'greata'? w/Eisenhower. Types that may have been below ground for longer than we've been around. I don't know...... but the whole NWO, prison camps/bases underground.......agenda scares the crap out of me. Now I'm not familiar w/what he mentioned 'boot camp' here in Cheyenne is......... unless it's underground somewhere? For the most part, everything seems normal on base that I can tell.
The being did not hurt us. Unless it wanted the fear adrenoline shot I'm sure I gave off. OR, it didn't feel like tangling w/dogs.
Phil said one about burned a hole in his chest, lost his fingers and toenails charred his leg.......... so they are capable of dealing w/us if they want to.
When it gets to be too much I just tell myself that none of this is real. Some things I'd rather not know about. Some things I'd rather my kids not know about. People will lose their minds over this........... So, will it come to fruition in our lifetime?
Sure is looking that way. Good versus Evil? There's no other option. We can all pray for goodness sake. It might just help. Have faith kids, I do.

cruiser

I'm not sure what your views are on RV and psychism. You seem somewhere between progressively open-minded, and a bit overloaded. I'll just share a few ideas, anyways.

If I can sense right :
The grey you saw, was most-likely one of the more healthy species/breeds. Not the kind that would really need to take biological materials out of people / animals. His main purpose is that he was a worker, and was basically down monitoring different types of installed otherdimensional equipment that was in the area, people and under the area. The whole set of equipment from their side doesn't seem to be harmful, it's mainly for a type of routine deep data-mining. I think also he was not mainly interested in you, but was actually coming to check up on someone else, whom is human-shaped and more heavily monitored/non-interferiatory-implanted.

As far as mr.Phil Schneider, he talks about what he learned about, which is still partial info, mainly about the military side of the whole alien issue. There are way more alien type species, which basically do not interfere with anyone. Those sorts leave everyone alone, so nobody ever really thinks about them or talks about them here.

Besides the underground bases, if what I've learned is correct, there are allot of interdimensional gates and hidden sub-realms actaully attached to the earth. The earth is a multidimensional compound structure.

If my statistics are correct, also, the main cause of trouble for humanity and the main damage-factor is still itself human, or what people do to eachother/don't do. A mix of irresponsability, foolish unwisdom and waste is still the biggest loss.

Because I've taken an increasing interest in learning more about greys and humans and many other sorts of things, mr.cruiser , hopefully we can talk more sometime? Do you like to chat at all?

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I agree, it's a way for this knowledge to get into the hands of the 'right people' hopefully. Let's hear it for the internet.
The trick is weeding out the disinfo. from the real info. I agree that Phil is telling the truth....... seems so. The thought did cross my mind, well did he leave the military disgruntled so he's starting this disinfo. campaign? Just to stir up trouble for the gov. and create hysteria amongst the public. Nope..... the missing fingers, the physical articles 'evidence' he has, those strange crystals, his experiences........... you don't walk away from your final paycheck unless it's something BIG............ and this is BIG. Several attempts on his life........ and now gone? Yup, sure looks like he was telling the truth.

We have friends stationed there at Nellis....... medical field. I don't think they could handle knowing anything like this.

I'm picturing that mountain opening up. I might be tempted to pick up and move elsewhere.

cruiser

As far as my info/understanding is concerned [though I'm ever so imperfect and low] - Is that even if the government released ALL info about all alien issues ever, it would still be not very much information, compared to the sheer mass of actual intelligent life and dimensions there are out there in the galaxies. Humanity doesn't even fully understand itself. How can it understand even one alien species which is much more ancient and complex?

The withholding of information is not so-much based on a complicated reason, as the secrecy on the human governmental side, being based on a sort of non-reason. As you may often see in humanity, many choices are not based on actual reasons. Often there could instead be a big emotion behind a choice, or an unconscious impulse.

The belief culture of humanity, they theorized, would collapse, and something like anarchy would set in, if the truth was released. As you know, over half of humanity is theist, every culture has at its heart some kind of religion, and even the sciences are narrow and imperfect. This and also the concentual sense of reality that all of humanity shares, is basically somewhere between underdeveloped and untrue. They simply feel that they have to keep the truth away from the majority of humanity, like one cannot be handled by the other. Many have said that humanity isn't ready to know.

Prophmaji wrote:

I've seen Phil's videos as well. Nasty stuff, on the best of days. And yes, it's tough to look at that... and then go walk a stable walk. The story I'm seemingly getting, is that there is a war of sorts going on.

On multiple levels. Multidimensional levels.

In an ecosystem where rabbits get eaten by owls and wolves, one could also interporate that as a war between the rabbits and the owls/wolves.

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Apparently, the earth is being used as a training ground for 'the light', in the form of reincarnation for advancing and learning souls. Purgatory is apparently a nearby, smaller dimensional bubble, where issues related to the monkey cortex (emotions of complex and controlling strength) get worked out and where dreams also take place. Formless and dimensionless, to the 3-d reality world.

If you saw some forces using the earth to spawn more consciousness, and only saw that, you'd probably think the whole thing was meant for just that. If you only saw the physical, with all the animals eating and reproducting, you'd think the earth was meant for biological life. If you saw some of the harvesters above this place, leeching off of it for millions of years, and only mainly saw that, you'd probably think that the earth was like a farm, used/meant to feed some other wierd upper-frequency lifeforms.

Depending on what you see and hear, if you've got limited finite information, there happens to be a limited and finite belief. I think I'm desribing how people think, basically, and I'm not trying to formulate an argument. I'm not saying yes or no.

According to my experience, though, the earth is basically used for so many different purposes, that there is NO single set restrictive meaning. The whole process is so multi-directional and irreducably complex, that it has no monism at all. Best expression I could come up with is that the energies around the earth ressonate with all sorts of other planets and stars across the universe, and it's part of the co-relation of everything. It's beyond any single puprose, there's meaningless, positive, negative, divine, mutating and rectifying force constantly passing through all around this place. Almost like a slow and orderly sort of semi-alive chaos.

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Apparently, there are some beings, ones of low repute and lower energies, who can master dimensional travel of their 'vehicles' and 'bodies', with respects to transfer from one 'place' (3-d reality) and the next. Reptilians, greys, etc. Soulless, or weak, nasty, negative souls.

If they were weak, they would not have won the not-so-war. More than one faction has self-destruct-devices built right into this planet, or devices that could potentially be used for such. There's no single ruler over the whole place or process, and capture isn't simple or possible. What you've mainly got is mutlilevel influencing.

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The war appears to be revolving around the ruination of the 'light' forces training ground for advancing souls, the earth.

It looks to me like general predation. If it was wanted to destroy whatever you would call "light", there are very powerful potential weapons for that. But I believe generally greys and earth-humans are equally negative, and if humanity had the kind of technological powers that greys have, they'd most-likely cause even more harm than greys have caused with it. I am talking ofcourse about physical material species. In other realms it tends to be different.

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The earth is apparently nearly unique with respects to it's capacity to hold a large number of souls at one time.

Spirit lifeforms have their own main environments/dimensions, which are far far FAR better for them than the earth is, holding more, sustaining and improving more at once, more rapidly. But ofcourse there are too many energy-based lifeforms to number, also. So, there are certain types that would prefer the earth, ones I'd probably feel sorry for.

The types of souls you describe are often literally created by the material bodies and energy patternizing, of the organic system and how it effects its lifeforce. Those would be the ones whom value and need the earth the most.

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Apparently, the souls are supposed to remain ignorant of the reality of their own multidimensionality and true self while in physical 3-d form, so the lessons they learn are as real as possible..so when they return, they have true understandings, their collective experiences, in the individual sense, are properly tempered by 'good' behavior toward all. The differing lives advance them fast here, so the training ground of earth is highly valued.

Learning, and having your memories/senses erased/being blinded and being mindcontrolled, etc., do not all exactly equate to an ideal education system... Also most earth lives revolve around daily labor, survival tasks, carnality, etc., it's very uneducational, lifespans are short, not much is learned here at all.

I've seen such ideas before, all I can say is
Maybe a question : What have you yet seen?

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The monatomics in the soil and the monatomics in the human nervous system are part and parcel of the dimensional doorway.

The game between these forces who must, by the very nature of the game, in order for it to work..must maintain ignorance in humans is supposedly reaching one of it's cyclic and repeated climaxes. This is merely the current climax.

Ignorance is pretty dangerous. It's truly one of the biggest causes of evils, mistakes, irresponsability, damage, etc. Anyone who is pro-ignorance/pro-blindness, probably has some serious problems.

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The forces of negativity are supposedly largely tied to this 3-d reality, and are limited by it, but also eat or consume negative energy, where the light forces thrive on..knowledge and the light.

There is basically an equal amount of lifeforms that prefer negative and positive energy polarities. Though what you call negative energy to humans, is actually positive ions. Human bodies function more optimally in an abundance of negative ions. It is the north magnetic polarity which is generally good for the human body [pro-aerobic], whilst the south polarity is pro-anaerobic. There are some plant species which also prefer south pole to north. Ofcourse that does not mean that a tomatoe is an evil lower lifeform bound to third dimension, even if it may prefer to use a pole of biomagnetism that is not prefered by us.

As far as I have seen, greys especially are not as tied to the 3-d as humans are, and are perhaps even less negative than you are, energetically, on a whole type of scale.

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As the current game cycle comes to a close, the forces of the light force, ultimate knowledge, and togetherness..finally have to show their hand, by showing that the truth of multi-dimensionality exists..but they still want as many 'humans' (learning souls) to do their darnedest to learn truth from within their own ignorant state, thus as many students (whom do not ever die!!) will 'pass' as possible. Sirians, Pleiadians etc. that is what WE humans, are.

Relatives yes, but where are your extra internal organs?

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Reptilians are supposedly not as 'high up' in their learning and many to most, still feed off of and live in the negative energy areas of multi-dimensionality. Some are 'white light' Sirians, some are bad dudes.

Some of the souls who occupy the near dark realm of purgatory and 'hell' are there to eat and consume the souls or take and use the energy there for purposes of aiding the war, etc. Gather the broken souls into a group and squeeze, control. Thus the thousand eyed beasts, the essence of hell, etc. Thought becomes reality there. Strength of mind becomes strength of all, in that realm. The biggest cranium, with least fearful mind ---wins!!

Does that equate to predators existing in allot of ecosystems and societies?

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In essence, we have this current 'end game' in a cycle of multidimensional wars being played out, right now.

The Greys, Reptiles, Dracos, etc, use the monatomic soils, etc, for multidimensional existence, for longevity and near immortality,and for travel in the 'stargate' type essence (power, electricity, gravity control, matter control, etc).

The true multi-dimensionals, the Pleiadians, the Sirians, etc, utilizing the earth as a training ground, have great difficulty in dealing with transferring energy across/through the 'density' of 3-d matter.

The Pleiadians I seen, didn't appear to be in the best of shape. And as said earlier, there are many species which are more interdimensional, and also more positive than human-relatives are.

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Thus the baddies hiding under ground. And the mining or bases all in areas where their are VERY high concentrations of Monatomics in the soils. The reptilian feeding off of the negative energies, the eating of pregnant women for the intense high of the fear combined with food and monatomics in the fetus and placenta..and the small soul inside..etc. All of that bizarre seeming stuff.

Just a little comment on that :
Underground bases is a rather standard colonization method. Almost every planet has some, if anyone's there, they usually use an underground base instead of building houses or whatever else on surface. It's usually allot safer, more long-lasting, and generally preferable, to build underground.

I suppose you could say that reptoids of that sort are evil/baddies, because they eat life. But you also eat animals. A wolf or lion is no different. In the same way that some alien types of a higher IQ and higher strength would potentially eat some people, people have eaten many animals of a little lower IQ, dispite how painful or fearful it may all be from a herbavore type perspective. In many ways you're all the same.

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The Pleiadians and the Sirians have MANY, MANY more training grounds than this one..the Earth. But as stated, it is considered to be one of, if not, the finest.

Who said that?
Last time I checked, earth wasn't so good a place.

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The monatomics on the soils and in the nervous systems of the physical creatures..which allow for soul placement and communication...and the true 'hardness' of the lessons learned, and the 'short' lifespans and high risk lives, with intense emotionally based searing lessons learned in each life, make it a fabulous place to be, for a given learning soul. One that is attempting to 'go clear' in order to ascent and join with the grand group mind of 'the light'. The absolute height of strapping a metaphysical rocket to your butt...and surfing your way to nirvana, for 'souls'.

As the end game nears, the best way for the forces of negativity to foil the use of the Earth by the forces of light..is to keep the 'learning souls' ignorant of their true reality..and so they are filled with fear and when they die..violently..they go to that 'purgatory space' for harvesting by the negative forces. At this point, the forces of light, need to try and finally give up the lesson format, and FINALLY go a war footing where the soul in training has to become aware of their true multi-dimensionally, so that the portion of their true FULL dimensional self that is on earth, which is only a small part of their larger selves....so that part is not paired off and lost in purgatory, like an arm or leg that is lost (but will grow back, over time,and lives lived)..and is harvested by the baddies.

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The light, for example..may have intruded on the game of 'slave' or 'worker' creation by the reptilians, and used the vessels they created for soul inclusion. Good way to PO a large group of physically based multidimensional creatures.

Or..the opposite may be true..where Reptilians and the like insert themselves into the 'remote controlled' dream'ish game of soul surfing by the Sirians and Pleidians..and attempt to take it over.

So there you have it. Make what you will of it.

I think we've all got a very limited amount of information here.
I met a fair amount of persons with similar ideas to your