The Book Of THoTH

If someone truly has a sustainable ability this is not going to be an issue. Nor are those people going to ask the doctor what they should do about it... they are going to seek the help of the energetic. Depression in regards to psychics (at least to me) just means that they have a long way to go before they get the results they want.

Energy is energy... we can label it all the different things we want to. But in the end, its a matter of training your body to receive the energetic. Well being and accumulating energy go hand in hand.

I have had the gift of clairaudience (since I was 5-6 years old) or what my mom always said "they speak to you". after studying buddhism for 7 years and learning the gift of meditation, being raised christian and having the utmost faith in what gave me this gift..my depression and abilities have simply increased with age. After so many years in meditation to actually learn to clean what has rubbed off onto my own aura and energy..my abilities have become the gift of sight..extreme empathic too.
I once met a girl that had an abortion and complained to me of bleeding, within an hour of speaking to her, I had to run to the bathroom for I had started bleeding.
I take in throw away teenagers..someone, I felt needs to help these kids. My talks to them resonate...and they change their lives..a couple have escaped the meaning, but most have gotten jobs, now live on their own, bough cars, gone to college, etc. I am very proud of them. But it is the constant unloading that the new teens bring upon me that I try to help. I feel I have over extended my spiritual self.
Now, depression overtakes me at least 2 weeks out of a month. Of which I need to sit with no TV, (if you are hypersensitive like me, you woill understand what happens if the hubby tunes the tv to cnn for a couple of hours).
With teens living in my house, along with my own teens, I get overcome, and meditation is very hard for me...its hard for me to get that break.
I even had a psychic working with me as a mentor trying to teach me..but all I did was constantly pick up on her energy...it drove me nuts.
So anyone have any help..I have tried the medication route and I guess that feeling of being blocked(thats the effect anti depressants have on me)...scares me as I have always had this empathic issue..I dont really feel like myself. I feel like a zombie.
Any suggestions?

Hi mommakaren!

I too am clairaudient, although mine usually doesn't happen unless I'm touching something, then I hear the vibe or "voice" of whatever I'm holding.

I wish I had some advice for you, because what you describe about being hypersensitive applies to me as well. I find solitude to be extremely therapeutic; being able to be in an environment with very low-level stimuli, and where I can control the nature and amount of the stimuli, is what works best for me. It isn't very practical, though -- very hard to achieve in today's speed-of-light fast-paced world.

Hi Mommakaren,

I am empathic and also seek solitude and grounding as a means of coping. Meditation helps me. I also study from the Book of Storms and read from the forum. Google Book Of Storms - it is a free online book / lessons written to help empaths and other gifted people learn to cope with things.

The forum members are helpful because they make you realize that you are not alone, nor are you odd.

Not advertising as everything is free. The psychologist who developed this material believes in sharing to help all.

It will take time and commitment to oneself. But you are worth it.

Enaid

I agree with what Chi_Disciple said in the first post of this thread..

ANYONE can learn through meditation..It opens so many doors in the mind that you never knew you had.. You are able to control the body..pain..anxiety..depression..you are able to calm the soul..and for some leave the body..

Searching within one's own self..can lead to many answers..

To extend this meditation Buddhist monks have a goal of becoming one with the universe..To allow one's self to actually leave the body and the mind and be one.
It sounds far fetched but I did achieve it once..and I was not even attempting.

If one can achieve this higher state of being..then one becomes everything in the universe at one time..and is everywhere....being the energy that is EVERYWHERE in our universe..after all we are not of solid mass..and to become one..is truly not that difficult when one is only energy..

It is certainly hard to explain..such a thing..when one's own / my own human mind cannot fully comprehend..That is the point that most do not understand..None of us..you, me anyone can fully understand with our human minds..we must learn to leave them.. to gain full understanding.

Even though..I did have this (what I call) awakening and fully understood life and the universe..when I returned to my body..ALL the understanding began to fade..All the feelings of TRUE love and happiness also began to fade..as my mind began to take over once again..

I gasped onto everything that I could..but it was next to nothing compared to..as I was out of body/mind and as one with the universe.
It did change me though..to the point of being a totally different human than what I was prior to the awakening..I am living my life..fully aware now..fully awakened.

If everyone could achieve this and could continue to achieve this..what a glorious world we could have..

The mind is the most powerful thing we have...It can show you the universe..it can show you everything...it can allow you to be everything..

mommakaren,
It sounds like you are giving up too much positive energy and leaving none for you..It takes a lot..dealing with negative..it can be very exhausting..I am sure you know that part very well..
I commend you for your noble efforts to help those who are lost..You are a very beautiful human to do such acts. BUT..you really need to give your self time to rejuvenate you positive energies..

I can tell that is the case because of how you are mentioning your depression..THAT is not an effect from meditation..that I do know..
It is from the lack of positive in you..I do not mean your mind..you seem very strong..I mean your energy..YOU..inside you..your entity or spirit..or whatever you want to call it.

I am not a doctor..and am not suggesting anything..but..I am telling you from my own personal experience..that those marshmallow pills they give for depression..do not help one meditate or even think clearly.
Those marshmallow pills seem to prevent you from even achieving a true peace..as your mind cannot focus..

Meditation..is a very serious answer..and if you have 7 years of meditation under your belt..You should be very capable in achieving whatever you set out to do.
The mind controls the body..but you (your soul) controls the mind..That is the only order you can have.. to achieve what you need.

Like I said..I am not a doctor..and I am NOT suggesting you stop taking any meds.. I think that if things are not getting better after the initial time period they gave you..then you should talk..very openly to your doctor..perhaps he/she will understand and may have alternative ideas for you.. I know many western doctors..are waking up to other methods being used with positive results.

Take care and good luck to you!

This 18 minute clip seemed to fit well with the current flow of this thread, so I thought I'd post it here for consideration: Link.

Credit for this one goes to katsmeow, who found it and passed the link on to me. Thanks kats

It's interesting watching the varied but uniformly overlapping reactions to that first perceptive "step beyond". Almost invariably those who manage it get thoroughly lost in the ecstatic feel good of that one alternative, and never notice that it is but a single step, with much more beyond it which is far more profound.

Heh... "damn this feels so good... I'll stay right here"




Tiger

Thanks for the video Tig and kats What a yowza moment for me. The whole left brain right brain thing.

This woman really shattered some myths. (although I wonder what it would have been like had the right side of her brain had been damaged .. )

The thing that was really profound for me is the idea that we are two separate individuals chattering... reminded me of the cartoons with the devil on one shoulder and the angel on the right.

It's an interesting account for sure. I loved the "oh how cool" routine LOL

btw, I like the new sig you got there Reb. TANSTAAFL




Tiger

I wasn't surprised that she had the "oh cool" attitude. After all, she is of the "scientist" mindset. She clearly had a ...

As this relates to the thread - are we to assume that the right brain is where we go to meditate and/or find those things that our logical side cannot see (or ignores)?

Perhaps the "depression" is merely a result of the debate that goes on between both hemispheres?

Or it's the gateway for the mind to get there, or "it takes two to tango", or any of several other variations. I guess which one ya like depends on if you take your faith straight or with a mixer.

Potayto, potahto.




Tiger

Hello mommakaren and Enaid. I am not ignoring everyone else. I just not have formally addressed either of you before so like to say hello.

I, too, am an empath and claireaudient, although I would hesitate to ever call them gifts. They are more like the gift that keeps giving and giving and giving until you might want to throw up. heh

I have found that often what we view as either "something wrong with us" or as "what have I done to deserve this?", those events have served to open me further and help me understand more deeply about myself. I am able to look back at those times and realize they served their purpose and that purpose was that we do not stagnate in our understandings.

As we all age, we have certain realizations and we tend to "stick" in those moments unless prodded further. Adversity or illness does work its magic.

Mommakaren you have seen your abilities as gifts. I would say look upon your present situation as a gift and things may begin to make more sense.

I wish you well.

p.s. Tiger and Rebbie, you're welcome.

So true , Kats , so very very true...

Kats , Tiger , thank you SO much for sharing the video.....

I remember being so disparaging of The Universe , God , someone , anyone , that had allowed the current bad thing to happen to me after I had done nothing to invite it into my life....

I remember working so hard at the options I had to try and correct the issue or event I DID NOT WANT

The Universe, God , consciousness got its way... no matter what I did to steer events into another direction , or backwards to before the " incident" happened ... I could not ....

And then ....when I gave into its happening..... there was an awakening inside of me..... and I realised that there was a higher reason. And things happened as they should.... and things happened as they were to be for me and for others in my life.

It sometimes feels like that scene in Poseidon where the group need to swim through an area flooded with water to reach the other side and access to rescue. And some wont take the risk , and some do it knowing the outcome , some do it to survive , and some do it so that others can survive...

I hope this makes some sense.....

It makes sense to me. I used to get depressed or upset when "small" things went wrong (ie, if someone treated me badly; not getting a job I wanted, etc.).

But all of that changed when something exceptionally bad happened. I lost many things but gained something much more valuable. I realized I can't control most of what happens and that there is very little worth getting upset about. I realized what is important in my life and for the first time felt free to live the way I want to. Many other positive things have followed...

It makes perfect sense. The toughest part is remembering when the next 'round hits you and learning to accept that gracefully, yet again.

Learning never ends. There are no limits to what we are permitted to understand. The only limits that exist are the self-imposed limits.

Ever so eloquent...

You said it kats

One of the hardest of all lessons to learn is to stop expecting results when we twist the plastic steering wheel on our infant size carseats "We ain't driving" LOL




Tiger

I was a sensitive child and woman and until I experienced Postpartum Depression (PPD) with Panic/Anxiety Attacks did I truly realize I was depressed a majority of my life and that PPD was no accident. Through my experience I learned how to calm my body by taking "Ignatia Amara" - a remedy that costs $8.75 a bottle and is used by simply using 30 drops in a litre of water drank throughout the day. I combined this remedy with deep breathing and Angel Therapy, too.

I also connected with three amazing women to write a book, manage a website and blog and speak, regularly on the hope and healing surrounding Postpartum Depression. Our husbands often join us, too! I found by being honest with my experience did I find even more healing. By realizing that my imperfections are perfect, am I now letting go of the incessant need to worry and attract negativity into my life.

I not only use Angel Clearings on myself, but on my three year old daughter. She loves the clearing at night and her night terrors have now become rare instead of regular. I have also introduced the Hawaiian affirmation, Ho'oponopono into my daily life, "I love you. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you!" http://www.whatishooponopono.com/ - ignore the advertising I'm also going through counselling sessions with Dr. Rose http://www.drrosebackman.com/ who goes to the core of every issue - our relationship with our parents and what belief systems we learned when very young and continue to use to this day that do not serve a joyful life. She teaches you how to physically and emotionally forgive and let go and protect. We need facilitators to help guide us through this process. It does take training.

I incorporate into my life empowering thoughts and actions - I understand and know even more that every single one of my actions either empower or dis-empower our spiritual/human connection and we need to realize that - http://www.howwouldloverespond.com/. The more we realize and re-member how powerful and connected we are...the more we reach a level of calm - chaos/depression/dis-ease comes from imbalance. We need to envision a world in our minds that we WANT. Then live it as much as we can. If we don't all the time...no worries, that's part of the journey; not perfection!

Oh yes...an "Attitude of Gratitude" only attracts more of the same! I'm grateful as all heck to have found this thread as it's exciting to meet with more like-minded people! Thanks SO MUCH for this opportunity to share!!

With love & light!
Elita

p.s. When you surrender to a greater power, miracles tend to happen, too! You begin to let go, and trust. You begin to practice, moment by moment, awareness of your connection with the Divine. You learn to recognize inspiration when it comes to you, and you act on it. You realize the greatest thing you can do is agree to each moment. In this stage, miracles happen, and they constantly astonish you as they do. You live, in general, in a constant state of amazement, wonder, and gratitude!

~ Joe Vitale

After 2 days of headaches.. which is quite unusual for me... it only recently occurred to me to link the recent Earthquakes.. and the Tsunami as a possible cause..

I remember years ago when there was this shooter in Tasmania who shot around 14 people... at that time I was at a 50th.. and having anxiety attacks... didn't put 2 and 2 together until later...

I have always felt random aches and pains.. injuries.. and many other manifestations.. that I didn't realize was empathic till in my 32nd year!!!

I've had the weirdest psychic experiences.. and for a while thought I was going nuts... as I did not understand what psychic was or meant.. or in how many forms it manifests.. I spent years being frightened that people would see me and recognize what I was going thru and lock me up.. so wouldn't tell anyone.. I remember washing my hands constantly.. until I remembered the Macbeth scene.. and laughed.. I had not harmed a soul...so why?

Still I got anxiety attacks when in public places.. felt uncomfortable in cramped quarters with people.. like in movie theaters.. found it hard to sit still..felt itchy...until much later .. I had this out of body experience... and experienced the Oneness of all.. ( I think I spoke of it in detail in another post)... Somehow .. sometimes I found I started kind of leaving myself..just perhaps an armlength away... like semi OBE's and realized after a while that I was really distracted by everything around me..on some inner outer level.. I had to really concentrate to even see a movie as in a sense I was outside myself.. looking around.. and actually had to really focus on myself..and then see thru my eyes..and absorb what was going on... like looking thru binoculars.. and getting different focuses...

During this time of 'being' slightly outside myself... I was safe from much of this empathicness... I seemed to have another connection that was more peaceful...
I also learned how to use some of this empathicness by doing some healing courses and some spiritual development courses.. and learned new ways to channel these energies.. experiences.. and influence them... I found that everyone has unique experiences...and unique was of perceiving their life..and the life around them... some get told.. or 'learn' ways to adapt their experiences into perceptions...

But..for a while now.. I am back together.. feel a little diminished.. .. feel more of the sadness.. until I get distracted and forget... LOL... my moods are scattered...


But what I am getting at.. is that I fully understand the need for empathic counsellers psychologists.. who understand a little of what is going on... will not relegate those who have these experiences to the nuthouse or medication...

If you see that something needs fixing... why not step in and try yourself...

LOL.. I have decided that maybe it will be my calling to be one of these counsellors.. psychologists that fully understand the psychic connection.. perhaps use some of my experiences.. and new learnings to help others...


LOL... it is taking a while.. fate is putting brakes on my journey... I'm sure I'll get there... Maybe I need to experience more...


But what I have learned so far.. is not to be a victim.. be proactive...

If you are swamped with negative energy.. send out light , healing energies..to the source of these... ask for angelic/spirit healing or assistance..
Every time I see an injured person.. or a squashed bird on the road.. I send light... healing...

I read in Mary Summer Rain books.... how psychically she was shown that when an animal is killed unexpectedly... it doesn't really realize it is dead.. so like a short film.. loop... it keeps reliving it's last seconds or minutes... until.. it just fades...
So what she does is send/ask for a spirit energy of one of it's kind to help it on with it's journey to the spirit.. .. Sort of like what the Ghost Whisperer does for people..

I do something similar to all accident sites.. as I sometimes see auras hanging around the accident site..


I do that.. and I can feel a release of the negative energy...it transmutes...

I do something similar.. adapt it to all situations.. send light energy.. to angry situations...to where there is hurt and pain..

you can visualize any healing/helpful scenario... and trust that the higher spirit and the higher spirit attached to the people in question will help and adjust transmute some of the vibes...

It is the intention.. that counts..

Like sending blessings...

It really works.. and you can feel like a singing energy radiating from these scenes..

help where you can.. and if you can't.. know that your blessings of sorts will still help in some way...



It is of the same strain of thought... that I read today...

Hay House UK "I give a portion of my time to helping others. It is good for my own health" Louise L. Hay...

Anyway that is how I deal with things... and the world often seems brighter...'cause you shine your light where ever you can..

Those are some great suggestions crystalsage. I would imagine it's been hard going through the experiences to learn how to cope with them or to ease them. Thank you for sharing.

I have similar experiences and have also been wondering how I could help with the suffering on the planet without necessarily having to be in the physical location of the suffering. I will try your suggestion of sending light and healing. I also think there need to be counsellors and pschologists out there who understand what it's like to be psychic and help people deal with psychic depression. To this end I am training to be a counsellor and feel it's more a part of my spiritual development than professional! Wish me luck

Good to see you again , Amethyst.!
I find I am becoming more and more sensitive to peoples personal energy levels,good or bad and so I try to protect myself from the draining aspects of those that "draw" energy from me . If I offer it to them it seems to replace itself quite readily, and sometimes what I offer comes back at me.
I dont feel able to focus easily on distance healing... but I think thats just becuase of my own weaknesses , not because its not possible.

Maybe we can be study buddies.. lol.. and keep each other motivated....



I learned various healing modalities..for this reason.. to learn to understand and work with it...and so when you get to the second level.. you learn how to send 'absent healing' ..'distance healing' with confidence... intent is important.. allow/ politely ask, the Universe/the One..or angelic helpers.. to work with you.. assist you... or offer to send them energy to help them work with their charges..... just 'know' that it is working.. just put your hands out there and feel it.. visualize yourself ...your energy focus..like in an OBE experience...working on them .. feel it... channel energy, light energy, (If you need somewhere to focus from) the Universal God force.. love energy....know that the energy will transmute and adapt to the person's needs...ask for their higher selves.. their guardian angels to assist here...send healing energies.. paramedic angels to them... Know it will work.... then remember to disconnect... I usually either visualize blowing away the remaining healing/ angel dust.. or shaking it away.. like water droplets.... especially if the connecting energy is really strong.. and you can feel the pain still in your hands... Remember to ask for protection.. and if you forget.. ask for a cleanse.. or visualize going under a sparkling light shower to cleanse.. and revitalize...

You can even use it to visualize light energy to help locate and give strength to the Indonesian earthquake and Tsunami survivors ... visualize.. send energy to the realm that feeds synchronistic events... increases chance to help locate the survivors... visualize wreckage just sliding off trapped to help them people.. Send energy to those rescuers to Increase their intuitive powers to help find people...

There are many ways you can use it...
Remember the Universe can not automatically help... you need to ask for it... grab( with appropriate thanks and some love) the energy and send it on.. Note they will be praying.. asking for help... emphatically boost their drawing power for strength and synchronistic events to occur to help them..


There are so many ways one can use this knowledge for applying love .. compassion... healing.. transmuting the Light energy... and it's available to all...

Knowing you can all do this.. help others in so many ways... on so many levels.. should also help with depression..

The love and compassion you give out.. just grows...