The Book Of THoTH

I started in the beginning to learning clairvoyance, but I have read that shamans used to use clairgustience and clairessence for reading psychic taste and smell. Does anyone know how to develop these to higher levels?

I read that shamans could enter other dimensions through smell and taste. It is very interesting I think.

As one of the resident shaman here, my experience is that the best means of developing the "other world" senses is to develope them "in real life".

The shamanic traditions come to us from so called primitive peoples who live their lives in close contact with nature, peoples who typically use their senses as day to day coping tools rather than depending on the manufactured tools of "civilisation".

Getting out in the wild, away from people and without taking technological crutches along with you is the best way I know to develope the senses. The longer you can manage to stay out, the better, as it both allows time to relax and distance yourself from the expectations of society and also forces you to rely on your own sensory resources.




Tiger

As a city slicker shaman, I don't have access to many places far from urban life, but I do have the beach, parks and my backyard, which is really where I prefer to be.

I request assistance when I need it from the elements, but to be honest, I do not request things for me personally, unless its understanding that I need to garner about a certain situation, event or feeling.

I never thought about asking for more or different ways of "knowing". I just thought they would come if I needed them. What's that old saying?...."Where attention goes energy flows." Maybe a part of the development is that you begin to pay attention to these "senses" and accept them as valid.

However, I do agree with Tiger. Being out in nature, away from it all, exercises alot more than just your body and its nourishing to your spirit as well.

Well I noticed something strange when I was experimenting with energy manipulation. While I was draining energy off a plant, I could smell the plant. I stop draining, I can't smell it anymore. I pick off a leaf and smell it, it smells exactly the same. If I move to a different plant the same thing happens so its consistent.

As for psychic hearing, I have occasionally heard things like a millisecond before they happen. Like I hear a door slam a few seconds before it slams or a doorbell ring.

You are beginning to be able to see through time.

This skill can be developed further. In any direction.

I agree with the getting back to nature part of this. My backyard is my nature, although I live in Vegas, I cannot enter the strip area. I prefer to stay to the west where I live with the Red Rock canyon in my backyard. This is where I go most of the time to "get in touch" or sharpen my skills. I actually took flight and went to Sedona, Arizona..I came back a different person. I had sharpened my abilities to an unbelievable degree...it does dissipate after awhile if I do not continue to keep that energy (which I am having trouble with now, believe me).
I find that sometimes even staring at a tree can help. I seem to relate much better to th earth than the ocean, even though I was raised on the beach. If I walk upon indian land (like sedona, or the red rock canyon in Vegas), it is like a recharging...the problem comes in making the time to check my battery.

Have you ever been to the Anasazi ruins at Four Corners?

I have recently discovered this , and find myself a lot more attuned and calmed to the natural energy that surrounds us, if I pay enough attention.
Hopefully , with health issues alleviated a little, my partner and I should be able to get amongst the natural beauty that surrounds us a lot more than previously.

I have found that I can think straighter , more clearly , and have more inspiration , creative and profound thoughts the closer to nature I get.

How does one become a shaman?

That depends entirely on how you are using the word Shaman. If, as it sounds from your question, you are electing to pursue a shamanic path, then you are opting for the new age version, that has been popularised for mass consumption.

In that event you can simply hook up with any of the multitude of "shamanism" gurus that are around and selling programs of instruction and books.

Classic shamanism is entirely different in that it is something that happens to you, not something you choose. The classic shaman is a servant, not a master, and the "fulfillment" of the shaman isn't even part of the picture.

For a good synopsis of the distinction between core and classic shamanism, see this article




Tiger

EDIT> for the inevitable typos

Thanks for the resource Tiger, I am interested for sure.

Oh, W.T. you have hit the proverbial nail on the head....

I should on this one. It's something I live, like it or not




Tiger

How does one 'know' that they've been chosen to be a classic shaman? Signs, a voice, a feeling, a knowing? I'm curious.




cruiser

For the lucky ones who happen to live in a society with some remaining "primitive" traditions, it would be by cultural context.

For those unfortunates in "advanced" societies such as here in the US where judeo-christian values and technical materialism have all but destroyed the older traditions it's a real crap shoot.

There is no touchstone in this culture that can be the anchor for the mind, and in fact most of the symptoms are such that anyone seeking help in understanding what is happening to them is virtually certain to be fitted for a lace-up canvas sport jacket unless they have wit enough to conceal that they are pink monkeys in a cage full of brown ones.

Some get an inkling of what is happening to them and rush about trying on assorted traditions that claim to be available, but that is something of a waste of time. The anchoring point needs to be one that is so well suited to the cultural standards of the victim that the costs are acceptable; otherwise the tacked on system is just an added burden.

For the most part, in places like the US, the victims of the shamanic process end up sleeping in refrigerator boxes or locked away somewhere under medication.

Heh. The answer to your simple question is quite complex and the ramble above is just a bare bones outline




Tiger

Well..I am way out of my depth on this subject..and have never been lucky/unlucky enough to experience either of these processes..

What I can imagine it to be ..is like belief/faith in things I have..an inner voice telling me something that defies any 'normal' logic..and I accept it..

Well put, WT- I have experienced the "locked away" part & it is extremely ugly! Although these "places" seem okay from the outside & one goes there under the expectation of "getting better or well", that's the LAST thing that's going to happen, if any of the other ones were like the one I went to. All I can say is thank God I didn't have better insurance than what I had. "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest" was pretty close & some of the folks there (patients) were incredibly gifted...

Well Tig hit the high points. heh If you want to call them that. It is a time of choice. The shaman I know all have come to that time of choosing in different manners, but the time has come to us all. I say choosing because one does have the option to ignore the call. I would not reccomend it, but it is possible.

To be quite frank, my time was presented as a choice. I would have made no other choice, as I feel somewhat as nuns or priests do about the creator. It is a calling. To refuse would be unthinkable to me.

It is not always presented as a choice, in fact, it probably rarely is. As I once told Tiger, maybe I was given a "choice" because the answer was already assured. heh I don't know.

The short answer is you know it when it happens. It is unmistakable.

kats

Thank you WT and Kats, for the enlightenment!

Crap shoot it is.




cruiser

I know the feeling. It came to me of it's own volition. I am it's servant. I do as it asks, doing my best to not slur my own mind upon it. Early it began, formation of it was long. It will never truly complete it's circle, but it will be a journey, nonetheless. Enjoy it I do. Whatever the outcome.

I seemingly have a lot of power, or capacity to open, learning to channel it safely is tricky, as right now I live beside a major highway, so manifestation for strengthening and opening is difficult, as the energies can cause confusion and distraction in others. Accidents will be the result..and my playing can and likely will cost someone their life. There have been times when I was stuck in traffic, and out of exasperation I compelled forward movement to the leading edge of the group..and one car jumped forward..and then an accident. Whoops! Just a bit too loud, there.

The other side of the coin is to calm an entire hospital complex as much as I can at the given time, when sitting in the waiting area of a walk in clinic. That's a good feeling. when up on top of the energy, I can make or break the mood and energy of an entire gathering or building, when it it. One time I shut down a building with 1200 people and about 1600 computers in it. Whoops! again.

Once, after 5 years of concentrated effort, I managed to have one foot in each world, and I could have continued and left, if I wanted. But I knew I was not done here. Sadly, I had to stay, and it was difficult at first, as I had remembered what home really felt like, and it was hard to turn that down.

I will iterate this one more time:

You folks should very, very seriously consider Micheal Newton's book 'journey of souls'. It does cover everything we've just touched on.

lol cruiser. I guess the simplest way to answer the "how do you know" question is to say that the one always present and unmistakable sign is, you die. Try googling the term "shamanic death"

Keep working on it prophmaji. Sooner or later you'll get past those human needs and contexts and get onto the real thing.




Tiger

I have been. I came back to this circle to finish some tasks. Then on to the really fun stuff again.

I am immersed in the context so when the time comes, the shape of the work and the pitch...causes the curve ball to have just the right spin. A lifetime..to complete just the right nudge.

The 'bridge', the split, is difficult. I'll be going back to it soon. Keeping it coherent for others is the real trick. Anticipating every word, every sentence, every move, every thing that is to come to pass, it makes folks a bit freaky. I have a difficult time keeping track of linear time. Or the changes that chance brings to the outlay of the future.

I allowed myself to step away from it about 5 years back, which took nearly a year to complete...and the old human fears part, once again, attempts to re-establish itself. Thankfully the pathway already exists, and I can find my way back. Soon enough. once I'm there, the balance point is simple enough. The sheer joy of it helps keep it stable. I know I just contradicted myself, but , as usual...that's the way it goes on that one! It's difficult from here, it's easy from there.

It's like addressing the idea of intellect from the core or hindbrain up..and then the frontal cortex is no longer the seeming driver, but only the public face of the rider. There is an entirely different set of considerations, controls and mechanisms of awareness, recognition, and existence, all tied together, as if the standard human idea of intellect is merely a sheen on the core drive point.

Basically, I put the kid in charge of the public face for awhile, again.

Huh... "fun stuff" eh? Like I said, keep working on it, sooner or later you'll see past bounds of that box




Tiger

Ah, yes. That's a definite sign and nothing is ever the same as it was.

Prophmaji, I wish you well on your journey.

WT wrote:

For the most part, in places like the US, the victims of the shamanic process end up sleeping in refrigerator boxes or locked away somewhere under medication.
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I'd have to agree w/you there. Did some reading on shamanic death...... thanks for the direction.


cruiser

I am interested WT.

How did YOU deal with it. You obviously aren't locked up and probably aren't sleping in a fridge.

Initially by concealing the situation from all those around me who would be in a position to start the chain of events that would have ended with me locked up. During that period the most common single thing for me to say to the very very few I could safely talk to was "I don't want to BE this!".

In the long run, by assessing and understanding the cost, and making the decision to accept it. Who I was for those first decades is as dead as JFK




Tiger

That sounds fairly full on to say the least.

On reading this thread I can say that I certainly have an affinity with the feelings. I have never felt anything as intense as illness but I always long for nature.

There are particular places around my area that I have to visit at least every year and if I haven't been the urge gets quite strong and I just get in the car and go. 2 are headlands and the other two are swimming holes. One of these pools is particularly stunning as it is close to a circle with high rock walls (at least 40 ft) surrounding at leat 300 degress.

There are also aboriginal (Australian) pestal imprints in the rock where they used to grind up cycad seeds. Majical place.

Anyway...not sure where I am going but that is what I have to share.

Cheers

It was largely the same for me. The turning point came when I found myself lying on the bathroom floor, curled up, two hours late for work..and within ten minutes or less, of calling the folks who would have taken me away to the funny farm for a rest. Thankfully, I had not the wits to even handle a phone, at that time. I was at the point for months, where I could not identify people by name,as I 'felt' them,as a young child would. I was re-forming on the most base level. I knew what I was doing, I willfully initiated the entire process. I was incapable of, at that time, of emotionally holding myself together for periods longer than 5-10 minutes, and I was sleeping no more than 1.5 hours a night, for well over 18 months. I had will fully regressed myself to a small child..and then went backward into the womb. That's when it really starts to flow. I had found the way in..and purposely ran straight into it, both knowing the cost would be great, but not knowing what it was.

It was the best time of my life, with regards to new things and adventure combined with knowledge revealed..and it was the worst time of my life. It was awful, it was awesome. I'd do it again in a heartbeat, but the intensity certainly requires a stout mind and body...and the will to pass through it. But not too fast. I slowed it down, to digest as much as possible.

I pulled myself together and went to work, that day. At that time, I was going through such change..that even my own dog barely recognized me. The psychic connection to my pup also went through the roof, as my own capacities expanded exponentially. My time sense was very screwed, with respect to linear time and visions, both past and future..and sometimes present....

Walking around in a adult body..that is intensely psychic and aware, with a non linear time sense and being of a two week old child in emotional construction for the most part..and attempting to communicate effectively at that time with others, is a tricky thing indeed. I was also in a sales/technical job at the time, dealing with the public all day, no less. What a trip for them to deal with me! And vise-versa...

I'd tell people (that I knew) that I was a bit screwed up and stuck in this 'situation'..and they'd not believe me, so I'd pull a handful of coins from my pocket and say 'heads'..toss them all on the floor..and 90%+ would come up heads. Like that. All day. Whatever I wanted to do, or see, it was right there. But the price of knowing and seeing, is not a small one......for the average mind.

It took me quite awhile to sort it out. As it would anyone.