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Crazyeugene
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Post subject: Meditation/Asana Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:19 pm |
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I know there are many asanas, but why are most meditators always shown in the lotus position? Is there some advantage this one has over the others or is it just chosen because for the average person it is, in the beginning, quite unnatural? It always seems to me like nothing but a big, cartoon-like intimidation, saying if you can't do this you'll never get enlightened. The one advantage I do see in it though, is that it locks you in, no moving, and movement/jitters of the leg annoy me to no end (well, to the end of my meditation:P).
The position I usually sit in, because it comes naturally and feels comfortable (usually), is with both legs crossed, but touching the ground, not each other, so that one is behind the other. A bit diifficult to describe but if need be I could provide a picture. Anyone else who does it in this position? I also leave one hand on my knee, and one hand at my right ankle, in a sort of Shiva fashion, it's very comfortable and helps keep my posture straighter than in other ways.
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nebula
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:35 pm |
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Quote: Lotus Position: Padmasana, or Lotus Pose, named so because the position puts the souls [sic] of the feet up, reminiscent of a lotus flower. The prime position for meditation, it is the most renowned of all Hatha Yoga postures.
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I find "souls of the feet" slightly amusing.
Keep in mind that there are many paths to The Tao, the lotus position being but one of them. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:05 pm |
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I think it may have to do with Pranic breathing , could it be that by sitting thus , you are joining the right hand side of your body to the left hand side of the body through placing the soles of the feet against each other.
I also think that the base chakra is this position is connecting ones self to the earth ,so by sitting in the lotus position one is connecting through the base of the spine ? rather than the feet
There are many that meditate laid prone, but I think that the lotus position is one of stability and low centre of gravity and puts you in the mindset of meditation by being the position unique to the meditation and not used for other things.
I personally think comfort , or at least lack of distraction, is best for meditation , and think the lotus position and others are to focus the mind on the body on control etc... aside from the asana of course.
One doesnt need to kneel to pray , for example , but the association is there .... kneeling with hands joined = praying.
It can also be a sign to others to leave you in peace , perhaps.....
_________________ Live your life in such a way that when your feet touch the floor in the morning Satan shudders & says 'Oh **!@%.....she's awake!!! '
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:19 am |
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NaturalMystik wrote: I lay down... The downside is risk of falling asleep.
Me too ..... 
_________________ Live your life in such a way that when your feet touch the floor in the morning Satan shudders & says 'Oh **!@%.....she's awake!!! '
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NaturalMystik
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:33 am |
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Crazyeugene wrote: If there's a risk of falling asleep then are you really meditating?.. The whole point is alertness.
If there is a risk of rain, does that mean you won't see any sun?
I'd definitely say I'm meditating. The point of my meditation isn't alertness. I like to get to a state where I can free think, mentally travel, seek guidance and have visions. The easiest way for me to reach that state is through relaxed position. In a way I'm putting my body to sleep while my mind stays awake. Sometimes the mind will fall asleep. But that's ok too...
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Crazyeugene
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:43 am |
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NaturalMystik wrote: I'd definitely say I'm meditating. The point of my meditation isn't alertness. I like to get to a state where I can free think, mentally travel, seek guidance and have visions. The easiest way for me to reach that state is through relaxed position. In a way I'm putting my body to sleep while my mind stays awake. Sometimes the mind will fall asleep. But that's ok too...
Oh, well okay, but that's actually not what I'm talking about. I'm speaking more about the yoga as talked about in the Siva Samhita, where the point of meditation is to train the will of the mind. With this kind of meditation, alertness is of the utmost importance, and the freedom of one's thoughts is the last thing desirable; rather one wants to be able to focus the thoughts on this one object, so in other words one's eyes are kept open, unless one already has their third eye perfectly open which in most cases is not true for someone starting to practice in this subject. So what I mean is, what positions do people use for the type of meditation I just described above?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:04 am |
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When I started transcedental meditation (ayruveda) my parents taught me a "half lotus" pose. Basically one foot one the oposite leg and one underneath "indian style". It helped me get used to the lotus pose. Maybe it will help you too.
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