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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:48 pm
My session messed up on me! I hit the backspace and equals (to shorten the link) and it went back to the home page - - had to re-enter everything or I would have beat you by ...at least 10 seconds!
(we must be on the same wavelength!)
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:48 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:58 pm
Don't you hate when that happens...
I'll just leave them both because it was work for both of us to get it here I had my mishaps too.
Yup, great minds think alike.
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Hello, I watched this on the links today. I think as time passes the skeptics,debunkers have less and less footing. Nye doesn't impress me as the best to argue the points brought up because like was mentioned....he is not versed in the area discussed, imo. It is good to see this on mainstream though.....The idea of ufo and et are becoming accepted right before our eyes, at least it seems that way.
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:05 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:56 am
Wow! How cool is this development! It's very nice to see this in mainstream news for sure. I'm sure we will be seeing more and more of this rapidly infiltrating otherwise controlled media because hey, let's face it...Nibiru will be difficult to hide....along with all the large ships that will be showing themselves very soon. It's kinda hard to say "Ok, nothing to see here, go home and shut your doors and watch TV you silly sheeple" when outside the window there's a giant mothership with a sign on it that reads "Headed to Andromeda - All Aboard!" or "Yes, you are looking at an extraterrestrial spaceship" Let's see 'em cover THAT up!
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:34 am
Thanks for posting the youtube links, I didn't get to watch it live because the new batman movie came out. It was awesome by the way.
Anyways, from Bill Nye's position, even if there is blatant evidence starring him in the face, he cannot fold because it is his job to remain 'skeptical'. I didn't see him make one valid argument the entire debate. This kind of frustrated me.
One problem I noticed is when an emailed question asked something like 'If ETs are visiting Earth, why don't they just announce themselves to the public?'. When you walk into a room and someone is sleeping, do you greet them by announcing your presence or wait patiently for them to wake up? None of the guests considered that maybe it isn't so courteous for a more evolved ET civilization to force its presence on another lesser evolved civilization.
Also, when they were trying to speculate as to what ET intentions are, they didn't consider this obvious point: They're much more technologically advanced than us and could easily overpower our military, so then why haven't they? I would have appreciated it if someone had mentioned this. Clearly, ETs disabling multiple nuclear missiles without simultaneously launching an attack is a step towards peace on their part.
Overall it was a great show.
Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:34 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:07 am
I really enjoyed these too...and I agree that the skeptic was remaining that because he had always intended to , and therefore dissolved any argeument he started out with... ( and was as loopy as his tie! )
thanks for the posts esp for us UKeans.... great stuff JimWill and Kira ... an awesome tag team!
Some glaringly silly statements were coming from Sheeple like...
"if they are so clever ... why havent they contacted us?? "
.... who says they havent? is'nt it us that are the basic ones? or at best illiterate?
I was talking to a crab the other day.... I was ... and I have a witness that I was.... and I could have taken photographic evidence that I was....
But most would say that the crab wouldnt be aware I was , our belief system has it that he wouldnt have even known I was trying to communicate with him... and that he wouldnt have been able to take in any photo evidence as proof I was communicating to him,... so in his consciousness ,was it a reality for him that I was communicating with him?...... would the seagull have told him? or the Heron??
But in the same way... how do we know he isnt communicating with his rock pool friends before and after i looked into his pond ...and who is to say he wasnt trying to communicate with me...??
Maybe we cannot receive ET's communication through our limited sensory organs...? Sheeple assume that ET will speak to us using sound or radio waves...... or be visible in the restricted and narrow lightwave width thats visible to our limited visual receptors...eyes...
Most humans dont even have the physical ability to detect a developing tsunami without apparatus ... they need GPS to get to the shopping mall in the next city as they dont possess much built in navigational sensors ! humans can't even fly .... GAWDsake !!! BUT ... they STILL often insist that the human forms sensory system is the standard by which all other life forms would communicate.
whose says he isnt already communicating with all of us with other methods we cannot even imagine.Whose to say they are not already here , in a parallel dimension , and we walk through them , and them through us .... each day.
And.... what about Thelma , Entity , Cruiser , Kira and the many others who have witnessed experiencing alien lifeforces and/or their crafts? maybe these are the perceptive guys that can translate the information ..... give them a polygraph test ?? get real!! how offensive is that ? does she sit a polygraph to prove she loves her husband and kids ?
Sheeple act SOOOOOooo dumb at times ! ... Annu's paraphrase could well be right ... it may only be when there is a neon sign in the sky saying .... " waiting time approx one ascension at this point , pl ease wait by the red light for further assistance ... do not get out of your vehicle ..." that many people will accept there is something other than our human race.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:07 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:16 am
the science guy seems quite pasionate about being a skeptic,open your eyes sheeple you could also veiw the dissarming of warheads as a preemptive move on their end as a precautionary action if they are planing to show up on a more impressive scale. we all know sightings are on the rise, [i have seen 2 myself withen a month ] seems a wise thing to do to protect us from ourselves should global panic ensue
Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:16 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:24 am
Wow, they should have done this arguement on celebrity deathmatch instead of Larry King.
Everyone had good points but Bill Nye needs to give his head a shake. 3000 years ago, Egyptians, Romans, The People from Easter Island and many more civilizations with out ANY flight capabilties were seeing these things and documenting them on the walls of their momuments. I guess it could have been the Britonians...... or the American Indians testing there Flight technologies. or wait..... It was definately from out of this world. I hate people like him. God the evidence is right there SLAPPING YOU IN THE FACE! Oh well. Good argument tho, but this goes father back than 60 years.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:24 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:37 pm
Here's one more skeptic's opinion to toss into the fray. Guess these guys from BadAstronomy have some stake in this whole thing. I just don't get it, and I never will. If you have no interest in a subject, other than to ridicule it ... why waste your time? Wish one of those guys would answer that for me.
What really gets me - is they (debunkers) seem to think that when someone calls a flying object a UFO - automatically they believe that the person reporting it is claiming to have seen an ALIEN spacecraft!
and this little tidbit at the end had me !!
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Oh, right. The gatekeepers on the news stations dont give a fig about reality. Larry King has had all sorts of fraudulent "psychics " on his show, and UFO people, and and and. To his credit, he had Randi on once, but he still promotes all manners of irrational garbage.
Gotta love it. Having Randi on his show is to his credit
K, done ...
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:37 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:56 am
I'm really getting kind of tired of these debunker people. They must not have a clue or just don't search all the evidence. Or maybe they're paid to do it, but my god, wth are they thinking?! Do they not see that they are making themselves look like total idiots? I just don't understand it.
With all I've watched today, what i've seen and what I've read in the last 6 or 7 years, I just don't get it!
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