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Silversurfer
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Post subject: Giant impact crater found in Antarctica Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:40 am |
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This newly discovered impact crater is possibly 300 miles wide! It's also buried beneath very thick ice, which has hidden it from previous discovery.
An apparent crater as big as Ohio has been found in Antarctica. Scientists think it was carved by a space rock that caused the greatest mass extinction on Earth, 250 million years ago.
The crater, buried beneath a half-mile of ice and discovered by some serious airborne and satellite sleuthing, is more than twice as big as the one involved in the demise of the dinosaurs.
Full article here.
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Kira
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:43 am |
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 Shouldn't be so hard when you look at the moon.
I'm confused now. How many mass extinctions have there been!? I thought 'the big one' was in the gulf of Mexico?
In light of the last comet fiasco, guess we got lucky, again. When I look at SOHO I can't imagine we don't get hit more. The stuff flying all over is unreal! Some are REAL big!!! Guess we're just lucky.  for now. 
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Penthar
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:22 am |
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Quote: I'm confused now. How many mass extinctions have there been!? I thought 'the big one' was in the gulf of Mexico?
There've been a small but significant number, though paleontologists today (in the mold of two UChicago paleontologists) generally recognize the so-called "big five"--the five biggest extinction events that've ever occurred.
The one associated with the gulf of Mexico (called the K/T event because it marks the break between the Cretaceous and Tertiary periods) was certainly big by any standard--it saw the end of the dinosaurs and the Chicxulub crater marks a truly huge impact that occurred somewhere around that time. But the extinction they're talking about in this article--the Permian-Triassic extinction-- was bigger. Much bigger. This was the largest extinction event in the history of life, really breath-taking in its scope. It's difficult to even convey how catastrophic this event was but I think the image of a crater the size of Ohio would put a pretty clear face on it.
edit// You might also be interested to know that there's a fair amount of evidence piling up that we're in the middle of a mass extinction right now--one that we're causing.
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Kira
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:26 pm |
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I have no clue TC? I remember reading something about Canada and meteor impacts. Can't remeber where the link is though?
I agree with your edit Penthar. It's been awhile since a real big extinction and we're crazy enough to do it all on our own. Thanks for your explanation, cleared up some questions.
Amazing how this planet comes back after something that big.
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Oneiromancer
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Post subject: ^^ Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:16 am |
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Final Fantasy VII has a giant crator at the pole, North Cave.
The Crator is spoke of by the ancients,
an evocation meant to destroy the entire earth so that the souls of all living would die and once again be free to hop to another planet and start over again. The first encarnation of the terror from the sky, Jenova, Sephiroth.
The Legend says that the Meteor hit, but not at full force.
The majik & powers of those who loved the planet and its creation combined with the spiritual force of the dead. A massive spell called "Lifestream" covered the earth, catching the meteor in a giant embrace of energy, the impaction was slowed, and although the climates of earth and her environment were violently changed for a time, gradually things returned to normal, the new energy of destruction recycled and utilized by the earth. Ages past. History became Legend, legend became religion, religion became myth, myth became fantasy.
The scar is still accessable.
Final Fantasy VII predicts a party of heros traversing the crator to its heart this age to find the essense of the Sephiroth (of which they will be a genetic lineage to, the sephiroth a last encarnation from the age before, the race of the seventh chromosome) and will give unto it once again the power to destroy the world, a power that will be sought by every energy corporation the world over and prematurely exposed for energy resource, the corporations will evoke a terror in legends from thousands of years ago, the final heros will finally fight the full form of Sephiroth. Although, in the new movie Advent Children, we find that this encarnation is not the final, and that the defeat of this form of Sephiroth is yet another age still leading up to the age when we truly transcend.
The Meteor is a giant scar.
It was used by the Sephiros of Hebrew lore.
It was made before races can recall (pre-dinosaur?)
It is the most sensitive part of the earth.
I don't know much prophecy...
But when major corporations start to try and tap that place, no matter what the encarnation of Sephiroth turns out to be, the time after will be cataclysmic, dynamic changes in earth's systems can be expected unless the most ecologicly sound care is taken. So is its heroes and evil enemies, or metaphoric of natural disaster, the scientific recognition of this place is a real sign of the times.
That crator must be protected.
The energy must never be tapped, too many ancient traditions suggest that the crator is a stabalizing mechanism of earth. It is that way for a reason.
Global warming will no doubt begin to expose the scar.
Who knows the time, but the undoing of the crator at the pole is an ecological timebomb powerful enough to destroy the world.
If you have any interest in a sort of holistic approach to religious mysticism, Final Fantasy VII goes a long way to try and connect the various beliefs held around the world. Playing the game is a religious experience. If you don't game, at very least look up the storyline. Also, Advent Children (the end of the FFVII game) is now available, although the game should be well understood first. They are some of the first in the world to make popular prophecy connected to all the old world religions and they market the stuff as "Fantasy."
The healing power of children has saved this earth.
It will once again.
Perhaps the return of the crystal warriors really is at hand ^.~
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Oneiromancer
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:31 am |
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concerning extinction...
Some tribes believe that, aside from multiple extinctions being a natural part of growing on a planet, we have actually been through this a few times.
Some say a few planets, others categorize universally, tracing higher elements of self that we are less associated with, but still origionated close to.
Imagine a world populated like ours.
Imagine a natural disaster wipes out the vast majority of survivors, only 10,000 we shall say.
10,000 scattered randomly around the world.
out of this, there are 1,000 groups or tribes.
of this half the tribes double in size, half die out.
accordingly, this means that each of these little societies experiences a cultural extinction, & possibly even a racial one depending on the variables of time and genetics.
It is easy to see how many potential ways we can divide "cultures" because really, they don't exist, they're just groups of people stranded by environmental conditions.
now imagine 100, 000 years ago.
Humes would not even look human, as there are so many potential genetic varinces possible so long ago. Imagine those tribes.
A "great flood" could be a few hundred people, and that is your entire world.
Or it could be the entire earth engulfed in water just as easly.
When dealing with the microcosm, the potential histories exponentially increase, many more rational explanations can come up for what "extiction" really is. A meteor on one side of the planet efeects every location differently depending on its relation to the natural disaster and its byproduct disasters.
Just some thoughts on how extinction is a term relative to society size and perception of the world.
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