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I'm doing research on the subconscious, seeing how it effects our psi abilities and why would a psion want to learn about the subconscious. It turns out the topic is a big one, so here are a few questions i have come up with. If you all know anything or can answer these questions, that would be great.

How do we talk to our subconscious?
Does, and how, our subconscious effect out abilities with psi?
I've read a lot about the subconscious (and correct me if I get this wrong) seems to be mostly responible for our dream content. Is that true and if so, how does that work?
I know if you ask yourself, by thinking, to wake up at a certain time without a alarm clock, usually you will wake up at that time. Is that our subconscious doing that? How does that work?
What is the difference between doing something unconsciously and doing something subconsciously?

I don't think I understand this question. You are your subconscious and your subconscious is you.



Well, it's my theory that most psychic phenomena are actually works of the subconscious. A person's mind collating data on the subconscious level. The person isn't consciously aware that they're doing it, so to them it appears supernatural.




Generally accepted theory says that when you dream you are primarily processing thought and information with the right side of your brain. When you are awake you primarily use the left side. The right side is associated with the subconscious since most people cannot consciously access right brain thinking. The right brain is abstract instead of logical, which is why bizarre things happen in your dreams yet you are completely unable to recognize their bizareness until you wake back up into left brain processing.

It's sometimes said that people can't read in their dreams either for the same reason. You instead just "know" what something says when you see a written message. Personally though, I can genuinely read in my dreams. I see words in clear English letters. How that is, I don't know.



I would assume it works by the same mechanisms that prevent you from rolling off your bed when you're sleep near the edge, or that wake you up when you need to use the bathroom. I would presume it to be conscious instead of subconscious since you have to condition yourself to do it.





Unconsciously just means you're unaware that you're doing it. All subconscious acts are unconscious.

As far as the question of "How do we talk to our subconscious?" I presented this method to a senior citizens discussion group on spiritually a few years ago.

I suggested a coin used only for this purpose so you begin to think of it as special. Consider heads to mean 'yes' and tails to mean
'no'.

When you have a decision to make and you don't know what to do, state it in the form of a well thought out question and then flip the coin. Pay no attention to the yes or no answer of the coin, but notice your feeling when you saw the answer. If you were elated with the answer, it was correctly reflecting your subconscious; if disappointed, the answer was wrong.

I believe that by doing this, the emotion of observing the answer is a trans-liminal tool transferring the subconscious image to the linear conscious mind. Extending this a little farther, I believe this same trans-liminal process is what enables a sensitive person to translate the images of the Tarot or the I-Ching into a meaningful prediction. This seems to be the method that knowledge is gained through meditation.

This is, of course, only my opinion.

perhaps it would be better to say "how do you communicate with your subconscious?"

The reason why I ask is because of this article: http://www.psipog.net/art-communicating-with-subc.html

Rex,

Next time you read something in your dreams, look away, and then look back at. Its more than likely won't say the same thing.:B Most people can't read in dreams though, it looks jumbled or doesn't make sense.

Also, try turning a light on in your dreams, said you can't do that either. I've done it before, but the light really didn't turn on, the bulb just turned yellow.

Poppy, i like your method of coin flipping. It's a way to trigger your "intuition"without relying on its inconsistantcy.

As Rex pointed out, your subconscious comes from the Left Hemisphere of your brain which is abstract and so do your dreams. Maybe if you learn to interpret your dreams, you would better understand your subconscious? For me, i just learn to trust my gut or intuition. I believe this to be the highest form of communication u can receive from your subsconscious. Maybe others will disagree?

After reading your post I'm reminded of the HunaTrainer webpage. If you're seriously seeking answers to those questions I'd suggest you go there. They seem quite serious about these kinds of skills, and about answering the almost exact questions you posted such as "talking about the subconcious" and creating link with it and communicating to develop one's "powers". This is a quite amazing resource since there's alot of material and everything's free. They want to freely teach their methods of spiritual development.

Perhaps you're already aware of this community? I'm guessing so because of your nick but HunaTrainer was previously called JediTrainer (in honor to the concept of the Force). Their logo now is of a Jedi-figure but the name Huna represents Hawian new-age spiritual tradition they honor.

You find HunaTrainer homepage here:

http://www.hunatrainer.com/

To listen to the "first lesson", scroll to the bottom of this page:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/JediTrainerCom

thanks all. Actually I wasn't aware of them, but thank you. I think you all will really like this article.

I read the article, it was a nice read. It talks about how to communicate to your subconcious by listening to emotions from it and developing ability to translate them verbally in your mind to understand "it's commands". It proposes that you follow your "hunches" and train to become better in understanding the subconcious and not misunderstanding it to develop your intution.

More techniques have already been suggested in this thread by JonMichael and Tekture. That article talked about one method to connect and communicate with your subconcious but there are more such as dream interpretation (training better memory of dreams, or dream recall, would be necessary). The coin flipping mentioned is similar to a method talked about on HunaTrainer about using a pendulum as a tool to communicate with the subconscious.. that you could use such tool to gain link or feedback from the subconscious. Some have theorised that the ouija board works by means of the subconscious controling the hands of unknowing participants. I personally don't like anything involving indirect tool-stuff like pendulum dowsing, ouja board, coin flipping or ghost writing to communicate with the subconscious. I actually quit listening to podcasts on HunaTrainer that talked about the pendulum swinging because I just don't like that kind of method.

Another method you might find very interested and similar to the one in the article you linked is "image streaming". Instead of listening to emotions you will train yourself in listening to your subconscious in terms of the imagination. You can find alot information about this image streaming technique but if you want me to post good links I can.

Here's the article I managed to type up (although not done) I hope you all like it:

Subconscious
There is a belief that humans only use ten percent of their brain. This is a myth and has been proven wrong by science and yet, one has to wonder where and why did this myth spring up from. It is my own personal belief that one origin of that myth was an interest and lack of knowledge about the subconscious.

There are three parts to the mind. The parts are the conscious, the unconscious, and the subconscious. These three parts of the mind where first discovered by a psychologist, from the late 1800’s, named Sigmund Freud, who named the three parts of the mind the subconscious, unconscious (also known as the preconscious), and the conscious. It was Freud who suspected that psionics abilities were done by the subconscious. Many people like to think of the three parts as layers of the mind with the conscious being at the top and most aware, the subconscious being right below the conscious, and the unconscious being at the lowest part of the mind. The subconscious literally means “below the consciousâ€

Good article

Few criticisms though:





These two quotes contradict each other. I'm sure Freud didn't believe in psionics abilities but Carl Jung however, another psychologists, probably believed in them. Most psychologists wouldn't believe in psionics except parapsychologists.

Carl Jung was a student of Freud until they had differences in their theories. Jung believed in the paranormal and other possible psi aspects but Freud (who was focused more on sex and dream interpretation) was highly skeptical so they split up.
Jung coined the terms, synchronicity, archetypes, and the collective unconscious.
I think it's important to remember in discussions of these psychological areas of mind that terms like subconscious and unconscious are models and paradigms and as such do not exist in reality except as human concepts.
Kant and others spoke of this inherent problem of naming things when in reality one can never 'know' the real thing in itself.

I agree, Dr.Wu, but isn't the term conscious just as much model and paradigm? Consciousness is an intangiable as much as the subconscious.

Edited for spelling.

Yes...absolutely. They are all models when we speak of these 'intangibles' or concepts. They serve a purpose for us on several levels but in the end they could be in error or just half truths.

There was that psychic guy Casey. He said anyone could do what he was doing if they learned to tap into their subconscious and to then express it outward. In the recent past, I've read a few things that tend to refute Casey's talents, but I do tend to agree with him. I think the subconscious holds alot of information that we are not aware of; I would like to better at understanding how it works and what's in mine.

I think it all boils down to cultivating intuition for that is where you form your base in other areas with regards to obtaining access to buried psychic abilities…. Intuition is an innate ability we all have and a significant but unclaimed part of many of our lives. Most of us persistently receive its messages but decide to take no notice of them and when this happens it speaks to us a lesser amount of the time.

Feelings from intuition are never forceful or thunderous (except in times of extreme danger) so we must become skilled at listening to it carefully again. It is our bond with an infinite source of wisdom... The Cosmic unconsciousness if you will ...and I believe this relationship could be to the morphogenetic field. Albert Einstein and a good number of scientists now are of the same mind, that time is just another dimension, so it would make sense that the morphogenetic field has access to information from the past, present and future.