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 Post subject: Interesting Economic Points
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MEET THE CARLYLE GROUP
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Carlyle Group to make the best out of a collasping Economy.

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 Post subject: Re: A few economic string pullers
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Hi makahaboy_1

makahaboy_1 wrote:
MEET THE CARLYLE GROUP


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......... the Carlyle Group leaves itself open to any number of conflicts of interest and stunning ironies. For example, it is hard to ignore the fact that Osama bin Laden's family members, who renounced their son ten years ago, stood to gain financially from the war being waged against him until late October, when public criticism of the relationship forced them to liquidate their holdings in the firm.


The deception in all this is (and a lot of other operations) simply above mind boggling ........... maybe it is a case of the more mind boggling the actual deception ,the less inclined the general public will be to believe it.

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Bush border policy linked to Carlyle deal?

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THE END of NATIONAL CURRENCY

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Nobel Prize Winner Stiglitz Calls New World Bank Boss Protectionist.

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The $19 Trillion Depository Trust Company

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The general public has no knowledge of what the DTC is or what they do.

How can a private banking trust company hold assets over #19 trillion and be unknown?



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for the same reason there is more money owed (debt) than is in print, worldwide.



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Bankers Gone Bonkers
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I just love #3.
It must work out great for people that work with hazardous materials.



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Time to learn and fight back.

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Bush Administration Hides More Data, Shuts Down Website Tracking U.S. Economic Indicators.

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They stopped releasing the M3 figure's (money supply-inflation indicator) and now they don't want us to have readily accessible info. on current trends. Somethings on the way for sure...maybe sooner than later. Something they don't want us to know just how bad it's going to be.

Every program I listen to is saying to stock up food and water supplies, get a generator, start a garden and get get into precious metals instead of dollars/paper money.



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Ron Paul: Bernanke Deliberately Destroying Dollar
Feb. 27, 2008

Paul held Bernanke to task over his refusal to address the decline of the dollar and it's clear link to inflation.

"Inflation comes from the unwise increase in the supply of money credit...to argue that we can continue to debase the currency, which is really the policy of that you're following, purposely debasing value of currency - which to me seems so destructive...it just puts more pressure on the federal reserve to create capital out of thin air in order to stimulate the economy and usually that just goes into mal-investment," said Paul.

Paul highlighted the fact that the M3 money supply was rising at a rate of 16 percent and that this was the real rate of inflation.

"History is against you," Paul told Bernanke, "History is on the side of hard money - if you look at stable prices you have to look at the only historic sound money that's lasted more that a few years - fiat money always ends, gold is the only thing where you can get stable prices," he added, pointing out that despite the price of oil's rapid assent, it had remained flat when compared to the price of gold.

"I cannot see how we can continue to accept the policy of deliberately destroying the value of money as an economic value," said Paul, adding that the policy was "immoral," and would lead to a reduction in Americans living standards and "the middle class being wiped out."

Asked how he could defend a policy of deliberately depreciating the dollar, Bernanke stumbled through his response and was basically forced to agree with Paul's point.

Paul's comments come on the day that the dollar hit it's all time low against the Euro.

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Check out the link about Greenspan saying the Arab gulf states should abandon the dollar peg...with these two working against the American economy, Greenspan the former head of the Federal Reserve and Bernanke the present Fed. head, there's gotta be an act of treason somewhere in what they are/have done/said?



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THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE UNITED STATES
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March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303

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Didn't the Carlyle group introduce the US to Paper Money during the winter of 1912?? something like that..

And wheren't they also responsible for the depression in the 1920's..

This kinda thing has been going on forever.. But I think the best way to get out of a depression is to have a war.. Perhaps with the new hopeful's Clinton and Obama coming into power, they can scare the american people into continuing this war.

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I have recently read that Carlyle has gone bankrupt.


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Do you have anything in regards to Canadian Tax laws?



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Hi Makahaboy, That's some intense reading. I read it all and have an idea how to watch this myself now, thank's for the education.....



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Hi Makaboy
Thank you for the background info and links.
Wonder if this new development is link to your issue with US Federal Reserve which recently opened a new line of credit to Wall Street banks whereby it’s crazily like ‘a cash for grab’ that is extensively being used since its opening. It’s averaging $13 billion a day in loans per week and with an escalating rate. The reason given was to prop up financial markets. The US Federal Reserve has also offered to lend up to $400 billion to banks and Wall Street firms in first months. But they insist that the risk may be limited; loans are short term, of no more than 90 days and borrowers to put up collateral more than the loan’s worth.
The world economist have analyse base on present financial conditions of which at the US economy at the moment is deteriorating sharply, the US Federal Reserve could be up on potentially huge losses using the nation’s tax funded capital. So even if the masses put’s a stop on it at which time US would have far bigger economic worries than worrying central bank's balance sheet. According to Rep. Barney Frank, who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, says the current record oversize of foreclosures can be traced to unregulated sectors of the financial system.
So he proposes a bill (which is being vetoed by elements in Republican and House of Senate) to creating an agency that would have broad powers to regulate a wide range of financial institutions. Congress should consider improvements in investment bank reserve requirements and balance sheet disclosures. Currently, the Securities and Exchange Commission oversees investment banks. Source: NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, Washington.
This is very insane, why would a government deliberately give away money given the performance of what’s happening with top investments and securities companies now and following the pattern of ENRON accounting but in lenders point of view? What’s the point of possessing business assets if it’s not going to make money if the economic situation is going to deteriorate, more so if the 90 days expires? This is a colossal write-off to thousands of billions on US reserves and thus may lead to collapse an economy. This alone could have impact throughout the world even far worse off to the developing countries. There seems like a big syphoning of government money (which is tax earning) going to private (one big probable recipient could be the Depository Trust Company (DTC) above the sub-companies under its umbrella). Or is the US economy in dire need of help prior to collapse?
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I have a hard time imagining much of anything in scale lesser to mega earth changes, ETs intervening, or the 2nd coming of Christ(the person or global Christ Consciousness) being able to stop this dark agenda from coming to fruition.

What thoughts give you guys a feeling of peace, or that all will be well when thinking of the NWO type stuff??

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What thoughts give you guys a feeling of peace, or that all will be well when thinking of the NWO type stuff?


Two fine old quotations work for me:

"In the end, any people wind up with exactly the government they deserve"
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"This too shall pass".




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Hi Firey28,

Having read many of your post I think that you are messin' around with me here... :?
You know more/better than that post. :kissy:

Visit your Canadian Government websites, I'm sure you'll find much, your gov. has it's counterpart to ours.

Anomymous,

Carlyle was in serious trouble last I looked (about 2 weeks ago), they may have gone down or been bought up by now. There were reports that papa Bush went to china to get a mega-bucks loan but was turned away empty handed. Type into google search:

bush goes to china seeks Carlyle loan

Map-Reference,

Thanks, I'm sorry things are so jumbled and out of order, I get distracted a lot - trying to follow too many things at once.

aussiET,

You are on the right track concerning the new fed. res. loans.

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Firey28 wrote:
Do you have anything in regards to Canadian Tax laws?


This might be the sort of thing you are looking for....

http://www.detaxcanada.org/



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cheers makahaboy_1,

appreciate the info and links


Quote:
Peter Gabriel 'Shock the Monkey'

Wheels keep turning
Something's burning
Don't like it but I guess I'm learning

Shock! - watch the monkey get hurt, monkey


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Stock Market Manipulation-The secret maneuverings of the Plunge Protection Team (PPT)
Mike Whitney...March 5, 2007

Market Rigging

"Gaming" the system may be easier than many people believe. Robert McHugh, Ph.D. has provided a description of how it works which seems consistent with the comments of Robert Heller. McHugh lays it out like this:

"The PPT decides markets need intervention, a decline needs to be stopped, or the risks associated with political events could be perceived by markets as highly negative and cause a decline; need to be prevented by a rally already in flight. To get that rally, the PPT's key component - the Fed- lends money to surrogates who will take that fresh electronically printed cash and buy markets through some large unknown buyer's account. That buying comes out of the blue at a time when short interest is high. The unexpected rally strikes blood, and fear overcomes those who were betting the market would drop. These shorts need to cover, need to buy the very stocks they had agreed to sell (without owning them) at today's prices in anticipation they could buy them in the future at much lower prices and pocket the difference. Seeing those stocks rally above their committed selling price, the shorts are forced to buy - and buy they do. Thus, those most pessimistic about the equity market end up buying equities like mad, fueling the rally that the PPT started. Bingo, a hugh turnaround rally is underway, and sidelines money from Hedge funds, Mutual funds and individuals' rush in to join in the buying madness for several days and weeks as the rally gathers a life of it's own." (Robert McHugh, Ph.D., "The Plunge Protection Team Indicator").

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Hey Makahaboy..

I actually don't know about the connection between the Carlyle group and Canada's tax laws.. :-P

All I know for sure is that your leader puts our leader over the barrel, and tells us what to do..lol.. I stay out of the politics here.. way too depressing.

Thanks Chi_Disciple.. thats what I was looking for. It's always a little risky not paying or filing your taxes.. never know what the real deal is. :?



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Hey Makahaboy.... :-P


:DD ... :pray: ... :)



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Bear Stearns went bankrupt.


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Hmmm.. a wee bit of creative editing eh??

who is Bear Stearns?



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From Wikipedia:

"The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. (NYSE: BSC) is the parent company of Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc., one of the largest global investment banks and securities trading and brokerage firms in the world. "


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