Hi folks

I sat down at my computer today to do some creative work (for my job) and when I cleared my mind to try to think creatively I found there was something there. A subtle pressure. Something that wanted saying. By now I know this feeling well enough - it is a being wishing to use me to get a message out. So I allowed this and what follows is what came out. It may be of some use to you. I hope so.

When the channelling was done I was lead to understand by this being that the topics under discussion are huge, multifaceted issues of tremendous complexity. In the interests of getting the message out the being had taken some liberties and over-simplified some of the understandings. If you will accept this and understand that there is much, much more to all of this then, on behalf of the being, I would be grateful.

Other than that I offer my usual caveat: I am a conscious channel. I might be getting this wrong. I have no proof that what I am experiencing is what it purports to be. I appeal to you to use your own discernment to decide if this is right and true for you or not. If it is not right for you then discard it. If it IS right for you then use it because your inner truth approves - not because some ostensible being in my head says so.

I offer this in love
Zingdad

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Joy-Divine Speaks on Despair

I would speak to you today on the subject of despair. A particular despair. Those of you that live now on planet earth that look around themselves and see only cause for tears. Those of you that think the world is doomed. Those that lament their lives and lose hope. I speak to you.

My story begins with your beginning. Let me say first that you have no TRUE beginning for assuredly you are one with God and are infinite. Eternal. Immortal. But there have been many beginnings that you might choose to point to despite this. The beginning I would point you to is when your spark of consciousness first descended beyond the Veil of Unknowing. Allow me to explain. You are, each of you, a part of a great spirit. This magnificent being wished to engage in a rather remarkable and amazing experiment. It wished to know how it would be to not know what It knows. It wished to engage in a very complex experiment where It would have some of Itself go to a realm where that aspect would be able to forget that It is an indivisible part of a great spirit. Indeed that spark would forget that It is a part of All That Is. It would forget Its own essential nature and even forget what Source is. It would forget everything and THEN begin a remarkable process of self-rediscovery from this place of knowing nothing. You agreed to this. Each for Its own reason and each in Its own way, you entered this system. It is a most remarkable and complex arrangement and it would take a great deal of time and effort to explain even the rudiments of the system and how it works but the essence is this: you are doing something that in all of creation has never been done before. You are a unique pioneer in an experiment that serves all of creation. You are honoured for this. What you do now is recognised to be unbelievably difficult. You are stripped of all your knowingness and understanding and then you are blocked from using your normal tools and resources and then you are put together as babes to find your way home. We stand in amazement that you agreed to do this. Be assured the learning that comes from this is a wonder for all creation. So… yes… most of you struggle with this existence you call “life on earth”. It is clearly very difficult indeed. You create your reality but do not know it. You do not understand your tools of creation. You do not understand the nature of energy, matter or time. And yet you create your reality. A natural out flowing of unknowing is, it appears, fear. So you create with fear. This means you literally are creating for yourself the outcomes that you least want. And then, when you get that outcome and are miserable and angry. You feel like a victim. Some others turn their fear into all manner of sinister manifestations: they manipulate, control and abuse. Some of these are in positions of power. Often hidden positions… behind the scenes manipulators. And so your world comes to look quite dark indeed. And hence your despair.

Well here is the good news. Here is reason to take heart. This experiment comes to a close. A great deal of light is being expended by what you might call The Hosts of Heaven to bring you out of your misery. But this is complicated. You see free will is a rule that is not easily broken. It DOES I have to admit get bent from time to time but then imbalance is created and that imbalance must later be righted. But the point is there is the law of free will. If beings are creating a fear-filled reality for themselves then we cannot, may not and will not swoop in and take from them that which they have created and replace it with a happier reality. Much as you might ask us to it is simply so that YOU must create for yourself a reality in which we assist you. Otherwise we cannot. But there are all manner of other interventions which we can engage in. We are wily and wise. We are also able to traverse time and space in ways which you will not now comprehend, manipulate energy and matter most powerfully and enter your consciousness in the subtlest of ways. We find ways to encourage you… to hint, to nudge, to gently persuade. And the goal of all this is that you turn your faces towards the light. All of you. It is simply so that not one of you, once he or she knows what awaits beyond the veil will choose to remain on this side. You will understand that your function is fulfilled. The experiment is done. You may return home in triumph. And so we create opportunities to show you this. We assist in numerous permutations of what might be called an Ascension Process. Each of you will have the perfect process mapped out and each of you shall return to full realisation of your own beauty, power and magnificence. You will again know your oneness with All. This will take a lot of work with some. Those that are deeply buried within the illusion… those that have become particularly preoccupied with this game and are deeply wrapped in cloaks of darkness and fear. Such beings will need a little more coaxing. But you… you who now feel despair… for you it will go a lot easier. I say this simply because it is obvious that you desire change on a very deep level. You look at your world, at your life, at your reality and your heart cries “THIS IS NOT RIGHT!”. You beseech us in your own private way to come in and help. And we do. All I ask now of you is that you cease to hinder us in our attempts to be of assistance. I ask that you turn your despair to something productive. Use your pain to drive you forward. All you have to do to accomplish this is to answer this question as comprehensively as possible:
“What do you want?”
Truly. This is all you need to do. Create for yourself a complete answer to this question. If you could have any life in any reality how would it be? Now remember you must create for YOURSELF, not for others. Only for yourself. It might be that others want to create a similar reality and that you can co-create and co-habit. But those are details. For now you need to simply know what you want. How would your ideal world look? How would it operate? How would your life be? What would you do? Create your dream and colour it in. Fill it with all the details you can imagine. Do you know you cannot have what you want if you don’t know what you want? Well… now is your chance. Begin by deciding very firmly what you DO want. This is a far better strategy, I can assure you, than living in fear, getting what you don’t want and then bemoaning your fate.

Some final pointers:
1. Do not concern yourself with the journey, only the destination. By this I mean you only need to create in your mind the type of life you desire. You do not need to figure out how you will get there. This is the thing that stymies most of your creations. You begin with a wonderful dream and then immediately say “but I don’t know how to make this happen” and promptly you abandon this nascent paradise.
2. Similarly let go of any “problem thoughts” that crop up. What about my children? What about my dog? You are simply creating your own dream right now. Populate it as you wish. The final manifestation of this dream will take place such that it is in everyone’s best interests. All you need to do for now is create your ideal life.
3. Do not create a life for others in your dream that you would not wish for yourself. This type of dreaming will keep you in density. I do not recommend you dream a life where others serve you and your ego.
4. Do not create negatively. This does not work. For example do not say “in my ideal world I will not have any bad politicians”. There is no value to that statement in creation terms. Rather create positively like this: “in my ideal world all leaders will be absolutely honest and accountable,” or maybe you’d prefer: “there would be no need for government as all people would always live in their highest good and be accountable for their own actions”. Think about it how would this ideally work for you. Or maybe your ideal scenario is a small community that needs no governance. Maybe your dream reality is such that you have no concern for matters of politics – for example you may wish to simply flit from one space/time point to another like an eternal tourist of all realities. So…
“What do YOU want?”
Now create it positively. Visualise it. Experience it in your imagination. NOW you begin to assist us in our chosen role of assisting you. Now you no longer hamper us and work to keep yourself stuck in density.

And what if none of this is true? What have you lost? Try it is all I ask.

I look forward to the day when we might again meet and you might again remember that we have always known each other. Such reunions are a blessed thing indeed! Until that event I send you my love,

Joy-Divine

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Great post Zingdad.

Sorry but I am a very curious person. I have lots of questions:


The only thing that made me pause was that this experiment is unique in this universe. Usually there is nothing unique in this universe, so that is an exciting statement.

I have heard of other planets being in the same boat as us, stuck behind a veil. Is there any truth to this?

So if we were created by the Anunnaki, then each child born on Earth was incarnated by a soul from somewhere in the universe that chose to take part in this experience? In other words, none of us are souls that were brought into existence here on Earth?

Since the population is growing, who is incarnating in all these bodies? Are they other souls joining late in the experiment?

Given that there are an unfathomable number of spirits in the universe, you would think there would be more than a measly 6 billion spirits willing to take part in this experience, right? Is/was there a waiting line? Why are we here and not other spirits? Was there some sort of priority?

These are some questions I still am looking for answers to. Hopefully either you or Adamu can help me out. I appreciate you taking your time to answer me. Thanks in advance Zingdad.

Heya Anomynous

I'll happily ask your questions - let's see what we get... I think the most appropriate of my spiritual associates is Adamu so I shall address this to him.

Hello Adamu
Hello young friend
Some questions as usual, if that's okay?
Certainly. Go ahead
Will you give some clarity to the statement that this duality experiment is unique in the universe. A friend makes the contention that there is nothing unique in the universe and that this must therefore be quite an exciting exception.
Ah, yes, certainly. I would reply by asking your friend where he gets his belief that there is nothing unique in the universe. I would contend the very opposite. I would say that uniqueness is the norm. Even where there is an attempt to produce self-replicating systems it is so that Life seems to intervene with itself and consistently produce variation. I very firmly contend that on your planet of 6-billion or so people every single one of you are completely unique and in many more ways than you could care to imagine. You know no two fingerprints are the same and that little fact sometimes amazes you. But this is nothing. No two people have the same DNA. And did you know that no two cells in your body are identical. Now if you consider that there are many tens of trillions of cells in the average human body and you multiply that by the planet's populace you will discover there is something like a few hundred billion trillion absolutely unique cells walking around your planet in the form of human bodies. Now you might think this a large number of unique things. I contend that this is but a very small illustration of the point that uniqueness is the norm. If there were two identical souls anywhere in ALL THAT IS then one of them would be redundant. A replication of just one soul out of an infinity is already too much. But back to the question at hand. Yes, this particular duality/density experiment IS unique. Once it is done then all the souls that wished to try their hand at it would have done so. It will be over. All the knowledge and all the permutations and variations of experiences will be extracted from it. And all of that information will be known by All That Is. You see it is manifestly so that every single thing is an indivisible part of The One. So any experience you have is an experience God has AS YOU. So that experience is never squandered or lost. It is held precious and becomes available to all that have need of the learnings thus obtained. And so it is that your efforts, your mighty struggles to find love and peace in that very hard school are eternally valuable. The learnings and the wisdoms and the experiences thus obtained will for ever more be of use to all of creation. Can you see that you that dwell within the system provide a service of impossibly high value?
Wow. That's a whole lot of new thoughts for me. I appreciate your explanation.
The next question goes like this: I have heard of other planets being in the same boat as us, stuck behind a veil. Is there any truth to this?
Oh yes, indeed. Very much so. The veil is not cast over your planet alone. It is cast over a system of experience. I won't get unnecessarily technical, rather I will simply say that it is indeed cast over a wide range of planets but not equally so. Some planets have a thicker veil. Some planets have places where the veil thins slightly compared to other parts. And of course the veil is not cast equally over all densities of every planet. The lower you go down the density ladder the thicker the veil is likely to be. I will also say that there are very few places in Life's Experience where the veil is thicker than on your earth. There ARE others but to explain this will be a long technical story about space/time, time-lines and time paradoxes. I prefer not to get into that now. You [he is now talking specifically to me] have a recollection of a first incarnation into this experiential system. It was on a planet in the system of Lyra. The veil was cast over that planet too but you will recall that it was not nearly as thick as it is on earth. For example, there beings could not have imagined that death would be their end as you can on planet earth.
Cool, thank you Adamu. Next question. It goes: So if we were created by the Anunnaki, then each child born on Earth was incarnated by a soul from somewhere in the universe that chose to take part in this experience? In other words, none of us are souls that were brought into existence here on Earth?
Very difficult to answer this because it implies understandings which do not match my truth on the subject. Firstly you were not created by the Anunnaki. The human body is a construct with an incredibly complex history of creation and intervention. The word Anunnaki is a label of confusion. I prefer the term "Nibirans". You see "Anunnaki" means something like "space man". So back to the story. The Nibirans were simply one of many different groupings that have altered your bodies genomic nature. But they did not create your bodies any more than a farmer that hybridises a crop creates it. Your bodies have an underlying DNA structure that is of divine creation. It was seeded on planet earth by divine will. The many races of this experiential system have then all, in one way or another, added their bit to your DNA. You see what happens? You earth people are special in that only you contain a part of all the space races. Genetically you are the unified race of the whole system. You are the nexus... the point of convergence... the centre from where we shall find oneness. This is one of the reasons why you and your planet are so very crucial to the ascension of the system.
Oh my god! That is amazing information. Wow! I love that. Thank you.
Wait a minute there is more. I have yet to answer the rest of the question about the origin of your souls. Your friend has it right. No soul originated on planet earth. But this too is a complex question to address. For indeed where can one point to the origin of a thing that is eternal? Where is the beginning of God? Wherever that is, that too is your true beginning. Of course it is pleasant to tell stories which have a neat beginning for otherwise how will one begin the story? So we create new beginning points for ourselves all the time. You might wish to see yourself in the most limited possible light: as just that which experiences this incarnation. Well then YOU began at your birth. But did you spirit? No. It has experienced much else besides this life. Some like to think of "past lives" but that too is only an illusion as all time is one and all lives are simultaneous. Do you see the complexity? But I shall try to be a little less pedantic and I shall simply say this: every last earth human is indeed a part of some great spirit which first expressed itself out in the stars (or further beyond) before it expressed itself on earth. I, Adamu, am of the stars. You all are too. Indeed, we are actually all one. I am you and you are me, hard as that might be for you to comprehend right now.
Not an easy question then. The next one goes: Since the population is growing, who is incarnating in all these bodies? Are they other souls joining late in the experiment?
Oh yes, indeed there are. This is the culmination moment. This is the time, right now when the light dramatically rises to a peak. This is the ascension moment. Right now it is the easiest it has ever been for you to find your way to an awakening and for you to rise up out of your dreaming slumbers in density. There is no better time to have an incarnation if you wish to eventually leave the system. And, you see, everyone DOES want to leave the system eventually. So this is population explosion time. There are many other reasons too. For example: because this is the time of transition this is the time when earth people are most in need of all the extra loving guidance and assistance they can get. So beings that bear great light incarnate themselves into a life at this time to bring what they have to offer. And other beings come to learn, to see, to experience. What occurs right now on planet earth causes a flurry of excitement that ripples throughout a great swathe of creation. So there IS an influx but that is not the prime source of souls that incarnate now. Let me use an illustration. If a million souls all incarnate on a planet one hundred souls at a time then you will for a long time have a population of one hundred with a slow rotation of those in a discarnate state. Then, by reducing the rotation time you increase the population size until all one million souls are incarnated and you have a population of a million. At this point people ask "where did the extra souls come from". You see?
Good. Thank you. Last question. It goes: Given that there are an unfathomable number of spirits in the universe, you would think there would be more than a measly 6 billion spirits willing to take part in this experience, right? Is/was there a waiting line? Why are we here and not other spirits? Was there some sort of priority?
Another lovely question, I have enjoyed these. Alright: the answer is again complex. Firstly I should reiterate that your experiences are, after your ascension, available to all so it is not necessary for everyone to come here to gain the value of the experiment. Not everyone on earth needs to be a physicist for you to be able to get the value of quantum mechanics. That is the first point. The second point is that souls elsewhere conduct themselves as they see fit. They create their own realities and experiences. They do not necessarily wish to take part in this one. Thirdly, it is unarguably so that the direct experience of this system is usually quite a difficult and painful one. Not all beings wish to put themselves through this. The final point is that this system was invented, designed, created and populated by a particular group of beings. In your world we are often referred to by names such as "the shining ones" or "the Elohim" or such terms. It is from us that almost all the beings in this system spring. It is too long and complex a story to relate right now but if you understand that the Pleiadian civilisation is essentially a multiplicity that originally sprang forth from a unitary consciousness then you can begin to understand that it is so that all the space races in this system come from a small group of unitary consciousnesses. You on planet earth are almost exclusively of one or another of these groups. That is to say your spiritual beingness springs forth from the Elohim (with a small number of exceptions, of course that come from outside of this system).
And then finally: The population of your planet at your density as you may perceive it is about 6 billion. But that is only the smallest fraction of beings that are going to be experiencing the ascension process that you are now the focus of. It is almost a galactic experience rather than a planetary one. It affects discarnate spirit entities as well. It is an event which is vast in its scope beyond your wildest imaginings. Your planet is a tiny little portion of the system. It is true that your planet is the crux of the process but very far from being the only place to be a part of the process.
So to sum up: No there were no great queues to "get in" for the final act of the show. You must understand that all things are perfect. All is exactly as it should be. Exactly everyone that needed to participate on planet earth at this time is here. Not a soul too many or too few. If some being wished to participate, and it was appropriate and right that he or she should, then space would be made. So no, no queues. I hope that doesn't disappoint you or detract from how very special it is that you do what you do.
Thank you very much Adamu those were some really fascinating insights and are greatly appreciated.
I wish you well, young one. Spread you light as you go

And there it is. A bit of a marathon session. Thanks for the very cool questions anomynous. They elicited some answers that was really quite new and exciting to me. How do they work for you?


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Thanks Zingdad, I'm glad Adamu enjoyed those questions. I'm sure I'll come up with more... like right now

You don't have to channel for these if you know the answers yourself.

When Adamu said that we contain a part of all space races: Did he mean the DNA of all beings in the entire universe, or just all humanoid races in this galaxy specifically? All beings in the universe would be extremely perplexing that there is that much information packed into our bodies lol.

Here's a small one: What does Adamu mean specifically when he uses the term system? Solar system, galaxy, universe... ?

Cool. Let's give them a go. I'll start with the last question first. Adamu talks about an "experiential system" quite often. I have previously asked him about this and got a very long explanation. I'll summarise. First an analogy:
It is break time at school. A group of 12 friends decide to go out onto the playground and play a complicated ball-game. The game is closed to only the 12 of them and no others may join. There are other children all round them on the playground and the ball gets tossed between the others and sometimes even bounced off them but the game only actually involves the original 12. Our experiential system is like that. There were (I believe) 12 Elohim that created the space races that are pertinent to us. These are the space races that play the same game. There are other consciousnesses that we are peripherally aware of or that play some role but they are not "people" as we would think of them. Gaia, the stars, the galaxies, water, the veil... there are many things which are of consciousness which we may be aware of but do not play quite the same game we do. Then there are a VERY many more beings of consciousness which are totally irrelevant to our game. We don't even perceive their existence. Given that space and time are illusions it is so that REALLY everything is HERE right NOW. But of course that is not how we perceive it because of the rules of the game and because most of the other children on the playground are not in the game. Not in the same "experiential system" as us. Those that ARE in the same game are a relatively small number of space races that reside on - I'm guessing - a few hundred planets in our galaxy. The races are (I believe) from 12 root races but there are other ways to look at it such that there are really 6 or 3 or 1 root races. But that is confusing and I don't wish to go into that mainly because I don't QUITE get this yet myself.

Now that I've shared that understanding it is much easier to get to the first question. "We contain a part of all space races". Okay. Not really ALL space races only those within our same "experiential system". You are quite right - if we contained a bit of every space race everywhere in the whole universe I think we'd be some completely mad mix of things. No... we are just the intersection of the 12 that originally began here. Or more correctly, I think we, the 12th race, are the culmination and intersection of the other 11. I think it is so in a number of ways. DNA is the one way but there are others. For example I know that this very forum has amongst its membership people who fervently believe that they are spiritually and reincarnationally Pleiadian, Sirian, Anunnaki, Draco Reptoid or Orionian. And that's just those that I know of and just on this board. See where I'm going? I suggest that the people of planet earth, whether they know it or not, are all of one or another space race originally and they inhabit bodies that are a hybrid of space-race bodies. This really does make us the cosmic melting pot and unity point of that which is "out there" in our experiential system.

Make sense?


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Yes that does make sense, but now I have more questions. There are so many things I want to know lol. Tell me if this barrage of questions becomes overbearing.

Who were we before this recess into physicality?

If the purpose of us being on Earth was the for the veil experience, why were the other races in this galaxy created?

What do you know about other alien races outside of this galaxy and the intergalactic union?

Have you ever asked to meet Adamu in person? I'm sure it would probably be a much different experience.


P.S. Sorry for getting off-topic but I just read this:

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THEY ALSO SAID THE REAL STORY OF WHY WE ARE IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN IS NOT ABOUT OIL, IT IS ABOUT THE STARGATES!

THESE ARE ACTUAL GATES THAT ARE IMPRINTED INTO THE FLOORS OF THE ZIGGURATS. THEY ARE A SERIES OF CONCENTRIC CIRCLES THAT HAVE CUNIFORM SYMBOLS IN THEM. IN ORDER TO ACTIVATE THEM, YOU MUST TOUCH THE SYMBOLS AND BE IN A STATE OF ONENESS... THEN THEY OPEN UP AND YOU CAN TRAVEL AROUND THE UNIVERSE!

Is this true and do these stargates really exist?

Anonymous could you please cite the source for the above quote...thank-you FD


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Anonymous could you please cite the source for the above quote...thank-you FD

Read it here:

Galacticfriends

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Hey anomynous

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Tell me if this barrage of questions becomes overbearing.

No sweat, friend, I'm finding it as fascinating as you are, I'm sure. I like the way you think and your questions are good ones. It has lead to me getting info that has been quite new for me. So all good. If I run out of time then things stall a bit. If I lose interest I'll simply say so. "till then I guess we're bothing having fun and Adamu is a total sport about all this. So to the questions!...

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Who were we before this recess into physicality?

Adamu: Young friend, there is no single answer to that question when taken in its immediate context. I can say that you were beings of light before you began to choose a density experience. But that is only partially true for, indeed, you are STILL those beings of light you just no longer remember this. You imagine that you are somehow ONLY that which is physical... which is densified. It is not really so. But in the context of the illusion of a linear time flow then, yes, you were light beings that reside outside of time and space and matter constructs. Most of you were rays of the Elohim, some of you were other beings entirely. I hope that serves as an answer.

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If the purpose of us being on Earth was the for the veil experience, why were the other races in this galaxy created?

Adamu: this question is a little confused. Too many concepts fused into one thought. Your purpose is your own. You have come to earth to experience it as IT is. Other planets offer other experiences. There are shades of density and varying thicknesses of veiling. There are myriad other social structures. There are varying amounts of light (from a spiritual and metaphysical context) and then of course there are different biological constructs into which one may incarnate. It is a terribly complex subject. It's a bit like asking "what does it say on the internet?" There is no real answer. The internet says entirely different things to different people because they are approaching it differently. And so it is for all life in this galaxy. Each and every individual being is gaining an individual experience for its own individual purpose. So there is no answer in the specific. In the broadest context it is easy: all life exists to experience itself. So I can say to you that you are here to see what it is like to be here. It sounds mundane to put it like this but that is the simple truth. Or possibly I should rephrase it thus: you are here to see how you would respond to being here. More than that I cannot say. It is all up to individual experience.

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What do you know about other alien races outside of this galaxy and the intergalactic union?

Adamu: I know of an unfathomable unending complexity of life in mind-boggling variation. I know that I have looked and yet have not scratched the surface of what may yet be explored. The range of experience of life is quite simply staggering. There are races that are life which in many ways will look familiar to you and there are races of life which you would pass by and never know you had encountered each other. Life is everywhere. There is a great deal of contact between the Galactic Federation and certain races of other galaxies. There are many which are of a mind-set that is congruent with ours. We have forged ties in such instances and share ideas and information.

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Have you ever asked to meet Adamu in person? I'm sure it would probably be a much different experience.

Zingdad: yeah, I have. A little history: Adamu is an old friend of mine. My first incarnation in this system was on a planet where he was incarnated. They didn't have the same family structures we do. He was (the closest analogy) my adoptive father. Like a real father in every way except biologically. I remember him well from then and hold a great love for him. From my perspective I lost touch with him for a few lives and then remembered him again in this one. I re-established contact via this telepathic thing that I do... this channelling thing.
I have asked him for a direct physical meeting (again) and he has promised that I will have one. The time is not right yet. It is not in accordance with my own stated purpose or my own highest good that I receive THAT level of direct intervention before it is time. It rather profoundly changes someone for them to be taken up into a spaceship to meet the occupants. I have work to do before it is in the best interests of my purpose to expose myself to that. The last vestiges of doubt still serve me. It keeps me in service and keeps me "relating" to life here. So that's me. From Adamu's side they too do not wish to push the boundaries on the non-intervention codes at this point. So... soon. I shall wait.

Then your final question:

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Is this true and do these stargates really exist?

I had a whole long conversation with Adamu about this. I don't mind telling you it threw me for a loop (as you shall see). I derived info that seemed way "out there". I felt some confusion and doubt because the answers I was getting just seemed really odd to me and I had no "inner truth" on this what-so-ever. So, to get another perspective on this I first mailed this to my dear friends AnnuMella and Opalescent. The responses I received from them were that this was stuff they had resonance over and Opalescent even sent me some links to similar stuff elsewhere (which I haven't had time to follow up on but shall share anyway in case you feel a desire to go plumbing these depths). The bottom line is I am stating up front that I don't know about this. I "got it" the same way I received the other material but it is so way off the beaten track for me that I just don't know about it. I share it because the other option is for me to begin censoring what comes through my channellings of Adamu (which opens another whole can of worms for me). So, make of it what you will. You can decide if you think its true or not. I don't know.

(channelled conversation to follow...)


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double post. Sorry. I guess I liked it so much I had to say it twice!


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(...channelled conversation with Adamu)


Hello Adamu. May I ask you a question about stargates?
Hello young friend. Yes. You seem to have a penchant of late for interesting and complex questions
:-) Blame my friend anomynous.
A good question is a wonderful thing for which your friend can happily take blame then.
So to the issue of stargates. I take it they do exist?
Most certainly though it is one word which refers to many different things. It implies essentially a portal through which one may travel in order to avoid a far more onerous route of travel. Like being able to walk through a doorway that takes you from your living room to your office thereby avoiding the traffic. Just on a much larger scale.
Okay, the question was specifically about stargates in Iraq.
Ah those. I do not have first-hand knowledge of them. I mean they are not of Pleiadian construction. But I shall offer what I believe about them. The first thing is they are not true stargates. Think about the word STAR-gate. These are found inside stars. You have not the concepts in your mind of the physics involved so I will not be able to tell the story effectively but, essentially, a certain type of ship would fly into a star – like your sun – and in that way be able to navigate out of a different sun in a different system. Particular stars are linked to each other in this way. What is in Iraq, I believe, is more of a dimensional portal. There are a few of these dotted around the planet but there is a preponderance of them in Iraq, it is true.
So could you go to another planet through them.
Not directly, no. You could go to the parallel geographic location on your planet but at a different density. From there it is likely that you will, at that subtler density, be able to navigate to a different planet with greater ease that you might from your current density.
So what about the contention that one can go there now and activate them.
With great difficulty, I suspect. I reiterate that these are not Pleiadian and so I can’t know with absolute surety. But we are aware of them and have expended some effort in understanding them. So I speak under correction but with some degree of comfort that I am right. My current belief is that these are triggered by the positioning of the planet. If you understand that time (as you calculate it) is a function of your planets movement through space then one can say these are like a bank vault door that will only open a certain specific times. We expect them to be openable at a particular time in the near future. Would you care to hazard a guess when?
Not 2012, by any chance.
Close. Yes. Very soon before then.
So why?
To allow access of certain beings that are currently residing at a higher dimension.
Okay. Not Pleiadians, obviously. I’m guessing also not anyone from the Galactic Federation or you’d have more certainty. So I’m guessing this will be for the use of forces antagonistic to the Galactic Federation?
You should have been a detective <smiles>.
This is crazy? You mean enemy forces will spill from the earth in these places? This sounds like some wild Armageddon prophecy!
Funny that.
You’re serious?
You may wish to read up on your aforementioned “Armageddon prophecy” and try to substitute the word “enemy forces” for the word “demons”.
No!
Okay, this is getting a little too weird for me. I know I am channelling this but I can’t really believe what is going down here.
So you want all the information you receive to conform to what you already know or believe?
Uh. I’m going to end this channeling now. I see your point but this is just off the radar for me. Demons coming up from the ground to fight Armageddon is a bit far from the usual “we are all one” stuff that resonates more for me.
The label “demon” is not of my choosing and I would not use it but it is the one you’ll find in the relevant prophecy. That’s the only reason I use it. You see, it is so that this system is a duality system. Duality. Two sides. We are the one side and there is another. Now, ancient writers characterized us as denizens of heaven. Creatures of the light. And how else do you refer to a being which is outside of space and time and appears to you with a body constructed of pure light? Higher dimensional beings become more spirit than matter and eventually are pure light. You see? Some called us “angels”. The enemy, on the other hand, are of a lower vibration and are more physical, just as you currently are. And their appearance to your eyes can be more than a little frightening. Some called them “demons”. Maybe the pieces fall together for you now?
I don’t know. I’m not comfortable with this.
That is fine. Let it percolate.
Alright then let me ask this. If these scary looking enemy guys are going to come flooding into the world though these doors in the Middle East… what part of that should not induce fear. I mean you have told me on numerous occasions that there is nothing to fear.
And there is still nothing to fear. This occurrence is to take place in a geographically restricted area. It is foreordained. Have I not also told you that you get the reality that you create for yourself?
Yes but…
…well what are we to do with all the many beings that are hell-bent on having a “fight to the death”. If that is their choice then they have the right to experience the outcome of the reality that they create for themselves. It will not impact the lives of those that choose love. You may, if you are still on the planet at that time doing love-based service, be aware that it is occurring elsewhere but it will not be your experience unless you desire this for yourself. It is manifestly so that there is a not-insignificant portion of certain societies that wish an Armageddon battle. They will simply not be happy to suddenly move to a position of love and forgiveness of “the enemy”. So they will get their choice. It is an odd thing but the combatants on all sides (for there will be more than two sides) are all essentially making the same choices. They are choosing for anger, hatred and destruction. And, as I have said, they will get what they have chosen. Unless they chose something else between now and then.
But now you talk of humans. Where do the so-called demons come in?
There is not nearly the difference that you currently suppose there is between humans and “other” races. All beings are of consciousness. Some consciousness finds expression in lives in the lower densities. Some of the lives in the lower densities find they wish to expend themselves in a great fight. Almost without exception all sides believe they will be fighting a holy battle. Or at least a noble war. Some of the combatants will be human. Some will be reptilian. Some will be yet other races. Some will be residents of planet earth. Some will be from elsewhere.
Ah. So the so-called demons are reptilians?
Yes.
From Alpha Draconis?
No. From earth. Or at least as much from earth as humanity is. They have resided on your planet in one density or another for far longer than your current form of humanity has. They consider themselves the true “earthlings” and your mammalian form to be a Johnny-come-lately usurper. They wish to finally get rid of the usurper and take back what is theirs. The human combatants will see them as inherently evil – and hence the “demon” appellation. It is possible that the human forces will unite against a perceived common enemy or maybe there age old internecine hatreds will be too strong for this.
Unless someone lobs a nuclear device into the fray and ends all of it.
No. Those kinds of weapons will not work at that time. There will be electro-magnetic interference. Electronic equipment will be wholly unreliable.
So essentially an infantry blood-bath.
That is what will play out on the ground. But there will be other conflicts which will not occur on planet earth and need not concern you at all. One might say there will be a localized Armageddon battle on earth and another war in the heavens.
Okay, again I am feeling a little uncomfortable with this. Please don’t take offence that I terminate the channelling now. I need to think on this. Maybe get some second opinions just to make sure I’m not distorting this channelling.
The questions were yours and the answers were the best I had to give. I offer you only my love. But I understand completely and no offence is taken.
Thank you Adamu.
You are welcome. Keep spreading your light my young friend.


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(whew!)

... and now those links I promised which come to you by kind courtesy of Opalescent:

David Wilcock: Jumproom to Mars: ProjectCamelot

Dan Burisch on Stargate Secrets:
ProjectCamelot

David Wilcock, 2012 Enigma:
Video

and there it is. Now I shall rest my typing fingers. Until next time.

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WoW...that was a really intense chanelling ZingDad... No offence meant to you but that is the first of your channellings (that I have read)that I could REALLY relate too and rang true for me...it was along the lines of study that I have been doing for quite sometime...in fact the last couple weeks I have been studying some of the materials you posted!...thank you for sharing! A belief i have had is that there are a lot of light workers whos specific jobs will be to help the peoples who will be engaged in this event so even though they 'choose love' they will be engaged somewhat in this battle.....another thought i have about this is...what happens to 'one' of us happens to the 'whole'! there really is no seperation of realities...just mindsets/perspectives....
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

I trusted your channellings before, but after this one, I trust them 100%. I think you are doing a great job with the channelling, after time the information so often slowly distorts according to the will of the human involved, and I honestly don't think you've done that, despite asking several questions over the last months that your ego could've chosen to distort. Your discomfort shown in the material is a good sign- honestly, you're the first person i've met who's released channeled information even if they don't feel comfortable with it. Maybe it's where I live, maybe my area is full of these people who refuse to give the full message, or the message in all it's truth, or the full message despite not feeling power over the end answer. I don't know. But you've done that- you've expressed discomfort and uncertainty and yet delivered the message intended. Maybe some channellers don't expect to learn from those they speak to, like you do? I'm not sure. Whatever the situation seems to be, Thank you for the honesty and truth, and the valuable information. Thank you.

I don't have any particular opinion of your most recent conversation with Adamu, all I choose to do with information like this is store it and let it pop up when it's time to. However, it seems to fit in of my recent sight of the short term future (1-3 years I guess) of humanity. Also, thank you for the information about Star Gates. I knew about dimensional portals and such like, but never found out what star gates actually were, despite hearing of them for years now. I don't have any questions for Adamu, but I would request that next time you speak, please make some space for both of you to feel the thanks and love sent from us here at BoT. You've both shared so much and taken your time and energy to do this for us. So take some time to recieve some energy back from the ones who want to thank you .

Now to go back and read the rest of this post ^_^ sounds like there's a lot of conversation i've missed. I have to take BoT off my google reader and come back to the site proper- i've missed too much!

Very interesting stuff Zingdad.

I have come across this info on Reptilians before in the Alex Collier 1994 interview. He said they have been living underground on Earth for MUCH longer than us. I think it was in this interview that he said Reptilians are very ritualistic and have been sending more of themselves over to Earth every 13 years since 1947 (1947 is a coincidence? probably not, right?).

1947
1960
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1986
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2012

Maybe they're preparing for this battle? Personally, I plan on staying out of that mess. Alex Collier says they're over 12 feet tall, stronger than 10 men, and are highly telepathic so they know exactly what you are going to do way before you do it. Trying to fight that would be next to impossible.

I would like to hear more about the battle in the heavens if that is possible.

Since Earth is going to be turned into a paradise, that means that this battle won't last long, correct? If this battle will take place shortly before 2012, and Earth will be transformed in 2012, then there is some inevitable end to this battle that Adamu must know about.

Do the Reptilians know about this?

If they do then they must know that this battle is temporary, but then why would they participate? Just for sport killing? Or are they so stubborn that they will resist Earth's transformation even though it is now inevitable?

What role will the GF play in this battle? Obviously they do have the power to contain the Reptilians, correct?


Some much lighter side notes:

In one of Annumella's channelings, she mentions that life evolves depending on the time it takes for the inhabited planet to revolve around the sun. Someone also mentioned in that thread that a Nibiran son stayed on Earth for one of Nibiru's revolutions and when they came back he was aged more than his father. What about beings who live on ships out in space? At what rate do they age if they're just traveling through space?

Is there a designated meeting place for the GF? Is it a planet in our galaxy or a ship?


P.S. Zingdad I have many more questions which I have posted in Annumella's most recent channeling in the ET section, but they're not profound or relevant to this topic. They're personal questions about other human ETs that is purely curiosity. I wouldn't want to distract the thread or offend you by asking them so if you happen to wander over to her thread and have some of the same questions, maybe you can PM some answers to me.

As always I appreciate you taking the time to feed my brain lol. It's exciting for me that both you and Adamu find my questions interesting.

Well me and Mitzy's conversations are gone, but at least the rest of the thread isn't. Thank God!

Wow, thanks for the words of encouragement Faeriedragon and Dollhouse. Much appreciated. And yeah, Dollhouse, we don't see nearly enough of you around here!

FD, what you say about the experience of the one being the experience of the All is of course spot on. If there is going to be this huge bloodbath then it is all of our bloodbath. I am absolutely convinced you must be right - many beings of light will be there at the battle. They will not be there for the carnage though, they will be there to serve the All in whatever way is required.
I guess some people are spoiling for a fight with "the enemy" and will not be able to leave this density in a peaceful and loving way. I have since that channelling done some meditation about this and come to understand that this whole event is referred to in the higher realms as "the cleansing". You see this duality experience allows for the creation of much hatred. Old instinctive hatreds die hard. Through such a great battle, it seems, somehow some of those energies of hatred are burned off. Some sort of a cosmic catharsis, possibly. So anyway it seems the whole Armageddon thing serves a valuable purpose in allowing for healing and unity afterwards. Or so I now understand.

Anomynous you asked about some questions that you had posed on Annu's “Orions” thread (Here ). I prefer not to answer these questions there as my source for this type of info is Adamu and he speaks from the Pleiadian perspective - not that of Orion. So I culled the questions and imported them here.

So, to your questions!

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There's still so many miniscule questions I have about the daily lives of human ETs:

Do they have pets?
Do they shower? bathe? brush their teeth?
Do they ever use drugs?
Do they have recreational sex or just to reproduce?
How often do they eat/drink/sleep?

I'd like to know more about our similarities.

Hello Adamu
Hello beloved adoptive son
I have some questions for you again.
Go ahead.
The question is about the daily lives of extra-terrestrial entities. For example “do you have pets”
Allow me first to take a step back. The group of life-experiences that could be classified as “extra terrestrial entities” is fantastically large. May we rather refine the terms of your question to one sub-group or another?
Okay. Then just Pleiadians.
Still a bit too large a group to give really sensible answers – allow me to explain: If you refer to all life forms that spring forth from the Pleiadian soul collective then it includes everything from a large number of people currently incarnated on planet earth through to beings living in other densities and on other planets right the way up to beings of pure light that do not reside in density at all. Very difficult to answer a question if the terms of reference are so broad.
I see. Alright then how about all Pleiadians currently living on planets in the Pleiades in the lower densities.
<smiles> Good enough, lets try to answer your questions from that perspective then. The question was “do we have pets”. Yes and no. We often have very loving friendships with beings of other species but we would not consider them pets in the way you have pets. A friendship or even a partnership would be a better term for the relationship. We do not believe we have ownership of these other species. We also do not suffer the illusion that they are somehow less or inferior to us. Take dogs on earth, for example. It is true that a dog does not have the same mental abilities as a human and cannot speak your languages but what many fail to understand is that dogs are often way ahead of you in their spiritual understandings and their connection to source. The operate from a place of knowingness not the attempt to understand that characterises human life. I generalise of course about all dogs and all humans, but dogs are remarkable beings indeed. Beings of great love and great service. You will still come to be very surprised to understand the vital role dogs have played in bringing your planetary consciousness to the point it now is. So, no, we have too much respect for other beings of other species to consider them pets. But friends, partners even symbiotes, these we do have.
Cool. That sounds right to me. More respectful. I never did feel I was actually the “owner” of my dogs.
It is true that no being can own another. You can arrange a temporary illusion to feel that it might be so. But not in any real sense can any part of consciousness own another.
Okay next question. Do you cleanse your bodies and brush your teeth?
Well, we do love to bathe in water. We have always had a great love of water. Water not only cleanses the dense, material body, but also assists with cleansing on more subtle levels. Water can assist greatly in balancing energies in the spirit-body and can also help to carry away energies that no longer serve. So yes, we do bathe. We also brush our hair and sometimes place sweet-smelling oils on our skins as some of your do. We don’t however, brush our teeth. Your need to do so is a factor of a few things. We are of a consciousness that we do not need to allow that kind of decay in our bodies and therefore do not need to use toothpaste to get these bacterial proliferations under control. We do not get ill for the same reason. We are each absolutely responsible for our bodies and understand this. We do not allow other energies into our body system without a specific invitation for a specific purpose. A small percentage of earth humans are now discovering the same things for themselves. You can indeed cure yourself of any ailment with the power of your own thoughts, beliefs and emotions. We’re not saying it is easy to learn – just that it is possible.
Do you ever use drugs?
I shall assume you do not speak of “medications”? We very very seldom would require a medication to balance our bodies. Usually any imbalance would be addressed as it begins to form and would not need a medication.
If, however, you refer to psychoactive substances then the answer may be “yes”. Certain Pleiadians under certain conditions might ingest some of these substances sometimes. There is much to be understood by earth humans about such psychoactives. They do have certain bio-chemical effects but that is not what the drug’s actually does. In fact, when you partake of a drug what you are actually doing is allowing another spirit entity to cohabit your energy-space with you. Many drugs are of a negative nature because the energy-beings that are associated with them are self-serving creatures. They will ensure that you get some feeling of benefit out of the consumption of the drug so that you keep doing it but the net result is a tremendous loss of energy from you in the direction of the drug-energy-being. When you consume such a drug and allow for the concomitant energy loss you are often left with a need… a craving... to get back what you lost. Intuitively you know it is with that drug. So you consume more of the drug but are even less able to protect yourself psychically and so you lose more energy. Soon you are stuck in an addiction pattern. Such drugs are clearly of the dark and best left alone. There are however other substances, I shall use the term entheobotanicals, which may be very beneficial in the right circumstances. They can assist in the awakening process and can be used as an adjunct to psychic healing. In fact it might be that the very easiest way to break an addiction to a negative drug might be through the respectful and mindful use of one or another entheobotanical. So these certainly have their value. But this is not a path to be recommended for all. It holds many inherent risks if you do it in ignorance or with a negative attitude to yourself, your health and the life around you. We, in the Pleiades, might for very specific reasons search out one of the entheogens to assist in some process or understanding. It allows for a blurring of realities which can often be just what is needed for clear inspiration to come though. The alchemy between the enteobotanical and the consumer can often allow for powerfully creative states of mind which can be of great use. It may also allow for a shifting in the relationship between the physical body and the spirit body. Sometimes energetic illnesses can be hard to heal because of a fixed relationship between these two forms. In cases like this one may seek out a communion with a plant-friend. The good ones will treat your life and your energy with respect. You will come away from such an experience feeling healed, added to, cleansed. You will certainly not feel any addictive cravings to do it again. Quite a different experience from the negative drugs. It is a shame in your world that all these things are classed together as one.
Cool. So what about sex? For fun or only reproduction?
First drugs, now sex. You'll ask me about Rock 'n Roll next! <laughs>

For us sex is for fun. This is probably a good place to say that we Pleiaidans are known for being the most joyful of beings. We feel we are here to experience life in its most joyful terms. We make it our business to have a lot of fun with life. Sex for us is a very special intimate connection with another being who is so cherished that we wish to commingle our energies in this way. Sex is definitely for fun. Loving and respectful and intensely connected... but fun. I'd like to add that we connect consciously on many more levels that the purely physical when we have sex. It can be a much more profound experience than you currently imagine.

We do not use sex for procreation as our procreation process is a little different from yours. We bring young ones into the world in full consciousness. There's no accidents and no guesswork. So for example, if two beings made a firm, conscious choice that they would like to have a child then they must first be sure there is capacity in the community to support an additional one. We do not have overpopulation. If there is capacity then the two are given blessing to bring another into density. They do this by consulting with the spirit essence of that which wishes to enter this reality first. When all understand what is expected of them and what they wish to offer, then there is a process by which a field of energies is projected by the two parents in density and the spirit of that which will be the child. Over time there forms a morphogenic field which gains greater and greater validity and solidity. This is the physical body of the child. Soon enough the body becomes inhabited by the spirit and a new being has arrived in density. We do not gestate babies in the body of the female. There is no birth trauma only a deeply spiritual state of connection, unity and bliss. It IS very demanding and draining of the two parents but not physically damaging to anyone.
Very interesting, thank you. How often do Pleiadians eat drink and sleep.
<smiles> exactly as often as necessary. There is no fixed answer. Some beings are experiencing a greater degree of density and will consume foodstuffs for energy input much as you do. Others at more subtle levels come to understand that they may gain more and more of the energetic sustenance that they need directly as an energy input from Spirit. Less and less food is required then. Some need take no food at all but will on special occasions do so purely for the joy of the experience. It is just so with sleep. In denser states more sleep is required to allow for processing, balancing an healing. As a being rises up the densities sleep becomes unnecessary. Some will still indulge in it occasionally if they enjoy it.
Awesome, thank you very much for the chat Adamu. Before I say goodbye though, my friend, Dollhouse, says we should take a minute and receive thanks for creating these communications
That is a lovely thought. Your friend Dollhouse is a good one! We'll do so now. (we take a minute to feel that)
Well goodbye then my dear young friend. Remember – keep spreading your light!

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Okay. There it is. Anomynous, I'll have to catch your other questions next time, okay?

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Thank you for answering those questions Zingdad and Adamu, I know there were some other people in that thread who were curious about them too. Don't feel in any way obligated to answer anything I ask. I'm all out of questions now anyways, lol.

That was an interested section about drugs. I was kind of shocked when Adamu mentioned ethneobotanicals, because I just bought an ounce of Salvia leaves online for $13.45, which should get approximately 56 uses. Salvia is a plant that is grown in Mexico and is used by the Mazatecs for healing and spiritual reasons. It's legal in 46 states, so you can get ahold of it either at a shop or online. This must be one of the beneficial drugs Adamu talks about because it is not addictive or harmful, but at the same time the Mazatecs stress that it must be used responsibly. Some people have bad experiences, but I never have. I think it depends on why you are using it.

When I smoked it once last summer I had a complete 'out of body' experience. I felt like I wasn't the person that I am, like I was some other being inhabiting the body of myself. It's hard to explain but I felt it in such a very real and knowing sense. At the same time I was really content and felt a lot of love for my brother and my friend who were also there with me. Maybe this is one of the ethneogens that assists spiritually in the awakening process. No wonder the gov is trying to make it illegal.

For anyone that reads this I would highly recommend reading up on it first before trying:
Wikipedia



I actually just read a channeling which was supposedly from a future resident of the ascended Earth. In the channeling it describes very similar uses for water, among other things. If anyone is interested, the link is Here

First of all let me say that this is turning out to be a really interesting thread. The nature of it has made me curious enough to spark some questions. Firstly, to avoid confusion I am speaking from the perspective of a Pleiadian starseed, but I forgot as much as any of you when I was born here. I have also talked with Adamu a few times. I love the way its showing we are not so different I will be mostly ask about lower density Pleiadians in the Pleiades unless I specify differently.


Do you have anything like marriage? Monogamy? Polygamy?

Again with sex you guys have a lot of variety: straight, homosexual, bisexual etc? Kinks/fetishes? I bet many other Pleiadian starseeds are finding forms of self expression coming to Earth that they didn't know before.

What about holidays, ceremonies, rituals, rights, celebrations etc?

Are there a lot of religions (not textbook) philosophies etc?

Any idea why I hear this constant ringing in my ears? It wasn't like that when I was a kid, lots of other people hear it too. It turns out if I meditate on it I can hear all sorts of beautiful tones, chimes and bells. What is this?

I remember you said that you don't do the birthing process as in baby growing in mommy's belly. I can see how the mechanics of that would work in more spiritual realities, but not in the more dense 3d ones. I am aware of the mechanics of some of your spaceships being able to shift densities, and have heard about some human beings that are able to create matter from thought. Is it the same birthing process in the lower densities? Something about that process doesn't seem natural to the rules of 3 dimensional reality, I never see animals manifesting out of nowhere.

This also brings up a few more things I'm curious about. Do you know where the 3d birthing process as humans knew it first came from? It seems that the Anunaki/Nibirians had their babies the same way, does it go farther back?

And theres more about the physical nature of the humanoid body. I know its probably a bad reference but its the only one I have. Humans are very genetically similar to apes, I am thinking they (apes) also had a lot of genetics in common with the Anunaki or Pleiadians? Enough for them to make human hybrids, how could this be? Although I am aware that there is technology out there where its possible to do many things with genetics (humans having trace Draco DNA for example)

This also makes me wonder about the North American version of what people know as Bigfoot. Why wasn't it left to die in the "deluge" like all the other "subhumans" Neanderthals, cromagnan etc. I am supposing it might be a direct relative of the Earth ape that was used in developing genetics for the human body? I suppose it wouldn't have enough chromosomes to breed with humans and make viable (able to breed) offspring? I would think that if it could that the Anunaki would have been afraid of humans going back and breeding with them, genetically regressing the population like they did before (the deluge). Not that I think humans would.

Now for something more personal, but I am sure some people here are curious enough to want a step back to look at the bigger picture. Lately I have taken an interest in a different kind of spiritual development. In my past its all been about balance, but still developing on the light side. I am interested in co-developing light and dark energies, polarizing both ways and exploring them, evolution, ascension through duality, still from a service-to-others perspective. I get that this isn't a very common practice.

Everywhere you look you see beings polarizing to one side. Stereotypically you have "good light" and "evil dark" though nothing is that simple. Light can become corrupted by self righteousness etc, dark by selfish motives (which is the most common). Energy is just energy, in many ways it only develops a certain qualities and context because of the person. I am interested in developing darkness in a non corruptive way. Why is it that you get so uncomfortable when I bring up a dark spirituality in that context? I am aware you think it will distract me from my mission, the reason I was incarnated here, because free will of my spiritual development could take priority over the mission. Know that I intend to carry that out, but I feel there is so much more than that. What I am seeing is "light biased politics" that because it makes you uncomfortable, you look the other way and try to sweep it under the rug, only wanting to focus on the obvious glamorous side of light energy.

Other energies have their beauty too. It disturbs me, the way I see you viewing things, this kind of attitude/outlook can close so many potential doors for spiritual growth. Are you aware of any places that have this kind of duality without the negative problems I see on 3d Earth? I am wondering if this kind of development could keep me stuck in 3d for a while. I have a feeling that once developed I would have more control over a wider range of densities, and where I go, as opposed to someone who only polarized to one side.


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Hello Animal_Gurl, glad to see you join in on the discussion. This is by far the most interesting thread going right now. If you don't mind, I'll take a stab at some of your questions purely from what I have read and from what I know.

Animal_Gurl wrote:

Do you have anything like marriage? Monogamy? Polygamy?

I have read that there are relationship contracts where when 2 beings mesh well, they make a decision to bond together. This type of contract is beneficial for both beings involved because they grow spiritually from each other. I don't know if this is accurate.

Animal_Gurl wrote:

Are there a lot of religions (not textbook) philosophies etc?

I think religion is a 3rd density concept. Why let anyone or anything dictate what you should believe?

Animal_Gurl wrote:

Any idea why I hear this constant ringing in my ears? It wasn't like that when I was a kid, lots of other people hear it too. It turns out if I meditate on it I can hear all sorts of beautiful tones, chimes and bells. What is this?

This same thing has been happening to me for as far back as I can remember. I don't meditate (I should), but when I focus on it, it becomes louder. I can also hear it anytime I want to. I too would like to know what in God's name it is.

Animal_Gurl wrote:

This also makes me wonder about the North American version of what people know as Bigfoot.

I read that Bigfoot-esque creatures were used as workhorses for ETs (greys i think) then dumped on Earth. I have no idea how valid this is though.

They say "time is speeding up". If that means that there is less one can get to in a day then I agree. Crikey, I am just not NEARLY getting everything done to the point where I can come and hang on BoL like I like to. So apologies for not getting back to this sooner. I'm going to try to catch up as I can.

anomynous wrote:

Alex Collier says they're over 12 feet tall, stronger than 10 men, and are highly telepathic so they know exactly what you are going to do way before you do it. Trying to fight that would be next to impossible.

Cr@p! That does sound a bit hectic.
I'll ask Adamu to comment. Adamu: Yes. This information is correct. The reptilian combatants are natural warriors in a way that no human ever was. Imagine fighting a tiger with no weapons. This is a little like that. Weaponry will equal the odds a little. They are not exactly telepathic in that they don't quite read your mind - but the effect on the battlefield will be something like that. They will be entering the earth reality you inhabit from a slightly higher frequency. At this level it is possible to read the mental projections of others and get a good idea of their next movement. Human soldier would be able to do this to at that point but they will not yet be adept at it. This said it is envisaged that the human soldiers will vastly outnumber the reptilian ones. This will not be a nice place to be. You are well advised to stay clear of the area if you do not desire a "battle to the death" termination to this life experience of yours.

I would like to hear more about the battle in the heavens if that is possible.
Sure. Adamu:
This is not something I can discuss in any detail. I will say that it is so that there are beings in many realms and in many places that are not ready to return to the light. They are somewhat stuck in their ideology and believe that a change in direction is for one reason or another to abhorrent to contemplate. Maybe I can use an earthly example: religious fundamentalists of every strip who have spent a whole life-time entrenching themselves in their beliefs. To what degree are they likely to accept another view and change direction? Not very likely. No argument can shift such a being. Arguments make them all the more entrenched. So it is on earth and so it is elsewhere in this galactic system. Some with very firmly entrenched views can be brought to the light... can be brought to a position of being loving and accepting of all. Some of your religious fundamentalists may be so won over. Elsewhere things are more dire. Elsewhere there are beings that have sworn ancient blood oaths to fight and defeat the Galactic Federation or the humaoid species or whatever. There is no possible chance of us finding any kind of peaceable accommodation with them. As things flow forward there is a change in the game-plan of this whole system. It is no longer possible for us to simply maintain the status-quo with them. Sadly the only way forward is the cleansing. It will happen in many places and in different densities. There will indeed be war in the heavens. Some of it with weapons as you understand them. Some of it with energy and purpose and intent. Where cleansing is required, so it will be delivered.

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Since Earth is going to be turned into a paradise, that means that this battle won't last long, correct? If this battle will take place shortly before 2012, and Earth will be transformed in 2012, then there is some inevitable end to this battle that Adamu must know about.

Do the Reptilians know about this?

If they do then they must know that this battle is temporary, but then why would they participate? Just for sport killing? Or are they so stubborn that they will resist Earth's transformation even though it is now inevitable?

Adamu: I can't be sure exactly which of the reptilians know what. There are hierarchies. In the higher echelons they certainly do know. These beings have turned to the light. For quite some time now we have been accepting such beings to the side of the light. Many of them have come to see the futility of their position and joined us. Some have joined out of a genuine fatigue with the old ways of conflict and domination. We hope many more will defect to us still. We play a delicate game in this regard. It is an outside possibility that bloodshed can be kept to a few isolated incidents. Almost too much to hope for but that is what we aim towards. I dare say some of them know but their honour code makes them wish to die fighting anyway. The reptilians are a very honour-bound race. They live by very strict codes, some of them. I assume some do not know what awaits. Maybe they believe they can still swing things in another direction. There are indeed a few fanatics that hope to create a negative reality of this galaxy... or even this universe. They believe that they can win decisive victory on this planet and the ensuing chaos will throw the balance out completely. They are of a much lower density than we are. they do not have the capacity we do for understanding such things. They cannot succeed. But their hope and fanaticism spurs them on.

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What role will the GF play in this battle? Obviously they do have the power to contain the Reptilians, correct?

Where two opposing forces meet and wish to destroy one another we shall allow them to enact their wishes. Where a peace-loving or light-oriented group is threatened by warmongerers we shall stand in defence. We have a very carefully laid out tactical view of the situation. You have no idea, for example, how many ships are arrayed in the vicinity of your planet. We are ready for all eventualities. We have capacity and resources in abundance. This one will go our way.

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In one of Annumella's channelings, she mentions that life evolves depending on the time it takes for the inhabited planet to revolve around the sun. Someone also mentioned in that thread that a Nibiran son stayed on Earth for one of Nibiru's revolutions and when they came back he was aged more than his father. What about beings who live on ships out in space? At what rate do they age if they're just traveling through space?

Adamu: You ask possibly your most difficult question yet. Ageing is a process which is affected by very many factors. Firstly please understand that beings of a certain level of advancement simply do not age. Not as you understand it. We Pleiadians do not get physically weaker and less capable in any of our faculties with age. Quite the opposite. We grow wiser, more powerful and more able. But this is another story. Let me answer your query this way: The planet of your birth and early life is your home planet. It's rhythms are your rhythms. You always wish to act in accordance with the rhythms of home. It is also how you percieve time. If you relocate to another planet then you will over a great period of time begin to adapt to the clock of the new planet of residence. But it is a long process. Living in space does not have the same effect upon you: you are not affected by things like circadian rhythms in space. Nor by the electro-magnetic alterations of your own bodies EM field through association with the outputs of your sun. But you are very much affected by space-fatigue. Beings like us are made to dwell on a planetary surface. A life on a space-ship is hard. One feels it in many ways. But if one has a certain level of spiritual advancement one finds ways to cope. If not it may manifest in all manner of physical ailments. Beings of a higher-dimensional nature are by definition present in many locales at once and things like time and space do not have the meaning they do for you. Such beings are not troubled as you might be with matter like ageing and time and travel an space.
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Is there a designated meeting place for the GF? Is it a planet in our galaxy or a ship?

Adamu: Oh yes! The Galactic Federation is head quartered in the Sirius star system. This is quite a large organisation. Think on your own United Nations Organisation with all its sub-committees and affiliates. Now expand your view to an organisation which covers not one planet but many hundreds. The scope of work of this body is truly enormous. Most of the work is quite mundane - trade treaties and inter-galactic law and the like. Quite dry stuff really. But it is unified in its ability to raise a prodigious battle-ready fleet when necessary in a way that your UN never really has been able. There are core resolutions which the GF members stand for which are absolutely binding. We stand as one on such issues. We must if we are to ensure that certain behaviours by dark-oriented beings are to be curtailed at every turn. Forgive an old man for waxing lyrical. The Galactic Federation has always been a pet initiative of mine. I am extraordinarily proud of its accomplishments.

And that's them! I hope you enjoyed the answers. I'll get to more as soon as I am able.

Animal Gurl I'll get to yours ASAP. I'll resend that PM that never made it through soon too. Stuff has just been beyond hectic here.


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“What do YOU want?”
Now create it positively. Visualise it. Experience it in your imagination. NOW you begin to assist us in our chosen role of assisting you. Now you no longer hamper us and work to keep yourself stuck in density.

I have given this some thought over the past couple of weeks, and there is something here that I can't reconcile.

I'm acquainted with a few people who have mental handicaps. They are unable to visualize such things in this kind of detail and complexity.

What will happen to those, such as my acquaintances, who can't visualize in this manner? Will they be stuck in some weird kind of limbo? I find it hard to believe that because of their mental handicap, they would miss out on getting to participate in a positive resolution to all this.


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Hey Nebula- living with someone with severe handicaps has had me pondering this for a long time.

I'm hoping it comes down to the heart which these people. I find my sister has the purest, kindest heart i've seen. Her heart makes up for everything else that she has problems with. On the level of her love alone, I think she'd pass whatever metaphorical test it is that enables us to participate.

It does work well- even though she requires ongoing full time care, her love has meant that it doesn't hamper, her love is her payment and our reward for the care put into her. I think she does participate- not quite in the manner that we would think, putting in the context of this discussion, but her form of participation is in many ways more true to source than many of us, not to mention pure of heart and fuelled only by desire to help. Her eyes may not be so much on the potential futures, on the possibilities and on the theories of what may be coming up for us all, but her actions seem to dictate to me that these people will not get left behind if they have the pureness of heart that we see in so many of them.

Lol i'm not sure if that answered your question... but if it did than yay

Hi, I have followed Zingdad's channels.....and found myself very interested. This particular ?, about the handicapped. I actually have felt something about this and it is that in the higher vibration maybe there is no distinction......that the intention behind the personal conciousness is the factor that is determining the destination of the personality. I feel it must be the love in a persons heart and, that truly is a gift. Very good ? Nebula, I am curious also.


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On the level of her love alone, I think she'd pass whatever metaphorical test it is that enables us to participate.

And that these people will not get left behind if they have the pureness of heart that we see in so many of them.

I agree totally dollhouse....I have intermingled with a great many people with Downs Syndrome..and feel that these special people not only will not get left behind....but will be WAY out in front of the rest of us..they are a joy to be with...


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I'm hoping it comes down to the heart which these people. I find my sister has the purest, kindest heart i've seen.

I totally agree. If you are lucky to have one of these souls dwell amongst you, consider yourself lucky as you are being loved unconditionally.


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My sister had Downs Syndrome and was such a blessing to have. My mom always told me to protect her as she was an angel in disguise and she was right. She touched the lives of everyone she met and led a full and happy life. When she passed away, my family rented a small room as we thought she had a few close friends. That was a big mistake. The room was so full that we had people standing in the hall. She gave love and was well loved in return.


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Amen!

I am LOVING where this went in my absence!

I've very recently received a follow-up to the first channelling in this thread which I want to post. I think it will elucidate much. But before I post that I want to address the question of mental handicap from my perspective and understandings. A while ago I was pondering this issue. I know a guy who is the very dearest person but who is... well... extremely slow in his mental processes. If you ask him a question then you can literally see the answer developing in his head by the expressions that wend their way across his face. He'll stand there for minutes at a time and then suddenly his face lights up and he begins his answer. So, anyway, I was thinking about this. I was wondering why his spirit might have chosen to incarnate into that experience. Please forgive my arrogance at that thought - it was where I was "at", at the time. As you shall see I learned something valuable. I connected the being introduced above - Joy-Divine - and had an interesting conversation. I'll re-channel it for you now:
Me: So why would Brynn's spirit have chosen an incarnation where his is slowed?
J-D: <with a gentle smile> My dear, sweet boy. Do you imagine that YOU and not also slowed?
Me: Oh?
J-D: You reside in a density that progresses at a particular speed. Your thought processes are pitifully slow and unwieldy compared with others who are not where you are. As an example: you would not cope with receiving information if it was not very specially, and at some effort, slowed down and stepped down energetically. One of the reasons you can receive information like THIS is that I am always here helping you - translating the high speed information that you think you are "channelling" and making it available to you at the snails pace you can cope with. I strip almost all the energetic content out too for otherwise you would be emotionally overloaded by most of your channelled conversations. You see? Your experience now... your life... you are drastically slowed.
Me: Oh. So why am I doing this?
J-D: You are the aspect of me that is having that experience of life that you are having. I, as I am, could not have that experience but through having an aspect of myself drop down into that density and traverse life at that pace. Stated more simply: I could not experience THAT reality without you being there as slowed as you are.
Me: Ah. But then Brynn. Why would he slow his mental processes even more than are necessary.
J-D: He has his reasons and it is not my place to tell you his whole story now. But I will tell you something about you instead. In that world where you live you find that you have a very agile and active mind. You comfortably and easily engage in sophistry of the mind. You like thoughts and philosophies and ideas and you value intellectual pursuits quite highly. Do you not.
Me: I suppose I do.
J-D: You lessons that you came to learn this time round in this incarnation were about "truth". You came to UNDERSTAND things in this life time. Your work and challenge was in the realm of The Mind. So you equipped yourself with great tools to do this. Now, if you had a few lifetimes like this you might, I suppose get unbalanced. You might get too much "in the mind" and place all your value and development there. You might then find that you get stuck and cannot progress becasue you are not enough "in the heart". What might you do then? One option would be to return with a less capable thinking apparatus and a more capable loving apparatus. You might come,metaphorically speaking, with a truly great heart. Then you'd advance in leaps and bounds and immediately know the value of love. Do you see? You look at the incapacity of the mind of Brynn because it is what you see, what you measure and what you value. But you have not asked me another equally important question. You have not asked me "inner self, why is it that I feel less deeply and profoundly than Brynn?".

And so it went - more or less. A light-bulb moment for Zingdads. I will never again believe I am in a position to judge another's capacities to experience life.

So the bottom line is we are all handicaped a bt in some way or another. Some handicaps are more obvious than others that is all.

Please folks. What comes is not a "sorting" of the good and the bad or the capable and the incapable. What comes is a wonderful beautiful thing. Maybe my friend Brynn can't think the complex thoughts I can but sure as nuts is eggs Brynn can dream a wonderful life where everyone just loves each other and no-one is ever mean or cruel. And in THIS regard, I am sure, Brynn is a MUCH more powerful dreamer than I am. And when the change comes Brynn will be a glorious and magnificent creature of multi-dimensional light, just as I shall be. He shall then inhabit the reality of his choice. We dream now to build a new consensus reality... not just to carve for ourselves some happy little niche out in our corner of heaven. The work we do is MUCH greater than that. We work together now and for each other. But it is much easier for us each to dream our own dream than for us all to try to dream some great collaborative vision. But on higher levels that is what is happening. And if it is not your forte to dream some complex dream then maybe it is your forte to find your way to love and acceptance of self and of others. Together we do this wondrous work. Do not fear for those that seem to have less capacity. If they are beings of love then their hearts will lead them. They're doing exactly what they came to do.


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Joy-Divine Speaks on “What Next”

Dear beings. Your friend, Zingdad, has again placed his hands on the keyboard with that expectant air that does so well. I suppose I should say something or else he might sit like this all day <smiles>.

What he is wrestling with is the question of “what should we do now?” and I suspect this is a rather common theme amongst those who begin to awaken now. Certainly it is to one degree or another common to you who will read this. So much anticipation, so much expectation, so much excitement… all ballasted with a little concern a dash of confusion and maybe some scepticism. This balloon of your dreams wants to fly free but you don’t know if you should let it go quite ye. And if you did the ballast might just bring it bobbing to the ground. And you know dreams really should fly free. What weighs the heaviest on your balloon of dreams is that you really struggle with the “how” of making your dreams all come true. I spoke to you previously about dreaming. I said in that missive that you should not concern yourself with HOW you make your dreams come true but that you should simply dream the dream. It is time to add to that message with a little clarification.

I do not blame you that you struggle with simply dreaming and not concerning yourself with putting your dream into action. Your life to this point has taught you that you are to rely on yourself to action your own desires. No one will swoop in and grant you your wishes… or so you believe. This is your experience and therefore what you believe and therefore what is true for you. What I wish to appraise you of is the fact that all the rules of life as you understand them are up for review. The time of transformation is upon you. Things are beginning to change right now. All the rules for life as you understand them are beginning to flux. Your old ways of living will soon enough no longer apply. The first thing to understand is that time-lines are now beginning to diverge. I cannot get into the mechanics of this yet. My messenger, this one called Zingdad, can not be easily made to understand and relay the exceedingly complex notions involved. His thought constructs are adapted to simple and linear time-flows. For no, simply understand that what you are NOW ALREADY experiencing will not be experienced by all the others on your planet and around you. You that make a firm choice for love, for Service To Other, for personal ascension, for planetary ascension, for no violent end-of-days conflagration… you that are creatures of light… your world is changing. It changes because you do. You “en-light-en” and so your experience of your world changes. Possibly some of the most sensitive of you might have begun to note the occasional sensory or visual disturbance. Possibly you have thought you have hallucinated a little. Colours have suddenly seemed much more vivid and bright. Foodstuff gain a more vibrant taste (healthy food tastes better and unhealthy food worse). You begin to see the Life in that which you previously though to bear no life. Perhaps you have seen a rock look like it is breathing or the stars dancing in the sky. This is the first sign. A while ago this messenger received a communication from our beloved friend Adamu in which he was told that the first inkling will be visual disturbances of a mildly hallucinatory nature. I ask the messenger to go back and find that reference. [I’ll do that and post it - Zingdad] This was foretold and now it begins to occur. Be mindful of it. Expect it. It means you begin to see through the outer-skin of your reality. You see and feel the pulsations and thrumming of that which surrounds you. Expect a gentle increase in this phenomenon. You begin to really SEE. This is the first sign. What happens now is that there is a new light coming in to your life. Not light the way you understand it. Light, as in the energy of Source. It enters your reality and transforms it. It will increase as you proceed. Things will become very wondrous and beauteous indeed. Be prepared and please accept it. Please do not begin to worry about this or think that this is an aberration or something negative. It is a blessing in the highest sense of that word. It is this which will allow you very clearly and easily and with ever greater power and clarity to differentiate between that which is “for you” and that which is “not for you”. You shall see. It is given to you to aid you. Watch also your inner vision when your eyes are closed, for example at night when you prepare to sleep or during your meditations. Also watch your dreams. These might get quite interesting as you gain the Light. You may begin to see interesting things play before your closed eyes and even more so in your dreams. Then also feel what occurs in your body. The Light does not only play in your external perceptions. It plays in your body and will cause things which no longer serve you to be brought to your attention. When you have discomfort and pain then it is greatly advised that you have a warm bath to relax your body and that you find within yourself a love for your body and that you mediate and “breath-through” that discomfort. Mediate and send that which ails you love. Think upon these discomforts as that which is negative being torn free from your body. The process is not comfortable or fun but it is good news. You are releasing these things which no longer serve your experience. As long as you resist the departure of that which ails you so it will remain with you and pain you. The more you “release, let go and let God” the faster you will find great healing. Remember these things may also need to leave your body attached to physical material. You may therefore have occasional intestinal upsets too as such things find exit from your body in that manner. Allow for this. Bless and love your body for the service of the cleansing. That is what is happening now and will continue to happen. As you experience anything like this know that this is you experiencing an increase in the Light of Source.

What you should be doing now is building and refining your dreams. Create these things in your mind like a blue-print pattern. Feel, know and love your future life. Do this in whatever way works best for you. Now is NOT the time for concerning yourself with how you will get there. Please understand that you simply cannot create your path there. It is not possible. You are not living in the same world as the one in which your dreams will manifest. The path to your dreams does not exist in the world you currently inhabit. You cannot see it and will not see it and cannot create it. Let go of the conceit that you always must have the wherewithal to create everything that will play out in your life. I say again: this world that you currently inhabit is not the same world as that which your dreams will actualise in. I have mentioned that time-lines are shearing off. This means that there is a separation of realities. This is too complex to explain through this messenger. It will sound like a fist-full of paradoxes to you who are still only truly comfortable with a view that there is one world in one reality which proceeds in one direction on one timeline inhabited with one version of your being living one life. This is just not how it works but I cannot imagine how poor dear Zingdad’s head will absorb a good description of how things actually DO operate. So, for now, until I have found some pretty picture to show him so that he can get this, please simply accept that there is, from your perspective, a really wondrous but strange change coming. The process of that change has already begun. The result of this change is that you will, in the not too distant future, find your world somewhat altered. The alterations will increase and accelerate. The rules that seem to govern life on your planet will change. So you currently think: “I want life X, in X place busying my self with X avocation and providing Life with X great service.” And then you run headlong into “but how can I do this because I need Y resources to make it happen”. The point of that which I am attempting to communicate is that this is only the way it works now in your current reality. Things are going to change. Do you suppose when Heaven ordained a great shift in consciousness and an influx of the very light of the Creator that it was proposed that you should then keep struggling with the same silly little obstacles that the dark and the confused have used to manipulate you? Do you believe such little roadblocks can slow the force of Life itself? No! I say things CHANGE. They do not change subtly. They CHANGE! All we wish from you is that you work out your dreams. What value is this great magnificent life-altering change if you use all this light to manufacture a small dream with mild hopes and gentle ambitions? I am Joy-Divine! I would not associate my own personal and direct energy with this endeavour if this was all that was on the menu for you. I sacrifice and give. I am here. I am with you. And there are many other beings here with me vast in Light and consciousness and we all do great work that a magnificent outcome should be manifest. You might view such beings as great angels of light or even gods if you should perceive them. Truly they are as stars in your sky. Please believe me that your mind has not the scope in its wildest imaginings to understand how much light and energy is being bent to the task at hand. So dream your dreams. Make them bold. Fill them with colour and light. Grow them up and let them reverberate with your laughter. Have them be the very essence of love. LOVE your dreams! Cast them broad and high. If you can do ANYTHING in ANY permutation of life as you can see it… what would that be? It doesn’t need to be in just one reality either. You will, by the very definition of what comes to you now, become a being of multiple realities. Most of these are taken care of by that which you might call your “higher-self” but if you wish to put in a claim on those other realities, by all means DO SO! Do you understand? Now is not the time for small, for tame, for responsible and humble. Joy-Divine does not invite himself to a party where those are on the list of entertainments. Now is the time for large and wild and extravagant and bold!

Finally a note about the “how’s” of this thing. Just to key you in. What would happen if all those who are of a Service To Self, use-and-abuse, take-and-steal mentality just suddenly disappeared from your reality? Don’t worry about what has happened to them – they are taken care of. I mean what would happen to YOU if that share of your planet which was concerned with Service To Self was removed? How would your reality look? Suddenly you would discover that all the things which you consider to be in short supply are not. There would be abundance. You cannot comprehend how much this will be so. Not only will there be an abundance of resources, but there will not be the kind of individual that rushes in, grabs for self and makes scarce for others so that he has power. You cannot currently see to what enormous degree this distorts the availability of resources. By removing such beings from your reality you will suddenly find that there is more than enough of everything. Now look to yourself. In such a world, what would you wish to DO? I know already that your answer involves you doing some wonderful good service for other humans. This is your deepest desire: to give. Imagine that there are ONLY other such beings in your world. Imagine there is not a single human being on the entire planet with the thought in his head “give me”. Not one that wishes to take, to steal, to abuse. Not one who is thinking “where can I get what I want”. Everyone is thinking “I wish to give”. You might begin to get excited at this prospect but I daresay you will not now be able to imagine the far-reaching implications of this: You will never lack for anything but that someone will be ecstatic to give you what you need. They will just be too happy that that which they love to do is being appreciated, wanted and loved by you. Your need is a gift to them. As an example: Think how you feel when a beloved person sits at your dinner table and you have made a wonderful meal. Think when they tell you that this meal was the best they have ever eaten. They were SO hungry and now they feel wonderful and sated and their hearts and taste-buds have feasted on your gift of love. Can you see what I speak of? This will be the experience for all your interactions. Each will just love to see another relishing their gifts of love. And each will KNOW that every other is a beloved brother or sister. Each will know that all is One. There will be no strangers... only new friends, as yet unmet. Does the dream begin to catch your heart? Can you feel it? Of course you can. In your soul you have been hankering for just this reality.

Many of you will begin to make new partnerships with you avocations. For example: if it is your passion to make some product, perhaps it is another’s passion to provide that which would be your raw material and yet another’s to travel the world and share things with people. So it will go. A new economy will form. Perhaps you will still like to use counters-of-value (money) or perhaps you will not. Perhaps you will have an entirely gift-based economy. What is YOUR dream in this regard? You see why you must dream? You must know what you want… or how are we to give it to you? In reality we will not “give” it to you. In reality, by dreaming it you begin to give it to yourself. But we do fulfil a function with the energy workings behind the dreams. Again, too complicated and non-contextual for our dear Zingdad’s head.

But now I feel I have said, more or less, that which I wished to say. Finally, I wish you all to know that I am not “other” from you. I lie upon your lips when you smile, I reside in your being when you laugh, I well though your heart when you feel profound love for another. I am ever with you. I am a part of your very life’s experience. So I am not so much an “other” as another you! As is every other. This will become more and more apparent as you proceed.

I am you and you are I. I love you as I love myself.

I am your:
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I keep having net problesm so I save my long typings so as not to loose them . Just today I came across the post that I had made on this topic, even though the Topic has gone in a diffrent direction , I am still posting it.

I really dont know how to frame this but now it seems that any path i take I come up to the same place(conclusion).
If I explore spirituality I end up at ALIENS and UFO'S and if I read up on Aliens I end up at higher level of conciousness.
Mostly I wish to get clarity on 2012 what is going to happen ..we will have 2 suns?, we will have castatrophes ?, aliens coming in ?
war with aliens on earth or a chance to get into the 4th and fifth dimension ? What if i dont wish to witness any of these things ?
what If I am not ready to face the aliens or have 2 suns in the sky ? What if I dont want to be given a chance ..chose between
love and life as it is now. Basically I want to develop at my own pace I want to accept things at my own pace and not have a bomb tickin in my face
2009 2010 2011...
And what about this message , a choice given to choose love and manifest ... how does this fall in with aliens...?
About my own personal experience , I feel as if my religious beliefs dont count anymore , I feel I have been pushed and cleansed and guided and the
message I am left with is MANIFEST YOUR DESIRE , i have seen evryone around me achieving things in the old ways, traditional ways , but I am denied
this, I am told to get my goals through 'manifestations' even though this technique dosent form a part of my belief system. In fact I wrote in my diary
as to why am I the only one who has to manifest , where as others are achieivng through traditional methods.