don't know if this is a real newbie question, (please excuse me if it is).. but why does so much stuff point to 2012...i mean across lots of 'groups' or 'sects' or whatever... why 2012?

http://www.2012predictions.net/newage.htm

There are many links online to this concept. A Google will bring them up.
Most of this started with the Mayan predictions (of a possible global change) and their calendar ending at Dec 21 2012 which was discoverd by archaeologists in the past.
Since the early 70's it has become a new age fascination with many.

That Mayan connection was the first thing I heard about this and thought, "Well, they had to stop writing at SOME point!!"...but, well now I guess I've fallen in the bag with all the other nuts!

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That Mayan connection was the first thing I heard about this and thought, "Well, they had to stop writing at SOME point!!"...but, well now I guess I've fallen in the bag with all the other nuts!

Well...I'm not sure it's nutty to think that a global change is coming. Humans are due for some paradigm shifts. But will it happen suddenly in 2012 and what will it be are the big questions.

Yes, it is a big 'IF' as so many doom days have come and gone, but things sure can't keep going as is. A change might be nice.


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Hi jjfeat! Nice to meet you!

Here are my thoughts on this..

2012 may be just a date...or it may have far greater true meaning..

We do not know for sure, BUT if there are events on the horizon..we will know before 2012.

The Mayans were a very smart race..they were far from being the ignorant crowd that seems to dominate this planet now...My point being..I don't think they just decided to end it there..for no reason..the calendar was VERY accurate..and...as I said..the Mayans were above average intelligent.

There seems to be many things tied into 2012...and some do seem to involve ET.

Time will reveal all that has been kept from us..

A thought I have had..several times is..
What would cause the American government to spend money that will NEVER be repaid..It's impossible..according to numbers..Anyway...THAT in itself says ...something big is coming..and well...spend if you got..even if you don't.. They are...NOW..Why would that be?

I have my own personal feelings about..the time of 2012 or there about..IMO it will be the biggest..most important event of mankind's history...and..to put it mildly everyone's way of thinking will change after that..every body's....For me..from what I have seen and experienced.. I also know....that it will be ET..that will play a key role in this event..

Anyway..that's my


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im with kira on this one. i mean there are so many apparent doomsdays, or days of significane (however you choose to refer to them).

i'm really interested in all this (well my main interest lies in the gruop - the weavers)... but as a side thing i want to understand why everything (apparently) is linked to 2012.

i'm going to do a bit of readnig around...


thanks too for your thoughts, entity... i'll read up no the mayans too.

As far as I can see 2012 is just another date on the calendar. I think the weavers have chosen this as it has some significance to other groups but can't see why else they've gone for this specific date.

Well mate, some voice, that of a man, told me "4 more years", so I researched it, came across the 2012 prophecies. That doesn't necessarily mean any of the 2012 stuff is true, it simply means something quite different may happen to me in 2012. Well ill have to wait and see. It could have also been away of someone flicking me back on the spiritual path, who knows.

...Why has the resident 2012 guru Zingdad not jumped into this thread?



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Computer Software Says Armageddon Will Arrive in 2012:
5/1/08

Those who believe that Armageddon is a matter of only four years, finally have their fears confirmed. The Web Bot Project, a system used to predict financial trends, warns that a "worldwide calamity" is in store for 2012.

The Web Bot Project was established in the early 1990s and has been greatly developed within the rapid spread of the Internet at the onset of the twenty-first century. One of the project's main advantages is its simplicity: a programmer composes a set of words or phrases such as "crisis" or "stocks," which are later searched for on the Internet. Whenever one is traced, the system copies it and sends to the server where the word is described and explained by specialists.

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http://www.thesop.org/index.php?id=11011


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Personally aside from possible solar and earth changes, I think a lot of it is part of a MARKETING ploy. Both for positive purposes of consciousness, and negative purposes of manipulation of consciousness.

Major things will probably happen between now and 2012, undoubtedly, but even if it isn't the "be all end all", with every passing year beyond 2012, I think things will only continually speed up and get worse, if we don't take some pretty drastic measures NOW to ensure that the "blood-drinking, shape-shifting, Illuminati Reptoids" don't get to have their way with the next generation.

Not to sound melodramatic, but 2012 is a "battleground" as well as a "state of mind". It will be what you make of it, and the fight is for yesterday, tomorrow, and now.

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There seems to be many things tied into 2012...and some do seem to involve ET.

If I had to go with something "ET" I would opt for an interdimensional connection, not necessarily physical, but still able to somewhat manipulate things on our material dimension. But it's quite possible these are all manifestations of a shared psychological astral plane.



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that's the first i've heard of the webbot project... its like y2k but not... but is.

on the relevance of the date... the only bit connecting weavers with 2012 is in that piece of film thats floating about. there no other mention of it elsewhere fmo what i see

ThothMosesIII wrote:

Computer Software Says Armageddon Will Arrive in 2012:
5/1/08

Those who believe that Armageddon is a matter of only four years, finally have their fears confirmed. The Web Bot Project, a system used to predict financial trends, warns that a "worldwide calamity" is in store for 2012.

The Web Bot Project was established in the early 1990s and has been greatly developed within the rapid spread of the Internet at the onset of the twenty-first century. One of the project's main advantages is its simplicity: a programmer composes a set of words or phrases such as "crisis" or "stocks," which are later searched for on the Internet. Whenever one is traced, the system copies it and sends to the server where the word is described and explained by specialists.

I personally believe that 21 Dec 2012 holds a lot in store for us, it heralds the end of the age of Pisces and the beginning of the age Aquarius.

I also belive that it is the end times the Bible talks about, but will not happen as described in the Bible ............ it is the end of the world as we know it and not the end of the world as in there will be no more world.

What does scare me is that the PTB will hijack this event/phenomenon to their own evil agenda and perhaps engineer a few happenings of their own to co-incidentally happen at the same time .............. and ThothMoses' post above kinda confirms this

Graham


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Graham wrote:

What does scare me is that the PTB will hijack this event/phenomenon to their own evil agenda and perhaps engineer a few happenings of their own to co-incidentally happen at the same time .............. and ThothMoses' post above kinda confirms this

Graham

Hey Graham

I can't subscribe to that.

Everything I feel in my gut says that this is a time of change. It seems to me to have been planned for so long and the beings that planned it are not going to let it slide. The planet is in chaos, the North Atlantic Current is shutting down, which has dire consequences for us all.

People are waking up on a large scale as to how they have been manipulated for so long. The current situation just can't continue for much longer. I think the PTB will be forced to surrender either by external forces or by the rising voice of humanity which will reach fever pitch in a matter of years.

Just my 2 cents worth.


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Hey Buddy !!!!!!!!!!!!

person1 wrote:

Graham wrote:

What does scare me is that the PTB will hijack this event/phenomenon to their own evil agenda and perhaps engineer a few happenings of their own to co-incidentally happen at the same time .............. and ThothMoses' post above kinda confirms this

Graham

Hey Graham

I can't subscribe to that.

Everything I feel in my gut says that this is a time of change. It seems to me to have been planned for so long and the beings that planned it are not going to let it slide. The planet is in chaos, the North Atlantic Current is shutting down, which has dire consequences for us all.

People are waking up on a large scale as to how they have been manipulated for so long. The current situation just can't continue for much longer. I think the PTB will be forced to surrender either by external forces or by the rising voice of humanity which will reach fever pitch in a matter of years.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Your point taken and understood .......... and I sincerely hope you are right.

Why I have said what I have said is that I cannot see those @#$%^&*'s just sitting back and at least not trying to hijack 21 Dec 2012 and use it to further their nasty deeds.

I really hope and pray that you are right and I am wrong.

PS ............. do you mean it could be the end of the Pope

Graham


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thats really interesting graham. i mean.. if something does ahppen, then its almost perfect cover for anyone else to do stuff and claim cooincidence.. do you think itll be groups like the maons, weavers etc?

Graham wrote:

I personally believe that 21 Dec 2012 holds a lot in store for us, it heralds the end of the age of Pisces and the beginning of the age Aquarius.


Graham

Do we know this for a fact? Because I have tried to research this and from what I have found some people say it will occur on this date and other astronomers say that they do not know an exact date but it will likely occur before 2050. Because there are these contradictions I have a hard time believing most of the 2012 stories because there are so many different stories that can possibly occur on this date. Is it going to be ET's, solar cycle, planet x, armageddon...which one is it or is it none of it and 12/21/12 at 11:11 am will just be another day? I guess we just have to wait.

I think the actual date and time are not meant to be exact and specific.

I would say that by that date, or somewhere close, certain changes will have taken place and be obvious to everyone on the planet. These changes will not be one event but more a series of events that may at first seem un related but time will show that they are in fact related. A paradigm shift such as what we are going to experience can't be done in a single instantaneous act.

That is my take on it anyhow.


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Hey Graham! Good to see you again!

You know..I do think you are right..about other powers taking advantage of the situation to try to manipulate it, to benefit themselves..

Part of what I do know about 2012 ..what is inside me..and I have stated this a few times....is..There are lies..now...but deceit WILL run rampant even more...when the event draws more near..We will be surrounded with lies..
I feel that is part of the reason..it is important to uncover the full truth..right now..while we still can take time to try to figure it all out.

I hope you stick around for a while Graham..I have always thought of you as one of the permanent fixtures here.


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