The new Edgar Casey/Nostradamus is from Brazil - Jucelino Nobrega da Luz (or in Asia as Juseleeno Nobrurega da Roose)

Mr. Juseleeno, born in 1960(reportedly still alive in 2008), is a Brazilian who has made many predictions, and MOST have come to pass, including Princess Diana's death by car accident (which is instigated by someone near her and will probably unfortunately be written off as a car accident), 911 and the 2004 Indonesian tsunami. He sees the future in his dreams, and has an average of 3 to 9 such predictions per day. When he wakes up, he will write them down, and send warnings to those concerned. If it concerns only a normal individual, he will write a letter to warn him/her. If it is a famous person(celebrity, politician etc.), or matters concerning the public, he will not only send it to the individual himself/herself, but also related agencies, government, and media. He urged the media to publicise these predictions, but the reply always went along the lines of rejection for fear of arousing public panic.

DO YOU BELIEVE THIS



Last edited by aussiET on Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:51 am; edited 4 times in total

I guess only time will tell! Worth watching if Philippines earthquake happens next month.

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18 of July: 8.1 earthquake in Philippines

Editorial base on the sources:

Predictions of Jucelino Nobrega da Luz Jucelino Nobrega da Luz Website (note: It's in Brazilian Portugese languge)

Juseleeno Nebulega Da Roose is the most use name version in Japan, Chinese, and Southeast Asian website reference (by suspicion it was either lost in translation or the accent)

Documented accuracy
In 1996 (about 8 years prior from the event) he sent a letter to the respective countries ambassador of India, Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines about The 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake which stated an 8.9 magnitude with 10 meter tsunami on 26 /12/04 starting around Aceh. Other similar letters are unconfirmed at the moment for the preceding or impeding predictions. He was quoted by the media in Brazil to have predicted 911, Madrid and etch – along the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars (but seem adamant to be silent of the whole background event behind it), Saddam Hussein’s capture at Tikrit, and etch about certain world event headlines. But there are also documented inaccuracies such as September 2007 terror attack in Rome, 2 Turkish earthquakes or the tornado in Rio de Janeiro from 19. October 2007 that was meant to kill thousands of people; he predicted that China would begin to experience economic growth in 2008 (maybe Olympic conclusion), that China would be hit with devastating floods in February of 2008, he also failed to predict the cyclone in Burma or the earthquake in China.

3 years from 2008 - Human virus related deaths
- a new virus called ‘ALS’ or ‘Heroes’ on 2011
- strain bird flu plague H5N1 will result: starting around 2013 with 3 million deaths to 2019 with approximately 73million accumulated deaths - a 6 years period
- development of new plague stemming from the source virus on 2012
- further developmet due to intense air pollution

Argument: Regardless of these events to ever occur we can prevent this by now with what is happening to exposing the cover-up and preventing the bird-flu the chance to evolve from here
Note: Forum > Human Condition > New Threat to China Olympic > post about the CCP government’s denial and cover-up of wide spread bird flu endemic and its new evolve version

6 years from 2008 - Asteroid (2002) NT7 – later name 99942 Apophis
- discovery of Asteroid (2002) NT7 on course collision with Earth on 2014
- confirmation of 60% by 2018
- the asteroid would be called 99942 Apophis on 2029
- the chance of Earth collision is 80% by 2036 (this is the last prediction to date)

Argument: Regardless if this asteroid threat to ever to particularly happen (along with other possible space bodies that could affect Earth) we have to view in mind this is the only planet we have and the world should be able to start a science branch into solving this instead of pouring it to war activities. Only derived astrophysics science and technology would be able to avoid this to happen.

On-going development to escalate further through the years – Global warming
- Average African Temperature is 59 degrees Celsius, serious water shortage by 2010
- Bush and forest fires are rampant evidence of global warming by 2011
- Widespread desertification (turning to desert) cause by eco-imbalance through the disappearance of Amazon region by 2012 and intensifies by 2027
- Major draught and fresh water shortage in European continent on 2015
- Severe draught in Asia and Africa (resulting of famines)by 2017
- Disappearance of glaciers by 2021
- A temperature increase up to 74degrees Celsius to some regions of the world by 2024
- 80% disappearance of Antarctic ice and Alps; 300 meter rise to the world’s sea level by 2038

Argument: Regardless of these catastrophical events to ever occur we can prevent this by now with what is happening to the ecology of the planet by converting to free direct renewable energy and counter all suppression to be available (such as air and magnetic engines) and re-structuring global eco-coop to maintain food and freshwater availability and supply; and to lobby the ecological protection and balance against pro-commercialism or economic political agenda motives.
Note: Following links are to support above catalyst events may occur

31,000 Scientist Petition to Deny Global Warming as global political ploy

400 Prominent US Scientist Deny Global Warming

No Oil Shortage on the Market

Biofuel Does Not Cause Food-shortage

edit for grammar mistake



Last edited by aussiET on Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:23 am; edited 1 time in total

The above seems to have been taken from

http://www.xanga.com/LevDau/659228058/item.html


the recent Japan earthquake seems to have been predicted by him as well!



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Hi Crackpot,

The link should be at the top as well in YahooAnswers...just did an editorial submission and base research along hundreds of links and web pages but still make my own conclusion to instigate a discussion.... not plagiarise as you are concluding there...why not join and make comments or discuss a finding mate?

cheers

Crackpot wrote:

Only time can tell
The above seems to have been taken from

http://www.xanga.com/LevDau/659228058/item.html


the recent Japan earthquake seems to have been predicted by him as well!

(1) June 15 - Japanese Earthquake

(2) June 15 - Japanese Earthquake

Supporting Crackpot's update regarding Jucelino's prediction, the June 2008 Japanese earthquake did occur on this date, 15 June 2008 but even though there is a inaccurate location and earthquake strength the probability of predicting something like this to happen is a high odds to one occuring. Actual earthquake is in north of Japan rather than south central; a richter scale of 7.2 rather than 6.3, still the proximity of very unpredictable event to happen against a prior long period of length before hand to occur and let alone predict.

xanga link http://www.xanga.com/LevDau/659228058/item.html wrote:

June 2008 - magnitude 6.3 earthquake in Osaka, Japan

Disclaimer: the prior editorial (Posted: Mon jun 09, 2008 3:25 am) is base not just in xanga (there are discrepancy in that source to start with it's Jucelino Nobrega La Luz not Juseleeno Da Roos as being repeatedly stated, this article is also copied from several Japanese websites) but several webpages from different website articles (which are also copied from other sources) because of in accuracy of one sources; Jucelino's prediction have different interpretation (plus terms) and number of entries to his predictions, there is a need to summarise some of this to put a subject more understandable and highlight a topic base on someone else work of entries; note also none of the links have the same view as I wrote in arguments as well as sumanation of topics - for those are IMO and not taking or adding to those links article. The only direct copy I did in xanga is copy the 4 links already in one page for environment disaster.

To Crackpot be careful of what you post - be more accurate with your statement.

cheers

Thanks for bringing this to the board aussiET. I was wondering now that I have read it, he could pinpoint Aceh from the tsunami prediction, would he not be able to predict the epicentre of the upcoming Philippines earthquake, all I see at the moment is the Philippines, if he had this the gov. might be able to get one step ahead in that area.

Cheers Thelmadonna

For helping to keep the tread going as well being concern to the people, sadly the Philippine government had this information for a while too, but could only request for a high alert to emergency disaster recovery and relief to be priorities with the international community. But given the stress and stretch by China and Myanmar recent disaster would be very trialing for them. Lets just hope that was just a coincidental prediction and all the people on Earth should take seriousely of the message behind the predictions.

The following are small background of recent issues with the topic, just want to say sorry to Tiaka9 for overtaking his tread which he posted prior and was not aware of. And also with this post is the contradicting way of how the media's take on Jucelino’s media involvement.

Indonesian officials had taken the warnings of Jucelino which was reported and made public prior to the event, and did occur as close to his prediction

TAKE NOTE:

Previous post in BoT posted on Jun 19, 2007 at ESP & PSI >> Has anyone heard of the psychic Jucelino Nobrega Da Luz? http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopicp-157612.html

TAKE NOTE:

AFP wrote:

Another Bengkulu official, Fauzan Rahim, told state-run Antara news agency that he had seen a copy of the letter from Jucelino Nobrega da Luz, which predicted an 8.5-magnitude quake on Sumatra, but did not give an exact location. Sumatra is home to nine other provinces.

- November 20 2007 - Indonesia prepares after psychic 'predicts quake' in Bengkulu - Source:Article News

- January 04 2008 - Strong quake hits Bengkulu – Source: Article News

- February 25 2008 - Two tectonic quakes measuring 5.1 and 6.5 on the Richter Scale rocked southwest district of Mukomuku, Bengkulu, on Sunday evening.

Article News

TAKE NOTE

Japanese TV Audiences Scammed by Brazilian “Psychic” Jucelino Nobrega da Luz – Source: Article Blog & Video Also included with this video is how effective is Jucelino as a psychic detective



Last edited by aussiET on Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:46 am; edited 1 time in total

I guess he was right about the typhoon in the Phillipines for June as well.


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June 2008

Supporting Tgorrila’s post

tjgorilla wrote:

I guess he was right about the typhoon in the Phillipines for June as well.

(1)Typhoon in the Philippines

(2)Typhoon in the Philippines

Check:

June 2008 Massive floods due to hurricanes, thousands of people dead; at the same time, typhoons hit Bangladesh and the Philippines

source – xanga posted: May 29, 2008 (Jucelino Nobrega da Luz prediction)

China coping with 3rd major disaster

Floodings in Philippines from Fengshen

Translated in February 4th 2008 from - Translated by Arthur H. Fragoso – Pre-Visions to 2008

source – Pre-Visions to 2008 posted: Feb 4, 2008

Evidence of supposed to be letters with notary and registered of Predictions in 2007
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typhos mistake



Last edited by aussiET on Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:53 am; edited 3 times in total

More info:

On 10 of October 2005 Jucelino Nobrega da Luz was suing the US Government for the reward for his prediction of Saddam Hussein's capture by providing information of his whereabouts.

Background:

The US Government offered the reward of $25 million to anyone that would give information that could capture Saddam Hussein in July 2003 after US-led forces occupied Iraq.

Jucelino sent letters to the US Government from September 2001 (without reply), describing Saddam's future hiding place - a tiny cellar at a farmhouse near Tikrit. Saddam was captured that December.

He alleges that the US forces was able to have captured Saddam by the information on his letters that provided his exact location, the very hole where he was hiding in Iraq

The lawyers for Jucelino were quoted as part of his claims “that the author has an uncommon gift of having visions of things that will come to pass. ... Via dreams, he sees situations, facts that will happen in the future," in his court statement.

News Article 7 Oct 2005

Editorial:

US would be subjected to disclose ‘Project: Stargate’ the study of remote viewing due to the numbers of documentations that have been leaked to the public to establish Jucelino’s reasoning for using his information. But what would go against him would be that in his psychic visions this was the future anyway.

Before he started suing the US government he should have seen that in the future that his not going to get a cent from them...
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Optimistic Prediction about Cancer

2008

- Successful development of effective drugs for treatment of AIDS
- Successful development of effective drugs for treatment of Dengue Fever

2011

- Research into effective treatment of cancer discovered

2013

- Effective cancer treatment would be successful. (But not brain tumour).

Background:

Cancer has been recorded by the Egyptians’ since 3,000 BC in 7 papyruses translated as being ulcers and tumours of breast cancers. Another best known ancient recording of cancer was of Hippocrates and phrase the word ‘Karkinos’ for cancer (as crab). 16th century autopsies done by Harvey in 1628 and 17th century was next known serious attempt of researching of cancer as Gaspare Aseli and Claude Gendron was able to conclude surgical removals as part of treatment due to advent of microscope to further help with the studies. In 18th century pathological autopsies were performed to research cause of death in ill patients by Giovanni Morgagni 1761, also pioneered by Jean Astruc and chemist Bernard through the invention of anaesthesia had further allowed surgery and observation, as a research method. 19th century Rudolph Virchow research was able to recognized that cells, even cancerous cells, derived from other cells and as well as later concluded that cancer spread through malignant cells by German surgeon, Karl Thiersch. 20th century saw the greatest progression in cancer research such as identifying carcinogens, chemotherapy, radiation therapy and better means of diagniosis were discovered. From there the understanding base on the ancient to the late centuries previous research gave the principles and the dynamics of the disease way over to the 20th century into cellular mechanism of cell growth and divisions which was able to identify categories of cancer and type. Only by 1970 that the discovery of ‘papillomavirus’ or ‘PHV’ was identify as the cancer causing cell and for the last decades the concluded discovery via DNA sciences that cancer cell is not the concern but the DNA cells.


B17 nutritional therapy as an alternative cancer treatment that have been suppressed - all for the pursuit of the greed.

Cancer Cure of mice to Man

Heart hormones as cancer cure hope

Organ transplant medicine Cancer cure hope

Editorial:

The development of cancer knowledge to eventually be one day closer to finding a cure has been greatly hindrance in the 40’s to the present by capitalism in taking advantage of what is possibly ‘profit motivated’, only until the stage that does one in control recognises mortality and further pursue the need to advance the cure and treatment.

The real cost of ‘profiting on tragedy’ is the preventable deaths, if the research and development were allowed to develop in their natural progression without pharmaceutical and insurances thinking profit. They have manage to make our society in the global sense as a defeatist acceptance of the financial cost for the need to survive; the way medical industry are more profit driven in finding cure to sell not out of humanity; and how they treat the value of one’s life base on your ability to pay.

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Editorial:

Had been doing some reading to understand further of his work on how he comes to light with readers or curious of his works.

His publications has been numerously interpreted by interpreters and been lost in translation somewhere along the line. On top of that others have intentionally created situations that would give height of dramatic effect to his publications in order to gain attention to them. Others on the internet have altered or added rumour as a truth to an event in order to gain website or blog hits. But more of speculation is whether Jucelino is a willing victim or is part of the creating of notoriety for publicity and sell more publications and media fee to profit from.

In light of this for a normal competent person this would be gathered as somewhat of hoax; adding the inaccuracy of his predictions, the number of officials not confirming his claims compare to those that did, including letters of evidence as well as his silence to the allegations.

Jucelino’s method of prediction is similar to Edgar Casey’s dream vision (prevision as in his publications) or precognitive Psi. Nothing is factual until it happens and when it does the ‘hits’ are remembered rather than the ‘misses’ but in Jucelino’s case there seems to be more near accurate which is a very high percentages. Consider the following base on his knowledge behind his interpretations such as if the dreams contains - German, Spanish, English or Chinese speaking people and differences, identifying the nationality behind a race, geographical landmark recognition...and then those that present themselves as unchangeable that doesn’t give details and those that are with details for accuracy...and etch. And dreams are not controllable compare to induced ESP where one can call up at will.

Now in view of the facts, the governments should be taking advantage of a living Edgar Casey or Nostradamus but only after they had qualify him prior to any committing (by disproving him) and if this is dispel, they should be helping him interpret his dream with necessary resources to predict the events that are going to occur, then establish the catalyst to this and so on. Instead of Jucelino resorting to commercialise and further sell his credibility to eventually lose his gift.
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thelmadonna wrote:

I guess only time will tell! Worth watching if Philippines earthquake happens next month.

Quote:

18 of July: 8.1 earthquake in Philippines

I don't recall hearing about any earthquake in that region on that date.


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there's a peacefulness and a rage inside us all.
There's sugar, there is salt,
there's ice and there is fire in every single heart.
There are monsters, there are angels.

nebula wrote:

thelmadonna wrote:

I guess only time will tell! Worth watching if Philippines earthquake happens next month.

Quote:

18 of July: 8.1 earthquake in Philippines

I don't recall hearing about any earthquake in that region on that date. Puzzled

..................................Hey nebula...Hope you're not asking me...I just post here...
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lol No, I'm just wondering if anyone has heard any seismic news from that part of the world . . . *shrug*


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There are monsters, there are angels,
there's a peacefulness and a rage inside us all.
There's sugar, there is salt,
there's ice and there is fire in every single heart.
There are monsters, there are angels.

Maybe it's the same case as the Indonesian quake as I 'Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:46 pm' still within the 3 weeks danger period...could be as I mention above 'Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:35 pm' that he wasn't exact to what he sees in his dreams...(or maybe it all start to look the same...specially if you haven't been at that place)...be good if it's not going to happen...but come to think of it why are we thanking him for?

cheers

Re: Update to Predicted Philippine Earthquake magnitude 8.1

Editorial: I gave it another 3 weeks to see what could occur as was the case in the Indonesian prediction at Bengkulu, lucky for the Philippines that it’s a miss and anything remotely considered to be within earthquake range have been a passing passé and not of a calamity as foreseen.

Information about the earthquakes that have occurred in the month of July in the Philippines
(sources: Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology or PHIVOLCS.)



According to this a 6.0 is the highest which moves on a (slight) roll no pitch
Coincidentally there was an earthquake Saturday, 19 July 2008 near the city of Iwaki the 10th largest city on mainland Japan facing Pacific Ocean (the region of Fukushima is 145 km away from the epicentre of the earthquake) and is a very close neighbour to the Philippines and shares the ‘Ring of Fire’ continental shelf (which is a major fault line; the major source of Philippine earthquakes outside volcanic activities). A tsunami warning has been issued for some parts of Japan's eastern coast possibly of a small Tsunami in Fukushima and Miyagi.

19 July2008 Japanese Eartquake (click here)
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