Joined: Apr 13, 2007
Posts: 33
Location: The Dream World and BC Canada
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:08 pm
Hey,
From what I know I have two spirit guides, but what exactly
are they? One is a female who claims to be my psychopomp
and the other is an old zen master named Hougoku..
I've been in contact with them since last summer but could
they possibly be archetypes of my imagination? Or actual
beings from different dimensions?
Last night I did a meditation where they told me to meditate
more and to relax in serenity and peaceful calm.. I know there
is a famous author, Doreen Virtue that has angel therapy
books, but could this stuff be real or figments of imagination?
Strongguy
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:08 pm
Newbs Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:45 pm
Hi Strongguy
Your spirit guides are your own personal experiences in your own state of consciousness , so no one else can truly say who or what they are...
I can understand that you would want to investigate , and understand who or what they are..but there is a universe of possibilities beyond the Angel Therapy guides as per Ms Virtue.
There are many members' postings that relate to guides and similar experiences , also those that channel information too.Have a read through these , there may be some good indications or similarities you could go back to your guides with as the basis for meditation etc
I am a firm believer in meditation to calm the mind to focus when needed , or rest or stay open to allow messages.
It is a useful tool too when problems or issues arise.
Maybe you could try to confirm with the guides themselves their origin and/ or intentions.
The path to spiritual enlightment is full of suprises , and no quick fix answers or one size fits all . I am sure if you ask them for more information they will point you in the right direction for answers.
There are many people on this site with more personal experiences than I ... perhaps they can respond to you too.
blessings !
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:45 pm
NaturalMystik Oracle
Joined: Jan 04, 2007
Posts: 717
Location: The Golden Horseshoe
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:06 pm
I think spirit guides are energy manifestations from the source. They are our channel to the source and the higher mind. I think they choose their form based on archetypes of the imagination, in order to convey a certain meaning or purpose to you, ie: a zen master to teach you about your mind. If you have a 'power place' that you go to in meditation, I think you'll find someone will come and show the way. I think the form it takes will be of your own making and needs, but whether you believe you are guiding them, or that they are guided by the divine is a leap of faith...
Sounds like your on the right track. The fact that you've met them, communicated with them, and know how to find them puts you miles ahead of most others. Allow them to come to you for aid, or call on them in meditation when needed.
Have fun.
So far I think I've met three spirit guides. An old grey wizard, a tabbi cat (that dances and plays the flute!), and a black jaguar.
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:06 pm
strongguy Seeker
Joined: Apr 13, 2007
Posts: 33
Location: The Dream World and BC Canada
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:01 pm
Yeah,
Having a zen master is a good imagination representation of
finding peace in my mind and understanding zen better.. He
took care of me last summer when I was super sick from an
accidental hallucinogenic overdose..
As for the female, during the same hallucinogenic overdose
trip, I remember calling out for help in the mirror and her
voice asking me questions that calmed me down I then
channeled her and she helped heal me thru myself..
Weird synchronicitys have happened too with both of them
and I regularly meet and talk with them in my guided
meditation cave I go too for advice and stuff..
I know that both of them offer healing, friendship and
spiritual advice as well they are there for my greatest
and highest good
Steve
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:01 pm
quetzathulu Seeker
Joined: May 26, 2008
Posts: 24
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:50 am
To sort of go along with the question in this thread:
How could I contact my Spirit Guide or channel it? To explain, I assume a Spirit Guide is what I'd be looking to channel, as there are instances in my life where I'm about to do something, and this unspoken, unbidden voice from inside me will counsel me to do otherwise.
Now I know this isn't my conscience speaking to me, as there's a "smirk" in the voice, a kind of "attitude" that I perceive, making me think this is an independent entity and not just me telling myself to not do something.
Ex:
I'm wanting to go to dinner with friends. I have responsibilites to take care of (bills & such) that I'd be putting on the backburner if I attend. My staying in because my conscience said the paperwork was important is one thing.
I'm wanting to go to dinner with friends. Something tells me to stay in and wait things out. A hunch, but as if I'm being told this from within, by someone with a knowing smile plastered on their face. When I stay in, I get a call from long lost friend, and we end up catching up on old times. Now, this hunch to stay in couldn't have come from my conscience, and really, how could my subconscious have known I'd get the call.
That's why I'm thinking i've got this spirit guide within, and i'd like to openly contact him and make communication a 2 way deal, if you know what I'm trying to explain?
Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:50 am
Juno54 Moderator
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:22 am
Oh, this is soo up my alley. I haven't been doing any meditation & not much "communication" or chanelling for a while as LIFE has been allowing me to hide from it (just "got" that last bit). But I have to respond to these guys, just chatter, nothing deep.
quetz - I love that you have noticed the difference between yourself and one you percieve as your guide, especially noting the smirk in the voice. Well done. As for communicating with it, you already are. You will note more and more that the communication will grow without you having to think about it. Pushing the issue may push it away. The communication may be very subtle at times, as it well should be 'cause the human you still has earth-life to deal with and learn from. Let the guide be the guide for your communication. This is not to say that you cannot initiate conversation. Just ask a question lightly in your mind or out loud and a response my occur to you...and conversation begins. There are many ways the voice or voices may come, just be open. If you ask something you really want an answer to but don't "hear" a response, then maybe it is something that you must discover another way or at another time. Notice if the "answer" comes in the next few days from mundane means.
strongguy - "but could this stuff be real or figments of imagination?" 2 comments...1. What does it matter when you obviously get so much from them? 2. Imagination & reality...wow, such a fine line!! What if "imagination" is only perception of other realms, wavelengths of energy or dimensions? Your experiences are real to you, plain and simple. As for hallucinogens there has been much info. about them helping access "other dimensions" or alernate realities.
A psychopomp is a guide gor those who are dying or deceased.
I just said "Hello Hougoku" (well, Houguko actually) and at first a devillishly wise smile then a man circling his arms wildly like swimming butterfly badly while dancing & stomping to loud music. This frenetic energy seems at odds with the notion of a Zen master. I'm not sure what this is about. Is that possibly how he would see you? Oh, it might be about my mind!!
For both of you, my babbling is just babbling because your posts interested me.
Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:22 am
Juno54 Moderator
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Location: "the stars, baby, the stars"
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:27 am
Oh, just remembered what I WAS going to say, about different kinds of spirit guides. Have to pick up my kids soon & might get "carried away" with the subject so I'll leave it for later. Have fun guys.
Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:27 am
Newbs Moderator
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Location: slightly off the wall
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:23 am
I'm with Juno on a lot of what she says... ( as usual! )
but I would like to add the following....
I would say that I hear "my voice" in the following situations.. not saying this is the answer ,more like suggesting possible practical options
If I take away as much of the man- made distractions ,I can hear "them" a lot easier.... If I do the same thing over and over , the repetition occupies the physical , and allows the soul / voice / guide to be more "heard " or "seen"
1) Brisk walking initially , calming to a gentle pace , so the physical of walking is into a "habit" and occupied ... the consciousness is occupied and doesnt need constant attention , its into its habit ....and allows the other side to come through.
2) Occupy the physical body with gentle music ,sound vibrations , colours , drumming or other rhythmic vibrational energy.
3) Surround the physical body with something of natural energy , wind , rain , sun , sea , trees , anything that occupies the senses but emits a natural "beat" or "pulse"
4) Changing something , as simple as cooking , growing , burning incense , can occupy the senses and creates a catalyst of change of energy structure.
5) Study the Moon , or the sky above you and watch her change .... sky stare ....
6) Gentle massage for others or self can occupy the brain and senses , and allow the "voice" to come through.
Just to reiterate ... for me its repetition of a physical occupation of the usual five senses that quieten the physical body enough to allow the "spirit voice " to come through for me.
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