Seeing as paranormal and Occult or mystical phenomena are highly subjective...meaning that we unfortunately don't have any solid evidence...how would we then try to at least convince a skeptic to become a little more open minded?



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Alex Rondini
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Personally I don't think we need to convince skeptics. There will always be people who believe and those who don't believe.. just because a skeptic doesn't believe doesn't mean it's not real, it just means they lose out. Just as Christians have learned that even when you try to convert people to Christianity, the old ways and customs (Christmas, anyone?) prevail, most Christians who say they're Christians don't live the Christian life, etc. In the end, what's most important is that YOU believe. Why do you need evidence for the skeptics unless you yourself are one? flubb skeptics!

I didn't believe about stuff like this until something happened to me.
Im schizophrenic and it made me see some crazy things.
How and why would my mind hallucinate seeing and hearing vampires and demons telling me they were gonna chop me into pieces? where the heck did it come from? Im trying to answer that question right now. Thats why i frequent this board.

mitsurugi wrote:

I didn't believe about stuff like this until something happened to me.
Im schizophrenic and it made me see some crazy things.
How and why would my mind hallucinate seeing and hearing vampires and demons telling me they were gonna chop me into pieces? where the heck did it come from? Im trying to answer that question right now. Thats why i frequent this board.

Hi mitsurugi,

I've often wondered whether people who have been labeled "schizophrenic" are actually highly receptive to the paranormal. Unfortunately I don't know much about schizophrenia to actually say that as a true statement, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

Alex


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Doctors say its a chemical imbalance in the brain that makes you have these auditory and visual hallucinations. The strange thing is that most of us hallucinate the same things and most times they center around religion. So people will see demons or even the devil. Also a common thing is people reciting words from the bible and thinking it gives them power to ward off the demons. I did that one time.

Its hard to explain but u get these weird sensations that lead you on to thinking what you are doing is right. One time I thought I was Jesus and the sensations were leading me on. Also during my first(which was also my last) breakdown, I was in bed and all of a sudden I felt paralyzed... I felt like my soul was trapped in my body and I couldn't move anywhere. Thoughts of demons were running through my head at the time which made the experience even worse.
Next part is not for the squeamish:

More on the sensations: I didn't tell doctors this because they can't do anything.. but at one point I was lying on my couch and all of a sudden I felt like my throat was being cut, slowly. Also I felt like needles were poking through the back of my head to my eyes. It was all very sado-masochistic (sp?)
All this happened from a chemical imbalance??? Please. I think schizophrenics are receptive to seeing other dimensions.
When I was at an institute I heard so many similar stories. Everyone I met seemed so spiritual since their breakdowns. I think scientists are still trying to figure things out. I for one would like to know what they've learned... I think they owe us that.

Another thing: These entities or whatever u want to call them seemed to use my own thoughts and mind against me. I would hear the voices of my friends and family telling me evil things. I would see images from scary movies I've watched. This is why I stay away from that horror porn stuff. I don't want that stuff in my head at all.
Its like all your thoughts are mashed up together in your head and come out as hallucinations...
sorry my post is so long but i gotta get this off my chest.

Don't appologize. When it comes to dealing with issues of the mind, I think Dr's are still light years away. Let's not forget that Dr's used to use shock therapy on some patients not all that long ago. If getting this off your chest helps, then by all means.


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One of the things I've always wondered is if the makeup of our brain chemistry creates a kind of receiver of certain kinds of psychic signals, for lack of a better term.

If the brain chemistry of a schizophrenic is the right combination of chemicals, could it create a sort of portal into that person's mind? Sort of like having your front door forced open so strangers can enter and mess around.

And for people who don't seem to have these kinds of hallucinations, could it be that their brain chemistry just doesn't lend itself to being breached from the outside?

I don't know if I explained that very well. I think what I'm trying to get at is it's an interplay between inner and outer, brain chemistry and other dimensions or realities. It's just one of the things I wonder about from time to time.


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Hi Nebula, I don't disagree with you. I've often wondered myself whether people who have been labeled as Schizophrenic are actually extremely in tune with subtle entities and their influence. If you consider what people think of as "Norm" you can look at it in a sense where we have additional filters, by our own creation, that prohibits us from seeing, talking, and experiencing the paranormal. Someone who has an imbalance, per se, might not have those filters, so they are left sort of defenseless.

What do the drugs do that psychiatrists prescribe? They are, I believe, inhibitors that inhibit certain functions of the brain, thereby keeping the "hallucinations" in check.


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Hey man,

I've been diagnosed as a schizo too, and would like to offer my personal
experiences.. First of all, I have weird psychic stuff happen every day of
my life that can't be defined as 'schizo' However, I have hallucinated and
tripped balls too..

My personal take on the altered brain chemistry creates a doorway or
attunes us to different frequencies, ultimately leading into the spiritual
dimension. I've also had telepathy happen a number of times, such as
hearing what a friend would say run through my mind, a few seconds
later they would say it out loud.. That still happens..

As for demons, when I was locked in solitary confinement in jail for 2.5
months I've seen and heard them too.. Oh by the way, doctors still use
electro shock torture on our kind of people..

A friend of mine says that schizo's are the shaman of today, and another
thing I'd like to mention is focusing on the love energy, because love
always conquers evil.. Hope this helped!


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I'm diagnozed with that too
I think its a load of balls
It's funny how if you refuse an emergency blood transfusion cos of your religion, they've got to accept that, but if you claim to have had a psychic/occult/religious experience, they dismiss you as 'wacko'
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