I have a contention:
1. There are "good" ETs that would like to help and support us Earth Humans if they could. They have non-interventionist policies which mean they cannot "appear to us" unless we invite them.
2. There are "bad" ETs that want to use Earth as a resource and just take what they want with no regard for us or our needs. They do so now and have been for a good while but are greatly limited by the "good" ETs who play policeman.
3. If not for that "policing" service we would by now very likely be working as slaves on a planet that would have been converted to a mining colony.
4. The "bad" ETs have a contract with the earth's power cabals which means they cannot be entirely stopped by the "good" ETs. Until we Earth humans negate the "bad" ET contract we are stuck with it. One of the ways we can do this is by collectively inviting the "good" ET's so that we can revue "who is out there" and decide who we want to do business with.

This contention seems to be a theme across numerous channelled messages (including my own) and from a small number of contactee reports. If it is right then all we need to do to get the "good" guys to show - is WANT it. The problem is this: the "bad" ETs are the ones that have no problem making uninvited contact so the overwhelming majority of interactions with ETs seems to be less that happy events. So it permeates our collective consciousness that an ET appearance event would be a bad thing. And that is the purpose of this poll. I want to know on which side of the fence you sit - and why. So... do YOU want the ETs to show themselves?

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Notes:
1. Obviously the BoT community is not a balanced representation of the planet's peoples. This poll will therefore not provide data which we could extrapolate to indicate mass-consciousness. But it would be interesting to see the results anyway.
2. This has previously been discussed a good while ago - but without a poll - here. You might want to read what was said back then.


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I have trouble answering this. In my book of experiences, they already have.

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Ditto to Dolphins post. Though I checked the first choice, anyway.

Since they are already here and lurking....... they may as well show themselves. I'd like to know what it's all about. Just please, no sneaky appearances when I'm least expecting it.......and preferrably when I'm in good company of others and not alone.


cruiser

Of course, the first one is what I answered, but I'm having a problem between the poll answers and the subject title. No worries though.

First off, if it's under the premise that we ALL have to invite, they're never going to show enmass because not enough people even think about it let alone know. I sure hope that's not one of the conditions.

The rest, sure I'd love the good ones to come and help get rid of this evil. It's needed so badly. It's not only the people, animals and the rest that need it, it's Gaia herself. The planet is in such bad shape. She won't tolerate any of us much longer if this all continues. (that's barring any outside forces such as meteors etc) that's pretty much out of all hands.

Otherwise yes! I'd like to meet some good ones, already met the bad ones.


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cruiser wrote:

I'd like to know what it's all about. Just please, no sneaky appearances when I'm least expecting it.......and preferrably when I'm in good company of others and not alone.

LMBFAO! My thoughts entirely Cruiser! I have thought about this when stood in my kitchen, at the sink and looking through the conservatory blinds into the garden. I often think if I saw anything appear there now I know I would become a nervous wreck, yet I so want it to happen. I only hope they write me a polite letter first to say they are going to be dropping round first, no uninvited guests please! Then I can put the kettle on, get a few biccies and hide my cat!

I voted the first as if ET has contacted our government I want to know, what right do they have to deny us the truth?

Thanks

I picked the first choice as well. It's only proper manners to announce yourself when you enter a room. Or a planet.

I chose the first although I'm aware of some theories that the contact could be staged just to establish the antichrist. All I can say is that I'm taking my chances here. I prefer to know rather than live out the rest of my life in this not to know loop listening to even more psychobabble from the professional debunkers and just for the sheer pleasure of having them to shut the f**k up.


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If the good ones are willing to help us and feel we are ready for first contact, (and not too "primitive"), then they should come.


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Hi, I am not the most comfortable cowboy with et but I have chosen the first. I really feel that there is good and bad in the et realm. My exp, not too pleasant.....its just contact with a group or species that isn't cool in my estimation. I have confidence that good et exists just as bad does......much rather meet the good guys, I think I look forward to it, I believe they exist. I am on guard though, cauze I just don't know how to discern an intention from et.


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I can't answer the poll.

I'd like to know about ETs, but couldn't make a blanket rejection of all deals and policies I don't know about. Some may be for good reason. I'd have to decide once I know.



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I voted for the first one.

I would so LOVE to see that addressed on CNN or some such thing. That would only be possible if they revealed themselves in such a way so that the mass media could NOT cover it up.

Yes, and they can come round for tea!, looking forward to saying 'i told you so' to a few people!!! it will be a really good step in our evolution when they do come. Oh yes, bring it on

Okay - a quick intermission.

This thread was locked and then taken "off line". This was becasue it was first dragged off topic and then promptly devolved into mud-slinging and some rather ugly personal attacks. Well, this is not okay. If you want to raise a topic that is not addressed by the thread then start your own thread and talk about it there. Then it's all good. If you want to make personal attacks go find another forum where they do that. It won't happen here.

So. I'm afraid I have engaged in some rather drastic surgery on this thread. I deleted the off-topic meanderings. I also deleted the personal attacks. Unapologetically. I DO however apologise to those of you that tried to calm things and make sense of what was going on. You made good, level-headed posts which, once the surgery had happened, no longer made sense. So I am truly sorry that I had to delete your posts as well. I hope you'll understand

Now that this is cleaned up - I'll remind everyone what the topic is: IF ETs are out there would you like them to show themselves. Discussion on THIS topic is once again opened...


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Oh good! I've been wanting to quote this since I saw it.

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I prefer to know rather than live out the rest of my life in this not to know loop listening to even more psychobabble from the professional debunkers and just for the sheer pleasure of having them to shut the f**k up.

That may not be what ET wants to hear, but it seems it doesn't matter what we say, think, they seem to be very selective, seems like that's a strong trait that has been passed to many species of bipedal animals.

I'd like to know if this was asked of everyone, what the answer would be. Like you said, this site (compared to the rest of the world) will be a little more biased as far as saying yes.

Being that there are so many different ET's out there....and here and since they've been here for probably even longer than we have....why would this time be any different than any other time? I can't imagine we've evolved enough to join the universe.

There have been a few, through the years, that have posted this question. Sadly I feel it's like someone knocking at the door and not many are home.


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I do wanna see other ETs here. I can see why the noninterventions policies but its also kinda hard to invite someone you don't know exists. From some peoples view all the ET encounters are negative abductions, and this other so called "proof" is some random "psychic" channellings that they wont buy. It seems like a self feeding cycle. The government/negative ETs withhold knowledge and control. How can you invite someone you don't know exists? The good ET may not exist to a whole bunch of people because there isn't enough of what they would consider proof. Though luckily I think the world is starting to wake up.


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Kira wrote:

Being that there are so many different ET's out there....and here and since they've been here for probably even longer than we have....why would this time be any different than any other time? I can't imagine we've evolved enough to join the universe.

Kira..

It is true..we do not know how long ET has been here for..certainly at least the entire existence of mankind.

There is good reason for this beingdifferent from any other time...
As things constantly change in our universe..so does our planet...It will not be able to support life forever..it has done all it can for us..

I do not think it is about us evolving in anyway shape or form..at lest not in this lifetime....It has to do with the planet..and..what there is in store..for everything on it..

We just happen to be..in that period..for what is to come..
I will add...is bigger than anything ET or man..can ever stop

As I have said before..and know it to be true....It will be the most important event of mankind's history on Earth.

If what I am saying is true..You will soon witness events that involve UFOS and ET..that will be leading up to..the big one..

What I know..is we will see more crafts..and much larger ones..and then..soon..the world will not doubt..not ever.




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I voted for salad and fries....heh, I'm hungry.


Getting serious for a moment, if ET's are on earth, or near, it would be a courteous thing for them to make themselves known publicly to the whole planet.

But I'm not a supporter of the ETH so imo it ain't likely to happen.

I don't think they understand 'courteous'.............

dr_wu wrote:

I voted for salad and fries....heh, I'm hungry.

In retrospect Dr Wu... I think I put that there just for you.


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*Gasp!* For the second time dr_wu and I are on the same side. I picked the last one too, since it was the closest thing to "none of the above" or "other".

Personally it makes no diff to me if they do or don't. It won't change diddly until/unless the human race grows up some, either way. (imo)



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I voted for salad and fries....heh, I'm hungry.

Want some vinegar with them fries? (some people eat 'em that way)

If I recall right (scrolling down) I did say...

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I can't imagine we've evolved enough to join the universe.

It doesn't matter if one believes or not, the hypothesis/theory that we are the only intellegent species with means of leaving a planet in this galaxy is a bit silly to me too.

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courteous

Surely your joking? Not everything revolves around this planet. It's a big universe out there. If all life is as we know it then somebody screwed up real bad.


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Kira wrote:

Want some vinegar with them fries? (some people eat 'em that way)

mmmmmmm mmmmmm!

Not in the states though! You should see the looks you get when asking for vinegar for your fries! Huh?!

Sorry, totally off-topic. Sort of...


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Well actually, the bar we go to is the first time I'd ever heard of it. The girl is from Missouri, I guess it's a Missouri thing?

But ah, ya...(cough) I want something to happen! How long can we continue to be in such a lost state? If there are good ET's, then they must know this law of not intervening will surely be the lose of this species? Any good ones anyways.


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What do I reckon..?...I reckon..the results of the poll speaks for itself...

Vinegar with fries ?.. a 'must' in the UK btw... ..but not those thin skittery lookin' things.. ..big..chunky chips..as we say..preferably deep fried in beef dripping..full of cholesterol..and utterly divine...


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Yep, Momma is always right! The poll seems to speak of the general consensus of this site. Of course I want to see ET arrive on my doorstep, pick me up and take me joyriding! The sooner the better too.

BTW, dipping in Mayo is the BEST way to eat fries. Second best is to drench in gravy, THEN vinegar, THEN ketchup and for good measure one must add a bit of melted cheese. It's very Poutine-like and sometimes I add Mayo to that blob too.

Fries aside...we are going to see ET very soon IMO. Enmass and no mistaking them for weather balloons or flying plates. All eyes will see them and all eyes will know what it is they are seeing without doubt.


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NaturalMystik wrote:

Kira wrote:

Want some vinegar with them fries? (some people eat 'em that way)

mmmmmmm mmmmmm!

Not in the states though! You should see the looks you get when asking for vinegar for your fries! Huh?!

Sorry, totally off-topic. Sort of...

[way off topic]
preferably malt vinegar , but balsamic works in a pinch.
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14% of people know that.

never attribute to conspiracy that which can amply be attributed to the actions of a bunch of greedy stupid self serving men in power

yes i can read minds. yours is blank most days..

Well to think of it we haven’t seen so much of the human kind variety aliens lately but more of the humanoid type who tend to be skinny or slim, guess their more figure conscious than we think.

Definitely worth for the ET’s... ...to have with their preserve brine shrimps (from Thelma's stash) some ’ Fish and Chips ((battered hoke and potato chunky cut and fried in lard fat)' with a dab of vinegar and squeeze of lemon and definitely the best thing the Aussies and New Zealanders inherited from the Britons and for the ET’s to acquire, if they decided to show up.

Just a quick apology to all the members who got to see my outburst of feelings..(now gone) in this thread.
I do tend to stick up for what I know as real...and so I do apologize for letting things get carried away as they did!

Cheers!


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I think that post showed strength of character entity...


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I know what was said by me in anger.. does not represent what BoT stands for..I do not want any one to think that it does..


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