This is interesting: It is alleged the government has bought half a Million plastic coffins and is storing them in the middle of Georgia, in anticipation for...? You can read the story line and view a video at this link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/half-a-million-plastic-coffins.html
Now I think this is some kind of a hoax, trying to stir people up and such as I suspect it is only a storage facility for the company manufactoring the caskets. But it make for interesting news amid the hype. Not to be taken seriously I am sure.
Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:52 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:46 am
Alex Jones can be more than a bit wild eyed at times, but if this one is true in it's allegations of a govt connection it wouldn't surprise me a bit.
I used to live where one of the major rail equipment manufacturers is a major employer, and have been told by several people I trust who were employees that the fabled railcars with the leg irons and shackles do in fact exist. I've personally stood outside the chainlink and concertina surrounds at one of the facilities located on a rail spur in the PNW and observed the chainlink cattle chutes with the one way personnel gates, the color coded segregation zones, and the barred security building. Certainly looked to me like a transfer point for human detainees (livestock can't use barred turnstiles).
Given those two things I'm not all that skeptical of any funky thing this government could get up to.
I have a pretty good acquaintance with industrial processes and practices, and I can't imagine any manufacturer in today's JIT business atmosphere cranking out a half million of any such large product just to stockpile it indefinitely against future possible market. Current business practice mandates that such a volume of material, equipment and labor cost be metered out over time at a rate no greater than will stay just ahead of demand. Getting the return on investment rate wrong on a production run that size can bankrupt even a large manufacturer.
Yes, I can imagine several scenarios that would account for the things existing in storage in that volume that don't involve any sinister conspiracies, but one thing I'm real sure about is that the manufacturer has either already been paid or has in hand an iron clad contract for payment.
No business in it's right mind would absorb that much expense just on speculation, and I can't see a market for that many butt ugly coffins anywhere in the civilian sector. People tend to be sloppy sentimental about their dearly departed and such sensibilities would be aghast at the very idea of planting dear old granny in something that unaesthetic.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:57 am
The problem with Alex Jones is that you get the sense he has an orgasm every time something like this is passed along to him. He is committed, for what 12 years now (?), to emphasizing this exact same scenario as our inevitable destiny. Everyone in the world is going to be murdered and/or raped in a prison camp, unless we... what? Watch another one of his DVD's? Vote Ron Paul? Worship Charlie Sheen and Rosie O'Donnell? I have yet to hear a single solution from Jones besides a Willie Nelson 911 concert co-sponsored by Jesse Ventura and the Dallas Maverick's basket ball team.
It's good that things like this are reported, but if it was really some horrible and diabolical secret, would it really be leaked on Youtube for Jones and numerous websites to post?
If it wasn't for fear, trendy packaging, and implying that "Big Brother" is this all encompassing power of "Satanic Forces", Alex Jones wouldn't have a job.
I'm convinced that the most important things, the actual threats, never make it into the narrow spectrum of Alex Jones's so-called "investigative journalism".
USA! USA! USA! Yet 2 brothers from the UK write most of his articles for him. Why is that?
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:57 pm
Why is the Half a Million Coffins post locked? Why can't we reply to it?
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:57 pm
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A troll was mucking around in the thread. So someone removed said troll's posts and locked the thread temporarily.
Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:07 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:42 pm
Just watched the vid. I'd love to think those are some kind of raised vegetable garden containers we will all rush out to buy for organic gardening....... on the other hand......... didn't someone say they were targetting us rh negative blood types w/those chemtrails? If so, maybe they will introduce something to the mix soon ........
Forgive if I'm going overboard here............. just something that came to mind as I watched the vid.
Are they sure they are coffins?
Maybe an impending war w/Iran and a need for several coffins? Or a star wars? Ok, back to the real world..... I'd rather be sailing!
What's going on........ does anybody really know?
Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:42 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:04 pm
For those who may be wondering, two threads were merged into this one topic.
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Tiger that'll be the reason my post had nowhere to go.
There could be a few reasons out there cruiser, none of them nice, 1. There could be the Titor type scenario, where there is a civil war in the US.
2. There might be a total transmutation of Avian Bird Flu HN51, after Olympics this could be transglobal.
3. PlanetX/Nibiru might hit and they may well be needed.
4. They could be transportation cryogenic pods.
Whoever heard of plastic coffins. Non biodegradable. Why?
Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:15 pm
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Are they sure they are coffins?
Here you go CRUISER - Other than color they are the same.
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:17 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:27 pm
Well my Lord ......... I plan to be cremated.........so no need for all of that fuss.
Jeepers creepers.......... I'm heading to the lake to try and forget about all of this. It's not real, none of this is happening. Life is mundane and shallow....... biggest concern is which way the wind is blowing and how many tacs we will make up wind......... what's on the barbie and who can win at whiffle ball.
I get it Thelma, Jimwill.......... I just don't want to think about it for a few days.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:35 pm
thelmadonna wrote:
Tiger that'll be the reason my post had nowhere to go.
There could be a few reasons out there cruiser, none of them nice, 1. There could be the Titor type scenario, where there is a civil war in the US.
2. There might be a total transmutation of Avian Bird Flu HN51, after Olympics this could be transglobal.
3. PlanetX/Nibiru might hit and they may well be needed.
4. They could be transportation cryogenic pods.
Whoever heard of plastic coffins. Non biodegradable. Why?
Thelma... thats what I thought.... NON biodegradable.... why ??
Pandemic is long overdue ... could be bird flu as you say Thelma
transportation pods.... interesting....
I too thought... odd looking things for coffins... but then I checked out the link... I dont get the non biodegradable thing though...
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:47 pm
Cruiser:
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Jeepers creepers.......... I'm heading to the lake to try and forget about all of this. It's not real, none of this is happening. Life is mundane and shallow....... biggest concern is which way the wind is blowing and how many tacs we will make up wind......... what's on the barbie and who can win at whiffle ball.
My sentiments exactly Cruiser. Except instead of whiffle ball, it's checkers or dominoes. Hells bells, I'm too old for whiffle ball.
Bye the way, what are you gonna have on the barbie?
Lady O:
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A troll was mucking around in the thread. So someone removed said troll's posts and locked the thread temporarily
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Lady O, You need to change troll to peckerwood.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:48 pm
BubbaEarlIII wrote:
Lady O, You need to change troll to peckerwood.
A peckerwood was mucking around in the thread. So someone removed said peckerwood's posts and locked the thread temporarily.
...better?
Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:48 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:52 pm
Pretty strange....
What are the "holding camps" across the USA able to hold?
I am thinking about half a million..
Just an observation..but..who really knows what these savages that rule our world really have in store for us.
If you want..it can very easily tie into what is going to happen with ET..and other things..but...that is going to far ..I guess... But really....just step back...and look around.. none of what is taking place..is taking place by chance...There is an objective and a motive.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:55 pm
I don't know...I'm not sure as people die everyday and coffins need to be manufactured. True fact...."Why non-biodegradable." As if something big is going to happen (The Black Death revived?) and they want to make sure it does not spread, whatever "it" is. It seems to me to be much like the boy who cried wolf, inundating (sensory overload) us with this info so we get tired and let out guards down. Uuuuummm, could Alex Jones be part of that?
Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:01 am
You know the more I think of this I really have to wonder.....
1. When was this video taken? I only ask because it was posted in July, however, it's obvious this was in the early months of some year because there are no leaves on the trees and everything is gray and brown. I only mention this because I'm just curious as to whether it's only a few months old or years.
2. Seriously, WHY would anyone need this many of ANYTHING? Let alone COFFIN'S. Good grief, hundred's of thousands of these NON BIODEGRADABLE things. Someone knows something.
3. And why are there about 20 time more covers than there are cases?
They are storing thousands and thousands of seeds up in the north pole too. Maybe they will be using some of these coffins to store seeds, books, cd's, etc, so they don't ever degrade into oblivion when 2/3rds of the world dies from Avian Flu or some other disease. That way 20,000 years from now people can try and figure out what all of the stuff packed away is.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:16 am
Well one thing to keep in mind, as odd as it appears for that many coffins to all show up in the same place.
It's half a million coffins. There are 300 million Americans.
We're talking a half of 1% of the entire U.S. population.
How many people die each day anyway in the U.S.? 5 people every minute? Thousands and thousands of people die everyday in the U.S., hell, thousands and thousands of people go missing every day in the U.S.
A half million coffins in one place is a strange site, but a half million of anything in one place is a strange site. In the grand scheme, it's a very small number comparatively to how many people reside in the U.S., and how many people die everyday anyway.
And yes, this video is at least 3 or 4 months old, so in all likelyhood those coffins aren't even being stored there any longer, and may very well have been divided up and sent all around the country, which when considered, isn't really that many coffins.
They also brought in 10's of thousands of body bags into New Orleans after Katrina, but obviously they didn't need all of them either.
I'm just trying to use some logic and reasoning that Jones doesn't seem to be capable of, instead choosing "The Sky is falling and we're all gonna die!!!" in order to sell DVD's.
And look up the "Neithercorp forum" where this info supposedly originated. Ironically their forum started at the exact same time this video hit Youtube, and their sole purpose appears to be in promoting Alex Jones and Ron Paul.
From the article
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Well, apparently the Government is expecting a half million people to die relatively soon,
From a logical comment to the article
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While 500k may seem like a lot, keep in mind that 2.5 million people in the U.S. die each year. Even if only 1/2 of them get buried, and if only 1/2 of those buried choose vaults, that’s still more than 600k.
Hello, I did a search on this and the oldest date I found was 20 Dec 07. All the info I saw on it is about Fema Death Camps, NWO, and color codes for people and method of disposal. If used for body's they look to me that they could hold 4 maybe more people in one container. It was mentioned that the container with body's in it would be burned whole. I don't know what the disposition, purpose for these are but, I know there is real need for these in cemetary's. Hard to imagine that this is a distribution point or simple storage. My first thought is that they are seconds, and have a defect making them unsuitable for intended use, that they have been purchased for other than intended. Maybe just gross over purchase by the government.....ownership of the property, land they are on would be good to know. And there is the distinct possibility that they are intended for a known upcoming event....they are coffins none the less.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:15 am
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It was mentioned that the container with body's in it would be burned whole.
I'm not so sure about that map-reference, especially if there is a nuclear war. I believe the article made mention of these containers acting as containment. If the bodies were radioactive, it was stated they could not be cremated as the radiation would spread during the process.
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Maybe just gross over purchase by the government....
Very possible lol as we all know how they spend tax payers money....LOL
Sorry about the bad joke map-reference but I could not resist.
Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:15 am
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:39 am
Hello mensa517....it is true that the article mentions containment. I watched a handful of vids (youtube) and read one more article on these particular coffins. It was outlined in one of the vids that container and body's together would be burned. This was in the instance of mass extermanation......done by Fema at there camps. Two weeks prior to martial law declared people coded red would be rounded up for execution and then burned.......yucky. Then people coded yellow...then blue. When I couple this with the camps and the rail cars and time frames it's a fiercely scary picture. Can only keep or eyes open, watch and wait at the moment.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:55 pm
Turns out they've been collecting those vaults there for TEN YEARS by the way. It isn't like they were just shipped there in the past few months, but it's been a 10 year process of shipping them to that location...
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:58 pm
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Well one thing to keep in mind, as odd as it appears for that many coffins to all show up in the same place.
It's half a million coffins. There are 300 million Americans.
We're talking a half of 1% of the entire U.S. population.
How many people die each day anyway in the U.S.? 5 people every minute? Thousands and thousands of people die everyday in the U.S., hell, thousands and thousands of people go missing every day in the U.S.
A half million coffins in one place is a strange site, but a half million of anything in one place is a strange site. In the grand scheme, it's a very small number comparatively to how many people reside in the U.S., and how many people die everyday anyway.
And yes, this video is at least 3 or 4 months old, so in all likelyhood those coffins aren't even being stored there any longer, and may very well have been divided up and sent all around the country, which when considered, isn't really that many coffins.
I understand what you mean, but why that many? Why all there in that one place? I understand that compared to the total population it's a small number, but as someone mentioned earlier no company would manufacture that many of anything unless they were guaranteed to have them sold already. Otherwise they would go out of business. It's not like making plastic fork and knives where you can put out millions for next to nothing cost. These things had to cost quite a bit to make that many. And to store and hold that many for 10 years? Why? Obviously they aren't selling very many if they still have that many. The only reason they would store that many for 10 years is because someone bought them for a "specific reason".
Scary!!!!!!!
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Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:58 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:29 pm
Defintely something weird going on here, Not entirely sure why they are stockpiling these things.
Wouldnt they just burn the bodies if there was a mass plague or disease of somesorts ? like the way they did when the foot and mouth disease was found in UK farming herds. All they did what kill the infected or suspected herd, dig a huge pit, dump the bodies in there and pour in combustant and burn them. Seems a safer way of disposing of that amount of bodies.
Also each container seems quite big for just one 'user'
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Also each container seems quite big for just one 'user'
I believe the whole coffin goes inside, not just the body.
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I fail to understand this on so many levels.
1. Why would you want a big, sealable plastic box to put the coffin in? This implies that decomposition will happen inside the container and then not interact with the planet in any way for a very long time. Why would one want that? I can't think of a single "normal" reason. My head just runs to isolating bodies that have died from very problematic causes like massive radiation. Or maybe something like this: if you had American citizens contract a virus overseas and die from it. You'd then seal them in such a box and transport the bodies home, maybe? Or why? I'm at a loss.
Has anyone ever heard of a funeral using one of these things? What the hell are they FOR?
2. Why half a million of them. MAD you explain that this number was built up over time. Okay, that explains HOW it came to be - it doesn't explain WHY it came to be. Unless there is a total moron with inventory control who has an unlimited budget at his disposal there is no way that this is an accident. Someone WANTED half a million of these sealable body boxes and spent a lot of money over a long period of time to get them. Why? And dealing with the number as a percentage of the amount of people that die each year or whatever is of no help. If it was "business as usual" then they would not build up like that... they'd be shipped out as they were required for "business as usual". My biggest client is a national retail chain. They store inventory at massive Distribution Centres. If they muck up their stock holding and get too much stock heaping up at the DC for just a few weeks it can make that product unaffordable at the price-point it is offered on shelves - it's that sensitive. NO ONE in their right mind would build up such a stock for "just in-case" there is a need or something. This kind of build up is VERY expensive and is clearly calculated for a particular purpose. The fact that it happened slowly just means that it would have put less pressure on the supplier to do it in one go and the money could have trickled out of the allocation fund rather than having it show up in one great lump which would have raised questions.
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UPDATE:
It seems from a page on their site that the producers were briefed to create a burial vault as strong as concrete. They actually specify they have produced "a polymer burial vault that rivals concrete in actual load bearing capability." Why? Why would one want that? What does load-bearing ability have to do with anything? Unless you are going to put a LOT of heavy stuff on top? Or bury it at sea and not want the water pressure to burst it? Or what?
They have a page that is supposed to address the question of "why" but all it says is that "polypropylene (is) as strong as concrete, less susceptible to water seepage, and tough as a tank!" But till - WHY?
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:20 am
Just a quick thought !
If due to a massive global event, the government were forced to move into an underground unit (i'm thinking of a mountainside military installation)for a sustained period of time. Then it makes sense to consider what life would be like down there. I'm sure everyone would think of 'packing' the essentials such as food, drink and toilet paper. But if you were trapped in a sealed underground base whilst waiting out the after effects of a nuclear winter for example. Then what do you do with the bodies of the people who die naturally ? As Mad said before, people die alot from natural causes and the need would be there to despose of bodies and when underground, in a rock surrounded installation, a simple burial may be difficult.
As for the volume of them, how many secret bunkers are there and how many would be needed.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:21 am
I dunno. Better safe than sorry. I'm sure things 10 times worse are going on besides a collection of burial vaults... The "slow burn" as opposed to the "hot flash"...
But it doesn't all get leaked on Youtube for Alex Jones to report on via an "independent source" that formed at the exact same time this video was uploaded.
Fema brought in 25,000 body bags after Hurricane Katrina, by the way. I said 10 or 15,000 earlier in this thread. They brought in 25,000, only needed around 3000.
Which is still a lot...
But I can't deny, collecting that many burial vaults in one place is extremely peculiar. If it's all legitimate and not some elaborate hoax of fear.
Consider though, the use of 500 thousand vaults over 5 or 10 years, not just for human burial, and with Mexico and Canada included...
Then, it is a very small number in the grand scheme of events.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:27 am
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Alex Jones was running the exact same story about these plastic coffins in Georgia almost 3 years ago, claiming they are meant to store bodies from FEMA death camps.
The company issued a press release explaining it's a storage facility for some of their inventory (right next to their manufacturing plant.) Alex Jones was questioned about it on CTC and ate his own words.
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The coffins might be needed in aid with codex alimentarius. This is a plan by the FDA to use food as a weapon. For further study on this check out this link http://www.december212012.com/download/2012/Esoteric_Agenda-1.htm Like one of the other bloggers wrote, you don't stock pile unnessary goods for no reason, especially if you paid for them, you probably are going to use them.
Remember that the coffins are non-biodegradeable cause you don't want any dead contaminated bodies letting a virus escape, the way it would if they used a regular coffin.
The end of 2009 it is mandated that all of our food be treated with growth hormones. Right now you can buy free range chicken, Hormone free milk, BUT that is all about to change at the end of 2009. Hormonal free food will no longer be an option.
Oh, and did you know that they also plan to make everything in the GNC store illegal. Not a little but as illegal as heroin. You can't patent a vitamin or mineral, you can only patent something that is synthetic or man made. Soon natural cures will be gone and there will only be Pharmisuitical treatments.
But you don't have to take my word for it, check it out yourself.
Oh and if the video with the link does't convince you, there is proof beyond that.
Then ask yourself who would be allowed to make such a monument on public or private land, (the gov't) and you can't even have an old broken down car sit in your front yard.
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