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Post subject: Australian and New Zealand Lost History Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:38 pm |
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Been finding many articles that query the true History of Australia.. Rumors of Government Cover ups.. artifacts being buried , destroyed, or archived away, or anomalous artifacts just discredited as fakes.
Some people in Europe were questioning the rumors of Australian pyramids..
ancient Phoenician mines.
They were discussing the cover up of Australian pygmies.. Yes I learned about them at school , many, many ,years ago and was surprise that there was no mention of them in modern day history...
Quote: http://www.sydneyline.com/Pygmies%20Extinction.htmThe extinction of the Australian pygmies Keith Windschuttle and Tim Gillin Quadrant June 2002 From the 1940s until the 1960s, it was fairly widely known there were pygmies in Australia. They lived in North Queensland and had come in from the wild of the tropical rainforests to live on missions in the region. This was a fact recorded at the time not only in anthropological textbooks and articles but also in popular books about the Australian Aborigines. There was even an award-winning children's book tracing their origins. The more famous photographs of the Australian pygmies were reproduced in both the academic and the popular literature. At the time, there was controversy about their origins but not over the fact of their existence. In 1962, the first volume of Manning Clark's History of Australia recorded their presence on its first two pages and repeated the then influential anthropological theory about their origins and their place in the waves of migration of hunter-gatherer peoples from Asia who populated the Australian continent in the millennia before the British arrived in 1788. [1] Yet, since then, the Australian pygmies have been totally obliterated from public memory. To test just how complete this process has been, over recent months we have questioned a wide range of friends and acquaintances. Although most were well-educated and well-read people, none had ever heard of the pygmies, not even when we used some of their other, once-familiar alternative names such as "Negritos" and "Barrineans". A few friends scoffed at the notion and demanded some evidence. They wouldn't believe us until we emailed them the photographs. The Encyclopedia of Aboriginal Australia (1994), published by the Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies, today does its best to disguise these people. It lists some of their tribes, including the Djabuganjdji, Mbarbaram (Barbaram) and Yidinjdji (Indindji), but does not mention a word about their stature. Only its entry "Rainforest Region" records the existence of "small, curly-haired people with languages which have distinctive features", but the accompanying photograph of Yidinjdji tribesmen taken in 1893 does not give any scale or point of comparison to show that these adult males were only about 140 centimeters (four feet six inches) tall. [2]
Yes... their existence has been covered up... So what else, other history has been hidden.. rewritten...
It is worth exploring.. sharing what I have uncovered , with any other information others may have....
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:40 pm |
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http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/view_topi ... d=8&id=256
Rex Gilroy has done a lot of research on this.
Quote: Discoveries of relics, wrecks and rock inscriptions along the rugged Australian coastline, speak of unknown contacts with our shores by mariners from Portugal and Spain, a century and more before the arrival of the first Dutchman. Spanish relics seem the most numerous. For example; during the 1920's bushwalkers on Stephens Island, 68km south of Cairns, in far north Queensland, and 5km off the mainland, stumbled upon a stone Peruvian idol, decorated in old Castillian jewellery, half buried in dense jungle undergrowth.
About this time, in a cave on Prince of Wales Island, and 60km west of Cape York, Queensland, a man found a huge rusty broadsword bearing finely engraved Castillian designs. Nearby, to his dismay, he found a crumbling human skeleton beside a gold goblet. Many years ago, Aborigines on Murray Island, 165km north-west of Cape York, were found to possess light-coloured skins with definite Latin features and to use Spanish words in everyday language. While in Ingham, 83km up the coast from Townsville, a farmer ploughed up three-and-a-half swords, all of Castillian design and one with a highly embossed hilt.
Also near Proserpine, 225km down the coast from Townsville, another Spanish sword has since been discovered. During the 1930's and old crumbling human skeleton was found, laid out upon a sandstone crevice in a deep rock shelter in the mountains behind Mackay. It was clothed in a morrion helmet and breastplate. Also in the 1930's, two other human skeleton's clothed in Spanish armour were found preserved in a cave behind Cooktown beach. Even in recent times, many 16th century coins have been found, washed up on a Cooktown beach. Some locals claim the coins come from the remains of a Spanish vessel wrecked offshore.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:36 pm |
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http://arts.anu.edu.au/arcworld/resourc ... aocult.htm
Quote: Two examples are sufficient to illustrate the kinds of hidden histories that use this celestial chronology. The first example explicitly invokes astronomical processes because a star composed of light-beings (sometimes celestial beings or ‘angels’) is said to circle the earth causing cycles of change. For example, Scallion (1995b) writes that "Prior to major Earth changes and major shifts in consciousness, spiritual forces send guidance to prepare us for these changes...a Blue Star, that moves through the heavens in regular cycles, such as a comet, except this celestial object is pure spiritual forces... This same star also visited Earth 12,000 years ago, to warn the world of the coming of the Flood - the sinking of Atlantis." Some versions of this model have the light-beings descending to earth to create humanity, and invoke Aboriginal stories as evidence for these events:
My Aboriginal teachers relate the extraordinary tale of their origins as free-living ‘Light beings’ beyond this dimension, who materialised onto a Paradise World that was somehow corrupted and destroyed by ‘Dark Forces’. (White 1994:16)
The second example comes from Lawlor’s (1991) Voices of the first day, in which the human occupation of Australia reflects the larger cycles of glaciations, magnetism and the flows of ‘Universal feminine and masculine forces’. According to Lawlor (1991:92) the occupation of Australia is far longer than allowed by conventional archaeology, and is tied to the intrinsic rhythms of the earth. He summarises this prehistory as follows:
The 120,000 years of the Ice Epoch is concurrent with the approximate 120,000 years of Aboriginal culture in Australia. Both of these are in harmony with the 60,000 years of cultural oscillation that the ancient Dravidians called the Yugas, a period that extended from the Golden Age to the Age of Kali.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:23 pm |
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http://www.rexgilroy.com/
Quote: right here in Australia; the ‘lost’ civilisation of Uru. I will show that it was a highly advanced Stone Age civilisation, whose builders have left, scattered across the continent, their extensive alignments of standing stones, stone circles, and other fantastic remains of their advanced astronomical science; as well as temples, tombs and other monuments, often constructed of huge monolithic stones, the method of whose erection remains a mystery lost in time. http://www.crystalinks.com/auspetroglyphs.htmlhttp://www.viewzone.com/tablerock.htmlQuote: We noticed that the circles and shapes appeared to be carved over pre-existing petroglyphs that had all but worn away with the passing of time. The newer petroglyphs were thousands of years old, so the older ones were extremely old.
In Australia, "old" means "very old." Some of the Aboriginal people make reference to the last Ice Age when they give the family narratives -- and that was 30,000 years ago!
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:26 pm |
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[url=http://ancient-tides.blogspot.com/2009/03/tongan-petroglyphs-resemble-hawaiian.html]
Beach erosion on a remote island in Tonga have revealed petroglyphs archaeologists say are similar to those found in Hawaii ~ 3,000 treacherous ocean miles away.
More than 50 petroglyphs were buried for centuries under several feet of sand until heavy seas exposed them late last year. The carvings were spotted by two Australian visitors who notified Tonga artist and amateur archaeologist Shane Egan, who in turn contacted archaeologist and ethnohistorian David Burley, a professor at Simon Fraser University in Canada. Burley has conducted a number of field surveys and excavations in Tonga, which is about 3,000 miles southwest of Hawaii.[/url]
and... Polynesian Pathways
Not too far from Australia...
This site is full of interesting information
This is quite interesting as a while ago I read that there were similarities between aboriginal and a Archaeology Channel - Audio News from Archaeologica
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:16 pm |
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some more interesting information... So much worth further exploration... this was from 1979!!!!!!
Since then there have only been faint hints of this...
When I look at the many strange shaped hills around the outskirts of Melbourne...  I can't but wonder.. especially after reading about the other strange shaped hills around the world that have been excavated in the last decade.....
Combine these with all the 'aboriginal sacred places' around these odd looking places
where we are not allowed to dig...
Then the 'magic areas' that have 'time anomalies' one made famous by the 'Picnic at Hanging Rock ' fame.......
 [url=http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/strangephenomenonu.html] They are a fair-skinned race who say in their folklore that they came from across the western ocean from a great continent. There is also another great mystery surrounding archeological remains in both Peru and Yucatan. Here scientists have excavated in recent years human skeletons dating back many thousands of years, which may have been identified as Australoid. What were Australian Aborigines doing in far off South America? At a central western Queensland site, remains of walls and buildings have been unearthed below surface deposits.
They are constructed of bricks of a triangular shape whose mortar seems more durable than the bricks themselves. Similar ruins exist in Western Australia and on the north coast of Papua New Guinea. Other mysterious ruins have lately come too light across a wide area of the Papua New Guinea hinterland. Whether or not these remains are evidence of Ancient Egyptian settlement of New Guinea remains uncertain, even though other undoubted remains of Egyptian presence have already come to light.
A number of archeologists-anthropologists and ethnologists who have undertaken extensive field research over the years have come to the general agreement that, based upon ancient relics, the customs and beliefs of the present day New Guineans, that a super civilisation may have once existed in New Guinea, and which has left its mark upon certain racial features and the social organisations of the Melanesians. Archaeologists have been carrying out a search for the submerged remains of an island which native tradition says once existed somewhere between Papua New Guinea and Australia and which was destroyed by a volcano. Recently divers uncovered a number of large carved stone heads. Nearby on a small island, remains of temples have been found.[/url]
Quote: The Maoris even claimed decent from this mysterious race. Belief in far away China of a mysterious "land to the south" had persisted since the dim ages of pre-recorded Chinese history. Known as the land of Locack, its existence today is verified by ancient maps, some dating back 2500 years, which besides the islands of South-East Asia, display the undoubted though crude outline of Australia. According too ancient traditions the land of Locack was a vast continent so plentiful in Gold and other precious minerals that it surpassed all over lands.
Also its inhabitants were said to be idolators and expert astronomers. Who were this mysterious people? Certainly not the primitive Aborigines, a stone age race which has never risen above the carving of crude petroglyphs or cave paintings. The Aborigines worship mysterious "culture heroes" and a supreme being called Biame. In some ancient legends these "culture heroes" came to Australia from across the sea in great vessels, as is the case of the north-west Kimberley tribes, whose cave art often depicts these strange visitors which they called the Wandjina.
But the Wandjina are represented often clothed in garments typical of ancient Egyptians. This may be further supported by the presence of Middle East blood groups, racial features, and ancient Egyptian words still spoken by tribes-people to this day. In other parts of Australia the "culture heroes" re-appear as people who entered the continent to "carve out the mountains and hills."
Or who, as in the case of the "culture heroes" said to have inhabited the Bathurst district west of Sydney, built large structures out of often enormous stones. it is evident that there were many different "culture heroes" visiting and staying lengthy periods in Australia. Just who were these various "culture heroes" remains a mystery-but it is certain evidence that Australia was a land known to many ancient civilisations many, many thousands of years before recorded history. Among the enigmatic "culture heroes" are a mysterious people called the Uru, a white-skinned race which, the Aborigines say, watched the stars, shaped the countryside, and erected "sacred stones" and other structures.
The disclosures support the traditions of the ancient Chinese chroniclers, and it was these very same traditions which prompted the early Chinese navigators to undertake extensive sea voyages southward beyond their traditional trading base in the islands of South East Asia, to the mysterious southern continent which today we call Australia. The fact that the peoples of the Pacific, and also the Inca and Maya of ancient central America, knew of the land of Uru may help to explain certain enigmatic relics which have come to light in the Australian-New Guinea region.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:35 pm |
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[url=http://www.viewzone.com/oklahoma.southend.html]The vast majority of New Zealand's Maori people (Polynesian...officially designated indigenous) derive no benefit from these massive financial "payouts" or from the acquisition of "redistributed" resources.
Privately owned farms and large tracts of land are being gobbled up by the "Waitangi Tribunal" and big business is the final beneficiary. Our corrupt politicians are little more than an executive arm to the multinationals and take their orders from the World Bank.
That's the simple, superficial answer, but the tentacles of control go much deeper. One would have to probe age-old, long established, "control-freak" organizations to find out why they perceive "forbidden archaeology" to represent such an undermining danger. Maybe there's a large element of "religious" interference, wherein those large organizations, with influences reaching who knows where, see an inherent danger to the story they tell and product they promote. I can't fathom the fullness of this insanity, but realize we must all work quickly to photograph and record as much as possible of the ancient traces before "big brother" erases them forever.[/url]
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Post subject: Re: Australian and New Zealand Lost History Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:50 pm |
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Just came across this article... Quote: 35,000 year-old Aboriginal artifacts located at Rio Tinto iron mine
Archaeologists in Australia have discovered ancient Aboriginal tools in the Pilbara region, in Western Australia. The artifacts, radiocarbon-dated to be at least 35,000 years oldwere found on the Hope Downs iron mine site, which is jointly-owned and operated by Rio Tinto and Gina Rinehart’s Hancock Prospecting.
The find represents one of the oldest prehistoric sites in Australia and will likely be considered an internationally-significant “prehistoric record of humanity.â€
The local Martidja Banyjima people hired archeaologist Dr. Neale Draper, managing director of Australian Cultural Heritage Management Ltd., to investigate the site.
According to Draper, “We are thrilled at the test results. This is a major scientific discovery. It contains a large number of stone tools and it is one of the most data-rich ancient sites in Australia, with an exceptional amount of information about climate change through the last ice age, the earliest occupation of the Pilbara and North-West Australia.â€
Archaeologists hired by the Aboriginal traditional owners have released the results of radiocarbon tests indicating that it is one of the oldest-dated sites in Australia and internationally significant as a prehistoric record of humanity.
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Post subject: Re: Australian and New Zealand Lost History Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:58 pm |
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original intentions were good .. but it appears the promise of profit may have got in the way... maybe the Rainbow Serpent will look the other way if the people got some funding... Quote: The Chairman of the Board is Greg Tucker. Mr Tucker says no-one knows if the Rainbow Serpent is still in the Weeli Wolli Spring, but he says if it is there, it could be disturbed by mining activity.
GREG TUCKER: Well the Rainbow Serpent is either, we don’t know if it’s still there or not. The way the Rainbow Serpent used to dwell, it’s dry. And it could annoy him, it could develop into some, how you put it, it could be like a big storm, it could create a problem in the area.
DAVID WEBER: Mr Tucker says that for Indigenous people to survive in remote areas, they need funding. And the funding hasn’t been coming from governments. Mr Tucker says a trust fund will be set up for royalty payments from the mine.
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Post subject: Re: Australian and New Zealand Lost History Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:01 pm |
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 ...maybe the troglobites will outrank the wrath of the 'Rainbow Serpent' ? Tiny, blind creatures halt £5bn Australianmining project · Five new species of troglobite unearthed · Rio Tinto subsidiary to appeal against decision Archaeological finds dated to 35,000 yearsQuote: "There are at least 12 stone artefacts buried up to 10 centimetres below the 35,000 year date, inferring the site is much older. We do not know the age of the earliest artefacts, but based on the rock shelter stratigraphy, it is likely around 40,000 years.
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