The Book Of THoTH

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0808/meier-water.html



I find that the effort done by the author of this news article is spectacular. I always tend to find the more intelligible and expressive journalists writing and documenting for rather underground or off-set magazines and websites. Tells you which side of the 'force' has the better gang.



So, look at this article. I don't care if you don't post a reply. At least, read this article!



Peace, and love and light

Excellent article Nibiru...

I found this link in it of great interest...

http://theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm...

Many thanks...

The link you created does not work. I will look for the original on the article.


Momma, I'm glad you liked it.





Edit: Here is the link Momma tried to make (but she put in "..." at the end of it unknowingly )

http://theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm

One of the many predictions Billy Meier shared:




How's that for dead-on?:brainout:



BTW. Billy Meier is still alive.

Amazing prophecies eh Nibiru ?...

Thanks for correcting the link btw...

Thank you both. How about this one?

I had read earlier this year on Billy's website, that skeptic Derek Bartholomaus had withdrawn his negative statements.

How did he think that a simple Farmer like Billy, could in the early to mid-seventies, fake over 800 photographs and several videos, without the aid of modern equipment, such as a computer.

I am always delighted when the skeptics are proved wrong.

Thanks for the Links Nibiru and Momma.

Oookaaayy ...I've never been a Meier fan and always been sceptical of him. But if these "prophecies" are definitely from the 70's i'll have another look.

Been passing by this article and never read it, thanks so much Nibiru.

This is too cool for words! I can hear the bricks falling as I type.

Thanks for all the links will be very busy reading them. Those predictions alone are

While reading it I was thinking he's still alive, this outing of it all being true, or most of it will bring him danger now. They were counting on his being thought of as a nut. Be safe Billy.

Undoubtedly, they are accurate beyond error. I always thought his story to be true because the photographs are not short of impressive, and some years ago I had seen a show where they had said, already, that it was impossible to recreate them as a hoax. Also, in the 70's, a photo analyst with the times current technology for analysis, had shown that the pictures were absolutely real. Maybe, it was in the 80's.




It's sad that the Vatican still believes we need a pope to control anything. The world is about the population, not just the governments. Someone has to destroy the current separation between government and people so that everyone can be on the same deck of the boat.




They figured it would be fun to keep up the fight, since poor Billy was such an awesome target due to his humility and open-arms to anyone about anything. Also, it was the one case which needed to be kept as a potential (which pretty much puts it, officially, as PROVEN) hoax for themselves to not coil in fear of what they don't know and the governments had an easier time dealing with cover-ups. Of course, the world has such an open mind nowadays, except for a few punks.




Billy will be alright, he'll probably already have sensed that his whole story has caught the public eye again. He'll do the best to help this planet and humanity on it.




Peace, and love and light.

Okay
I can see by the way this thread is going that i'm going to have to inject a serious dose of realism here.You can vote to have my MOD status revoked if you like
Fist off let me admit that at first i was so intrigued by this thread that i actually shamelessly plagerised it (as is my wont) and started it here......
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/fo ... 2435&st=15
...To my shame i've only just now opened your origial link , and to my horror i see it was written by Michael Horn if you dont know Michael Horn .research him - he peddles Billy's plastic dinosaurs off as the real thing ...he's of the dark side and appears to be one of billy's cults most prominent leaders.The guy's meshugena ,basically.
theyfly.com AND Fugo.com are "billy propoganda sites"...sorry guys but that's the way it is.If i had opened the link initially i would not have even started the topic elsewhere.......you can stone me now, but bfore you do ...look at Michael Horn in action.
If anyone can provide an independent link proving that someone OTHER than Billy or Michael can show these writings were done even before 1990 i'll reconsider my opinion ...till then.
BTW
When you go to that link have a look at Morrissons photo of Billy's purported alien holding a ray gun....if that doesn't work...maybe nothing will.
As a moderator on this site i'm issuing the instruction to us all ....shape up here people
I've just been reminded that maybe i've become sloppy. Only the most critical eyes will move the cause forward
Bogey

As with John Titor, it appears that many of these "prophecies" have been added to, edited, and further tinkered with over the past several decades.

Also, the proposal that water/ice would be discovered on Mars has been around for many decades and did not begin with Meier.

One armed or not, it's quite clear that a great majority of Meier's footage and photos are fairly easily faked, if you've got a little bit of time on your hand (s)...





I appreciate Meier as a hoaxter, in that regard he's one of the best. And, hey, if you can get a positive message out there in the meantime, all the better.

So, Meier is a proven hoaxer? I haven't read that article yet! Show me some evidence and corroboration!

What a fantastic thread!!!

You know..I never knew much about UFOs and ET until 2002, when my sightings started up again. Then it was a few years later..I found this place. It was only then did I have my eyes open to so much going on around us..including Miers.

I heard almost immediately that he was a hoax, liar..and could not be trusted...so I paid no heed to him as I would not have without outside opinion.

The links that you have provided and the ones within the links are very concrete in what they present.

I have to agree with you Nibiru, show me the proof of these lies. When has it been proven that "Billy" is a fraud?

I know how people are made out to be freaks, liars..unstable...hoaxers...when they step up with true matters that for some..seem to unbelievable. That is how the government has operated for over 60 years..on this subject. Make sure there is ample doubt on the matter.

It does seem that people would STILL rather carry on the governments dirty work for them.

As the articles read..there has been NO ONE that has been able to duplicate what has been presented by Billy...even the ones with lots of time on their hands, have not been able to do so..SO as they say...talk is cheap...when it comes to anyone saying they could duplicate the same...and then never do.

I say well done Niburu..and thank you.

I see why some feel the need to yell fake..

It is because Billy was allowed to experience what most do not. People ALWAYS yell fake or not real or these are lies...when they do not understand...or when coerced by the government or media to act this way.

I have respect for Billy...I read people..and looking at his picture and reading Billy..I see he is not as others have made him to be. He does have a LOT of knowledge from his encounters...and he has been a victim of lies told about him.

Okaaaay

First off .....I'd never do any governments work for them....A rebel till i die
Second off ...maybe i've been at this too long, Meier blew any credibility he may have had years ago...i will give links
3rd.....No one is doing anyone any favours by swallowing BMs BS hook line and sinker....that is merely being gullible...simple as that.


Start here

http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/m ... report.htm
http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/ufo/b ... ng_gun.htm

I'm presuming that everyone knows that Billy's wife came out and said he was a total fake?...and that a reporter found a scaled model of one of his UFOs in a barn?.
Debunking Billy Meier is like shooting fish in a barrel ...so dont be too quick to come to his defence


Will try get a better one of this but check out Billy's picture of Alien with Ray Gun
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/fo ... t&id=45436

Hi guys,

Nothing to add to your discussion just came across this thought might enjoy it...

(click me) UFO Sighting video filmed by the famous Billy Meier

cheers

Ok, so he hung the enormous models from a zeppelin which he owns. Wait, he doesn't own a zeppelin. So, he hung the models from a crane... Wait, no... he doesn't have a crane. Mmm.... I'm out of ideas.


I know about all the "evidence" to debunk Billy Meier, that site I posted is not the first information I get about him. I have been aware of him and have studied his situation for well over 5 years.


The wife coming out saying he's fake is mostly regarded as her trying to get the media away because there was too much commotion. Why didn't Billy say it himself?


The pictures that are from text books are intriguing, and whilst there are those who say it was just a fake excuse, others say some time-traveling was involved and someone replaced the pictures. I,personally, have no idea but I do believe a set-up could be involved. Of course, this fact does create a lot of haze around the subject.... BUT!..................


ONE person, ONE company... Just ONE that recreates the images we see. The fact that the objects (the craft, unless you don't think they are) ARE there, far away, in the sky. I'm saying this because of the image analysis not because I just think so.


Where is that ONE person, that ONE company? They, themselves, have admitted to fail at any recreation of the events.


Bogeyman, I quickly reviewed your articles, and I'm sure I have seen them before. The second article is pitiful. Just because he is making something which contains images similar to those in Billy's pictures, but completely inept at actually looking real (unlike Billy's), doesn't mean they're any good. A lot of fancy talk to present his "bases" and then a couple of pictures which are very, very bad recreations. Image analysis would EASILY tell that those objects are not at a par with the reference objects (trees, cars, etc.) in the pictures, as they are in Billy's.


The first article is just a long analysis about strange coincidences which the author fails to actually connect since all he did was tangle up Billy's information with news articles.


Sure, some of the things a person can say when offering insight into the future may be partially known. But, I ask you what the bigger picture adds up to.



Anyways, I just want to see ONE person recreate what Billy photographed. Why, if so easily done by a farmer in the 70s, is it so hard? Mmm...

I appreciate all insight.



Peace, love and light

For the Skeptics.

Quote by Derek Bartholomaus, the Top Skeptic who retracted his hoax claims, about Billy Meier's photographs.

"I will also agree with Horn (Michael) that the photograph section of the short version of my lecture was the weakest part of my presentation"

For the full story click on the Link below:-

http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash91/top_ ... _fixed.htm

Good link. Thank you.

A few years ago, six to be exact, a few friends and I messed around with burning steel wool. We got it on tape. I don't have access to the video, as I have changed computers numerous times and did not move all the information. I had put the video up on a website but the website has since changed owners and my account no longer exists.

I will try to find out if any of my friends still has the video.


I was the one who made the steel wool on fire spin, releasing chunks of fire bits all over the place. You could see them clearly, they fly very far. Yet, you don't see them in Billy's picture.


Good link.

This might be of interest:

http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash4/m_vogel.htm

Extract from website:

Theyfly.com Cannot be considered a credible source...honestly. They lie through their teeth on there. Look i'll keep showing you Billy stuff that'll hopefully change your mind, after that your on your own but someday the penny will drop and you'll realise just what a bunch of tricksters they are.....

Why are you leaning so acutely on changing my mind. If you truly believe he is a hoaxer, then where is the overwhelming evidence?



How do they lie through their teeth and what evidence do you have of this?


May I know the honest reason why you are so hell-bent on disbelieving the Meier case? In my opinion, the evidence has been sorted out, for both flanks... So far, the "credible" status is more outstanding than the "hoax" status.

I don't want to change anyone's mind. I want their minds to change themselves appropriately, as my own.


Peace, love and light.

Thats a fair Point Nibiru....i should allow you to make up your own mind........By the way here's a photo of one of the Pleaideans holding a Ray gun in Billy's office in 1988....Nice shiny suit eh ? did you know he claimed they had 6 fingers? even showed hand prints of them.....funny how they only seem to have 5 in photo's. Are you impressed by the photo ?
Did you even open the links i gave you? you keep asking where the evidence is and i'm giving it to you......do you want some more evidence.The fact is i'm a "believer" , i've seen UFOs up close and personal so i'm not a debunker...but neither am i so gullible as to beleive anything these con men trot out, and i'm trying to save others from falling into their trap.....but if you insist be my guest,at least do some proper research on the guy....and keep away from figu and theylie...sorry fly
bogey



Edit: linked image to imagehost to prevent bandwithstealing. Zet

I have difficulty taking the meier case serious mostly because of the outrageous obnoxious claims he made:

- He is the latest incarnation of Muhammad, and Jesus.

- Meier is the only person on Earth spiritually fit for contact with the Pleiadian race

- He claims he was taken back into time and personally met Jesus... Where Jesus told him that his(Meier's) spiritual evolution is higher then his own.



Also, you've got to be honest, alot of the pictures look really fishy. Take the picture of the Plejaden weilding the "ray gun" for example:



Why is "her" face conveniently out of the frame? And why does the gun look...so toy-like? It even looks like it is wrapped with tin foil.


Then there is the case of Billy Meier's pictures he took of "Dinosaurs".

Here is one of them:



People stood up however and said: "Hey I've seen this before..."




Here's some nice scientific analysation of his UFO pictures: Link


Anyway, with this history of extreme fishyness I would like to have some confirmation that these "predictions" were made before the actual events...

Guys

Here is my last word on this
http://forgetomori.com/2007/ufos/the-bi ... otographs/

Please please go there and look for yourself ....I'm still laughing TBH ..look at how the ships were made .

Look
I hete being a "bubble buster" i really do BUT it doesn't mean i have an alternate agenda ....i went through the whole Billy is genuine thing myself a few years back and got niggly when people started pointing all this stuff out to me.....but now i can laugh about it.
I seek to change no ones mind ....hopefully to enlighten though.
Zetanian
you beat me to it with the time travel dinosaur photo. Billy took some photo's when they took him back millions of years, unfortunately all the dinosaurs were exactly like toys or images in the public domain at the time......Ohhh mannnn

Billy claimed this was a Plejan female ....turns out she was an actress on the Dean Martin show ....go figure

I really LOVE Billy threads...

Generally when it comes to the Billy Meier photgraphs, UFO Researchers are split 50/50.

Two Links below about the controversial photographs. The second Link is a pdf file 10.28 MB in size and 25 pages long.

http://www.ufodigest.com/weddingcake.html

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/PhotoAnalysis3.pdf

Okay

I know i said last word but i just couldn't resist this. When Billy was asked why the Saucers bore a striking resemblance to Garbage can lids (including handle) this is what he replied.

[quote]Ptaah: “. . . As far back as the 1920s we worked with flying devices you have named the ‘Wedding Cake Ship,’ … we endeavored to transmit all of the necessary data regarding the vehicles’ shape to terrestrial scientists, in the form of telepathic impulses, to assist them in developing flying disks on Earth … We thoroughly investigated the entire situation and discovered that the old, newly re-emerged drawings were used for the design and production of these receptacle covers. … This, then, is how the shape of the container covers came about, which, as I mentioned earlier, strikingly resemble the lower rim section and undercarriage on our flying devices.â€

[quote="bogeyman"]Okay

I know i said last word but i just couldn't resist this. When Billy was asked why the Saucers bore a striking resemblance to Garbage can lids (including handle) this is what he replied.

[quote]Ptaah: “. . . As far back as the 1920s we worked with flying devices you have named the ‘Wedding Cake Ship,’ … we endeavored to transmit all of the necessary data regarding the vehicles’ shape to terrestrial scientists, in the form of telepathic impulses, to assist them in developing flying disks on Earth … We thoroughly investigated the entire situation and discovered that the old, newly re-emerged drawings were used for the design and production of these receptacle covers. … This, then, is how the shape of the container covers came about, which, as I mentioned earlier, strikingly resemble the lower rim section and undercarriage on our flying devices.â€

I tend to stay away from the "field" that is UFOlogy so I haven't looked at the Meier case too heavy. But from what I've seen it seems to me that he had a genuine encounter or encounters originally, then was later made to go insane. Probably via mind-altering procedures IMO.