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Lonecat
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:14 am
Well we know for a fact, that dogs and cats often grieve for their deceased carers and elephants show signs of emotional feelings when viewing the remains of their peers so why should we humans assume that we are the only creature to know grief? I felt sorrow for poor Gana.
Grief among other animals
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RoseRed
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:44 pm
Wow! What a beautiful article.
Thank you for sharing.
I think Animals are pretty darn aware - I think they just process a whole lot faster.
Some are more "emotionally human like", and then mixed with their animal ways - it leads them to grieve to death.
But yip I think they are well aware of death and that they do grieve.
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Kira
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:47 pm
That just breaks my heart.
Of course animals feel grief. It's humans, not all thank god, that feel they are the be all and end all of species in the universe. They have much more to learn then the animal kingdom.
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Juno54
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:01 am
Our cat Hamlet died from feline leukemia (like AIDS for cats), taking him to the vet so his final moments would be controlled and pain free. One of our other cats (Quint, my best friend for so much of my life) lay down where Hamlet had been and cried for ages, he wouldn't eat, drink or get up at all. We actually thought he was going to die from a broken heart.
My current kitty, however, seems to be having a love affair with my citrine crystal!!
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minifang
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:50 am
Research shows elephants remember the dead
Elephants visiting "graveyards" of long-dead relatives may be a myth, but new research suggests that they may, like humans, be able to recognise their own kind among the dead.
According to University of Sussex psychologist Dr Karen McComb, who studies communication and cognition in mammals, elephants can recognise and interact with the remains of other elephants years after death - a trait that has yet to be found in any other mammal except humans, and which had not been experimentally investigated before.
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RoseRed
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:02 pm
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kathaj
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:14 am
Animals greive just as intensely and deeply as any human will.
My daughter had a dog 'Kobby'and the only way to describe the way the dog felt is to say ,instaed of the dof being my daughters it was my daughter was that dogs girl . When my daughter passed away the dog was about 5 years old and for that first year I know that dog was as heartbroken and lost as I was trying to deal with our loss. at the time that Konbby came to live with me I had had my pup fred almost a year and so Kobby was a dailiy fixture in freds life he had always had her around , when she passed away at 11 years of age fred was completely lost and still a year and a half later he still does things like lays on her part of their bed with har favorite toy under his chin and tears will roll down his face while he grumbles . I just do him the same way I done Knobby which is to snuggle up and just be there until he gets up and goes on with his day. Yes I have first hand experence with grieving animals and am convinced without a dought they feel a loss of a loved one as much as any human will.
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BubbaEarlIII
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:23 pm
There are several documented cases where a dog will lay at the grave of it's deceased owner. The fact that they do speaks volumes about the emotions of animals.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:10 pm
yes , this reminded me of a post I made a while back....
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