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Lonecat
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Post subject: About Death: Just Like Us or Pretty Much Unaware? Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:14 pm |
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Well we know for a fact, that dogs and cats often grieve for their deceased carers and elephants show signs of emotional feelings when viewing the remains of their peers so why should we humans assume that we are the only creature to know grief? I felt sorrow for poor Gana.
Grief among other animals
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Kira
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:47 am |
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That just breaks my heart.
Of course animals feel grief. It's humans, not all thank god, that feel they are the be all and end all of species in the universe. They have much more to learn then the animal kingdom.
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Juno54
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Our cat Hamlet died from feline leukemia (like AIDS for cats), taking him to the vet so his final moments would be controlled and pain free. One of our other cats (Quint, my best friend for so much of my life) lay down where Hamlet had been and cried for ages, he wouldn't eat, drink or get up at all. We actually thought he was going to die from a broken heart.
My current kitty, however, seems to be having a love affair with my citrine crystal!!
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:50 pm |
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Research shows elephants “rememberâ€
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:14 am |
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Animals greive just as intensely and deeply as any human will.
My daughter had a dog 'Kobby'and the only way to describe the way the dog felt is to say ,instaed of the dof being my daughters it was my daughter was that dogs girl . When my daughter passed away the dog was about 5 years old and for that first year I know that dog was as heartbroken and lost as I was trying to deal with our loss. at the time that Konbby came to live with me I had had my pup fred almost a year and so Kobby was a dailiy fixture in freds life he had always had her around , when she passed away at 11 years of age fred was completely lost and still a year and a half later he still does things like lays on her part of their bed with har favorite toy under his chin and tears will roll down his face while he grumbles . I just do him the same way I done Knobby which is to snuggle up and just be there until he gets up and goes on with his day. Yes I have first hand experence with grieving animals and am convinced without a dought they feel a loss of a loved one as much as any human will.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:23 pm |
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There are several documented cases where a dog will lay at the grave of it's deceased owner. The fact that they do speaks volumes about the emotions of animals.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:10 pm |
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yes , this reminded me of a post I made a while back....
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