Don't fall for the toxic myth that you caused your diabetes by reckless overeating
While people with diabetes often are seriously overweight, there is accumulating evidence that their overweight is yet another symptom, not the cause of the process that leads to type 2 diabetes.
But the chances are that you've been told that you caused your diabetes by letting yourself get fat.
This is a truly toxic myth. By blaming you for your condition it causes guilt and hopelessness. Even worse, the belief that people with diabetes have brought their disease on themselves inclines doctors to assume that since you did nothing to prevent your disease, you won't make the effort to control it--a belief that may lead to your getting extremely poor care.
The myth that diabetes is caused by overeating also hurts the one out of five people who are not overweight when they contract type 2 diabetes. Because doctors only think "Diabetes" when they see a patient who fits the stereotype--the grossly obese inactive patient--they often neglect to check people of normal weight for blood sugar disorders even when they show up with classic symptoms of high blood sugar such as recurrent urinary tract infections or neuropathy.
Where Did This Toxic Myth Come From?
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Use Berberine To Fight Type 2 Diabetes
Yet another natural 'treatment' for diabetes is gaining attention: berberine. The plant has long been used in natural medicine, particularly in China, to treat illnesses and injuries. Now, it looks like Type 2 diabetics may also be able to benefit. The plant apparently lowers blood sugar.
Research by Chinese, Korean and Australian scientists at Sydney's Garvan Institute has finally provided the proof that berberine works in the treatment of the disease.
"This is very exciting because clearly it's a growing problem and now we're looking at a new weapon in our armoury in the fight against it," said Professor David James, head of the Garvan's diabetes and obesity research program.
Type two diabetics have too much glucose in their blood and insulin, the hormone that normally regulates blood sugar, can't do its job properly.
The researchers discovered that berberine makes insulin work better so that it can now effectively reduce blood sugar levelslinks.
Garvan scientist Dr Jiming Ye says: "Our studies in animal models of diabetes show that berberine acts in part by activating an enzyme in the muscle and liver that is involved in improving sensitivity of the tissue to insulin – this in turn helps lower blood sugar levels. In addition, it seems berberine can help reduce body weight".
As a drug, berberine has showed some activity against fungal infections, candida, yeast, parasites, and bacterial/viral infections.[3][4] Some research has been undertaken into possible use against MRSA infection.[5] Although berberine has been tested and used in diabetes, prostate cancer cell lines,[6] liver and leukaemia cancers,[7] cardiac arrhythmia,[8] and leukemia,[9] it has not been researched thoroughly with humans. Berberine is considered an ineffective antibiotic, but a minority claim that when not tested in isolation but in conjunction with the other biochemical substances from the barberry plant, berberine might then be effective.[10]
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Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:44 am
ScientistGeorge Pyramid Level I
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:13 am
I got rid of my diabetes precursor symptoms (hypoglycemia) in about six months, maybe sooner, with Chromium supplements. Check out this link. It tells about research done in China and that five times the RDA seemed to do the job in six months or less.
Scientists have discovered that after injecting capsaicin, a chili extract, insulin levels increased and restored blood glucose levels to normal virtually overnight. This discovery of the role for sensory nerves in diabetes opens door to new treatment strategies.
Researchers at Toronto University in Canada found the injectable cure after successful tests on mice and believe it will transform the quality of life of tens of million of people.
Researchers at The Hospital for Sick Children (SickKids), the University of Calgary and The Jackson Laboratory, Bar Harbor, Maine have found that diabetes is controlled by abnormalities in the sensory nociceptor (pain-related) nerve endings in the pancreatic islet cells that produce insulin. This discovery, a breakthrough that has long been the elusive goal of diabetes research, has led to new treatment strategies for diabetes, achieving reversal of the disease without severe, toxic immunosuppression.
When the mice’s pancreatic sensory nerves were injected with the substance, they began producing insulin normally almost instantaneously. Trials on humans with type one and type two diabetes are expected to begin within the next six months.
One of the doctors leading the research, Michael Dosch, said that with similar results in humans, one injection could keep diabetes at bay for years. Dosch described the research as “stunning”. Christian Stohler of the University of Maryland, who reviewed the research, said it opened “a novel, exciting door to address one of the diseases with large societal impact”.
Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:40 am
cruiser Numen
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:27 pm
Hi Crystalsage and ScientistGeorge,
In treating my dog's toenail issues, I was told to put him on Biotin (a B vitamin). This encourages metabolism as well, and in reading found it's supposed to be helfpul with diebetics also. (in moderation, as it can quickly cause hypoglaecemia in true diabetics as I discovered myself) I am hypoglaecemic if not careful.
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Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:27 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:11 pm
Crystalsage, these links do not work. Can anyone else get them to work? I would like to read these articles as they do look interesting.
ScientistGeorge, what else can you tell us about these chromium supplements. The article you shared with us is dated June 9, 1996 so it is a bit on the old side. I subscribed to the newsletter from the Diabetes in Control site as it looks to be a viable source of information. Hopefully crystalsage, I will be rewarded for doing so rather than the opposite. Also can anyone vouch for any of these approaches mentioned in this thread? Thelma?
You put a shout up for me Trent. My dear diabetic cohort, dont be putting your trust in the Berberine one, unless you folks on the other side of the pond have a differring term for low blood sugar. Here if you have lowblood sugar the term is Hypoglaecemia.
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One particular kind of berberine, or alkaloid berberine to be specific, is being presently investigated regarding its therapeutic components. Recent studies have found proof of alkaloid berberine being able to successfully treat hypoglycemia. An abnormally low level of blood sugar or hypoglycemia is a somewhat common side-effect of several diabetic medications.
You need no extra medication to manage this yourself, either eat a little more or reduce the amount of insulin you take!
ScientistGeorge
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I got rid of my diabetes precursor symptoms (hypoglycemia)
Can you tell me more? Most diabetes cases present themselves due to the condition of Hyperglycemia.
Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:39 pm
ScientistGeorge Pyramid Level I
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It appears that Chromium is also good for treating depression..)
I've found EFT (www.emofree.com) to be far and away the best thing for stuck emotions. A good friend of mine was continually depressed. I had told him many times about EFT and my comments seemed to go nowhere. One day I ask "Would you like to try something and finally he said OK. I tapped (EFT) on him for less than two minutes and his depression was gone. He did have a small amount of depression over the next several months, but never anywhere near the old level. Then about five months ago he allowed me to do a little more tapping on him. In two or three minutes of tapping we created a grand miracle for him plus the complete elimination of his depression.
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I got rid of my diabetes precursor symptoms (hypoglycemia)
Can you tell me more? Most diabetes cases present themselves due to the condition of Hyperglycemia.
I've known about the connection between chromium and diabetes / hypoglycemia. But not until I read the article (link posted previously in this thread) that I understood that the RDA was not enough to get the job done. So I started consuming (not taking, it's in effect food) 1000 mcg to 1200 mcg a day. I'm 6' 8" so I consumed a little extra.
My symptoms for about 25 years were headaches when my blood sugar went low. So every morning one of my first things to do was to get some food in me. After consuming the extra chromium for about six months, I forgot to eat something for about two hours after getting up in the morning. NO HEADACHE! That's when I knew that my symptoms were gone.
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A number of studies have reported an association between diabetes mellitus (DM) and alterations in the metabolism of several trace minerals. Impaired insulin release, insulin resistance and glucose intolerance in experimental animals and humans with DM have been linked to a compromised status of chromium, magnesium, selenium, vanadium and zinc. Some of these minerals (e.g., zinc, chromium, magnesium) are excreted at higher than normal rates in patients with DM, often leading to excessive urinary mineral wasting.
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Aspartame may also be responsible for weight gain by virtue of it's effect on chromium. This mineral in which many Americans are deficient .Such a deficiency has been linked to diabetes and it's precursor - Syndrome X--in which a person can experience decreased HDL levels insulin resistance, high blood pressure, and obesity .Chromium (meat, shellfish,chicken,cheese, unrefined grains, brewer's yeast) helps to regulate sugar and insulin levels and may be of use in preventing this pre-diabetic condition- and be an aid in weight control. One of the elements in aspartame ( aspartic acid) is said to bind , or chelate, with chromium.
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Chromium is bound up into indigestible forms when it meets up the phosphates in milk
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Chromium is sometimes called glucose tolerance factor or gtf
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High levels of sugars in the diet cause chromium to be excreted through the kidneys
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If you develop a rash, either try switching brands or discontinue use
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If you feel lightheaded, stop taking the supplement and consult your health care provider.
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If you have diabetes, do not take supplemental chromium (especially chromium picolinate) without first consulting with a qualified health care provider.
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Incidence of diabetes and heart disease decreases with increased levels of chromium in the body
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Some people experience lightheadedness or a slight skin rash when taking chromium.
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There is no evidence that chromium is toxic, even in high doses, since any excess is excreted. However, it is suggested that you do not take more than 200 mcg daily unless supervised by a registered practitioner.
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Vitamin C increases the absorption of chromium
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White flour and white sugar steals chromium by stepping up insulin production, which in turn flushes out chromium.
explains why I have read that milk can increase diabetes...
that excessive white flour bleaching agents can cause diabetes...
Vitamin C
http://www.vitamin-update.com/health-problems-detail.cfm/id/12.html
Vitamin C metabolism is altered in diabetics. The cellular uptake of vitamin C is promoted by insulin and inhibited by high blood sugar; and as diabetics have low insulin levels, they are at greater risk of vitamin C deficiency. Most studies have found people with diabetes to have at least 30 per cent lower vitamin C concentrations than people without the disease. Levels seem to be lower in diabetic people as a result of the disease rather than as a result of poor dietary intake.7 This deficiency can lead to increased capillary permeability, poor wound-healing, increased cholesterol levels, and immune suppression; which all contribute to diabetic complications.
Several studies suggest that chronic vitamin C administration has beneficial effects on glucose and lipid metabolism in Type II diabetic patients. In a 1995 study, the effect of magnesium and vitamin C supplements on metabolic control was assessed in 56 diabetics. The study involved a 90-day run-in period followed by two 90-day treatment periods, during which patients received 600 mg of magnesium and 2 g of vitamin C per day. The results showed that vitamin C supplementation improved glycemic control, fasting blood glucose, cholesterol and triglycerides.8
Vitamin C supplementation is effective in reducing sorbitol accumulation in the red blood cells of diabetics. In a 58-day study carried out in 1994, researchers investigated the effect of two different doses of vitamin C supplements (100 or 600 mg) on young adults with Type I diabetes. The results showed that within 30 days, vitamin C supplementation at either dose normalized sorbitol levels in those with diabetes.9 Vitamin C may also help to reduce capillary fragility, which also contributes to complications. The ability of the arteries to dilate is impaired in diabetics. Vitamin C supplements improve the response.10 Drugs which are used to reduce sorbitol have many toxic side effects, and vitamin C therapy is beneficial in reducing sorbitol accumulation without the toxicity. Vitamin C has also been shown to reduce the attachment of glucose to proteins, and the damage this causes.
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Vanadium
Vanadium can mimic the effects of insulin on cells in laboratory experiments and reduce the blood sugar levels in rats from high to normal. These benefits are seen with low doses. There have been limited clinical trials with vanadium salts in Type II diabetics, indicating that vanadium may have therapeutic potential in the treatment of diabetes.28
In a study published in 1996, researchers at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York compared the effects of 100 mg/day of oral vanadyl sulfate in moderately obese diabetic and nondiabetic people. The results showed improvements in both liver and skeletal muscle insulin sensitivity in diabetics. Blood fat levels and oxidation were also reduced. Thus vanadium may also be useful in reducing the risk of atherosclerosis in diabetic people.
For years, candida was literally trivialized by the American medical profession as merely a vaguely sexual "women's problem", however it is now becoming clear that Candidiasis is an all too prevalent affliction in both sexes and consistantly appears as either a pre-cursor or as a co-factor in obesity, intestinal & digestive disorders, heart disease, a whole slew of different types of cancer, depression, mood swings, diabetes, chronic fatigue syndrome/fibromialgia, M/S, arthritis, lupus, and a multitude of (other) auto-immune disorders... etc..
It was while treating a large 320-pound woman with insulin dependent diabetes that we learned a valuable lesson regarding the role of iodine in hormone receptor function. This woman had come in via the emergency room with a very high random blood sugar of 1,380 mg/dl. She was then started on insulin during her hospitalization and was instructed on the use of a home glucometer. She was to use her glucometer two times per day. Two weeks later on her return office visit for a checkup of her insulin dependent diabetes she was informed that during her hospital physical examination she was noted to have FBD. She was recommended to start on 50 mg ofiodine(4 tablets) at that time. One week later she called us requesting to lower the level of insulin due to having problems with hypoglycemia. She was told to continue to drop her insulin levels as long as she was experiencing hypoglycemia and to monitor her blood sugars carefully with her glucometer. Four weeks later during an office visit her glucometer was downloaded to my office computer, which showed her to have an average random blood sugar of 98. I praised the patient for her diligent efforts to control her diet and her good work at keeping her sugars under control with the insulin. She then informed me that she had come off her insulin three weeks earlier and had not been taking any medications to lower her blood sugar. When asked what she felt the big change was, she felt that her diabetes was under better control due to the use of iodine. Two years later and 70 pounds lighter this patient continues to have excellent glucose control on iodine 50 mg per day. We since have done a study of twelve diabetics and in six cases we were able to wean all of these patients off of medications for their diabetes and were able to maintain a hemoglobin A1C of less than 5.8 with the average random blood sugar of less than 100. To this date these patients continue to have excellent control of their Type II diabetes. The range of daily iodine intake was from 50 mg to 100 mg per day. All diabetic patients were able to lower the total amount of medications necessary to control their diabetes. Two of the twelve patients were controlled with the use of iodine plus one medication. Two patients have control of diabetes with iodine plus two medications. One patient had control of her diabetes with three medications plus iodine 50 mg. The one insulin dependent diabetic was able to reduce the intake of Lantus insulin from 98 units to 44 units per day within a period of a few weeks.
In the Type 1 diabetics that we have been following we have noted that if C-peptide is measurable, this would suggest that the individual is making their own insulin. I have been able to help this group of patients to get off insulin or to greatly reduce the amount they need for good glucose control with Iodoralâ at 4 tablets/day (50 mg). If C-peptide is absent then we feel there is no insulin being produced and we have not been able to help this particular group of patients to get off their insulin. We have been able to help these patients lower the total amount of insulin needed to control their glucose.
He had read that potassium Iodide solution could be used to treat Candida infestation of the blood. So he put the patient on six to eight drops of Lugol's solution four times a day and soon the patient was again completely well.
Candida produces 79 different toxins known to wreak havoc with the immune system.
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Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:41 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:06 pm
So while milk may reduce the incidence of type 2 diabetes, it would seem that it increases the intensity of those who do get it. These strategies should be explored.
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:41 pm
Hi,have You considered the healing potentials of Essential Oils.If You're willing to learn visit (deleted website as it violates rules)theres a link to healing arts.take care,
Jerry Jay Hanson
[Edited to add] If you think essential oils are going to cure Diabetes, tell us here exactly how. We will hold you to your word.
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Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:41 pm
crystalsage Prodigy
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:59 pm
TrentCoole wrote:
Crystalsage, these links do not work. Can anyone else get them to work? I would like to read these articles as they do look interesting.
ScientistGeorge, what else can you tell us about these chromium supplements. The article you shared with us is dated June 9, 1996 so it is a bit on the old side. I subscribed to the newsletter from the Diabetes in Control site as it looks to be a viable source of information. Hopefully crystalsage, I will be rewarded for doing so rather than the opposite. Also can anyone vouch for any of these approaches mentioned in this thread? Thelma?
Histopathological scores showed that berberine had restored the damage of pancreas tissues in rats with diabetes mellitus. The results showed berberine significantly inhibited the progression of diabetes induced by alloxan, and the inhibitory effect of berberine on diabetes might be associated with its hypoglycemic effect, modulating lipids metabolic effects and its ability to scavenge free radical.
Note they used alloxan in a scientific experiment to induce diabetes in rats....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11829314
...Note also that alloxon is used as a bleach for flour and rice.. so that we can have nice white food.
Through the years, various chemicals have entered the picture to “improve” white flour, including benzoyl peroxide, potassium bromate, ammonium persulfate, alloxan and chlorine dioxide for bleaching. Chlorine dioxide destroys the remaining vitamin E in flour, thus causing the starch to swell; something the baker actually appreciates not knowing how and why it happens. With the vitamins and minerals removed, virtually nothing is left in white flour but raw starch, which has so little nutritive value that most bacteria won’t eat it. To address the problem, synthetic chemicals are added to “enrich” white bread. As early as 1919, the US Public Health Service announced a definite connection between over-refined flour and the diseases beri-beri and pellagra (both of which are vitamin-deficiency diseases). But why is the public still given white flour and white bread as the predominant options today? Because we prefer to buy them.
If you eat anything with white flour in it, (including pasta) you had better read this warning!! Did you know about this?
I was just utterly shocked to have recently discovered another FDA first degree murder! When I studied chemistry forty plus years ago, they were using a fairly benign bleaching agent to bleach white flour. Now it comes out they have started using alloxan! Alloxan is a poison, the most famous spinner up of super oxide free radicals known to science! It is used to chemically produce diabetes in normal rats, because alloxan spins up enormous amounts of free radicals in pancreatic beta cells, utterly destroying them! Aspartame also so damages the mitochondria, that people are then damaged by the free radicals spun up by the damaged mitochondria! (Premature graying for example)
The VERY LAST thing we need added to our diet is alloxan, (A well known grievous poison!) which the FDA now has been force feeding us in white flour! (This includes even pasta!) Boy! Is the FDA ever making it hard to get any wholesome food in this country! Alloxan thus directly interacts with Aspartame to produce multi organ damage, including diabetes and syndrome X! It also makes the poisonings from many other junk-foods far worse, and causes advanced aging (just like Aspartame!) AND, many other DEGENERATIVE DISEASES! I hope this information helps to prove to the New Mexico Legislature, and to the courts that the FDA is now indeed just farcical, since Rumsfeld in 1981 broke everything decent in our government to put the heinous Aspartame into Us!
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Note they are adding Aspartame to many of our foods and medicine... including children's food and medicine...
Implicated in Diabetes
Joel Bockart and Gyslaine Bertrand, researchers at the CNRS-INSERM at Montpellier /France, rely on the obvious resemblance between the cells of the pancreas and neurones in the brain (same enzymes, analogous micro vesicles - synapses), brought to the fore, in the British Journal of Pharmacology, the action of glutamate on the pancreas, the organ responsible for the secretion of insulin. Some diabetes are due to an insufficiency of this hormone. Thus in sugar diabetes, the immune system of sufferers produces auto antibodies, programmed, notably, to destroy, in the cells of the pancreas, an indispensable enzyme constituted from glutamate.
This leaves us to think if there is, in the pancreas and in the brain, the same glutamate receptor.
This discovery has challenged future medications (analogues of glutamate) which allow the slowing of the progression of Alzheimer’s disease. But, effective in the brain, they could have secondary effects on peripheral organs (risk of starting diabetes in sufferers).
5.The battle of Glutamate and Aspartame
Convinced of the dangers which glutamate represents as a food additive, Olney is going to defy the all powerful Food and Drug Administration (FDA):
“The doses of glutamate which you find in pots of baby food or prepared soups are sufficient [...], to destroy neurones in the brain [...].”
You could recently have read in the French magazine Le Panorama medical that “the doses of glutamate ingested by children are sometimes so high, that when given orally to a young animal they purely and simply cause the destruction of the central nervous system. A child of 10 kg ingests in a sachet of instant soup between 1000 and 1300 mg of glutamate, namely a quantity well above that which one finds naturally in the brain and equal to that which kills the brain stem of guinea pigs”.
This means that, if all individuals are sensitive to glutamate, the 20,000 tonnes of glutamate manufactured and used each year in the United States by consumers is roughly enough to destroy the brains of 225 million Americans.
In 1970 the FDA and the manufacturers gave in ... over baby foods...!!
Until now, the US health authorities have refused to enter into the debate (the FDA didn’t send a representative to a recent round table of the Society for Neuroscience dedicated to this theme) and glutamate is still on the list of authorised food additives (5). [...]
In addition to the pure and simple banning of glutamate as a food additive, Olney wages a war against the artificial sweetener aspartame, because this contains aspartic acid, another amino acid which toxically excites neurones.
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Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:09 pm
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ASPARTAME AND SACCHARIN IN WEIGHT LOSS//Not http://www.nahanniriverherbs.com/94,159
* The brain has a conditioned response in reaction to something that is sweet.
* It is called "cephalic phase response".
* This response is established as a result of a life long experience with sugar, and the body's perception of the arrival of new energy (sugar).
* When the taste of an artificial sweetener such as aspartame stimulates the tongue, the brain programs the liver to prepare for the arrival of new energy (sugar) from outside.
* The liver, in turn, stops the manufacture of starch and protein from reserves in the body, and instead begins to store the glucose (energy) that is circulating in the blood stream.
* Foods having a sweet taste without the accompanying calories (sugar-free usually = low calories) stimulate the taste buds, creating an urge to eat and thus overeat.
* It is the liver that produces the signals and the urge to eat. The cephalic phase response triggers the release of insulin, which stores sugar in the blood stream.
* This creates low blood sugar, which leads to the development of increased cravings and appetite.
* Studies have shown that this urge to eat more food after using artificial sweeteners such as aspartame can last up to 90 minutes after the meal or snack.
* It has been shown that the brain retains the urge to eat for a long time, when the taste buds for sugar are stimulated, without any sugar having entered the system.
* The sweet taste of artificial sweeteners such as aspartame will cause the brain to program the liver to store supplies rather than release supplies from its storage.
* This may be the reason why individuals who use diet soda for weight loss may suffer the need for repeated stimulation of the taste buds with sugar stimulation.
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A simple vitamin deficiency may be the cause of many of the side effects of diabetes, a study suggests.
Researchers found people with the disease expelled thiamine - vitamin B1 - from their bodies at 15 times the normal rate in a study of 94 people.
The Warwick University team said thiamine helped ward off complications such as heart disease and eye problems, the Diabetologia journal said.
Experts said diet supplements could potentially help people with diabetes.
It has been missed in the past because of the way thiamine levels were measured.
Traditionally, the activity of an enzyme called transketolase in red blood cells has been used to indicate thiamine levels.
But the researchers found that increased activity - usually a sign of high thiamine levels - was also associated with the body's response to deficiency.
Instead, the team measured thiamine levels in blood plasma and found concentrations were 76% lower in people with type 1 diabetes and 75% lower in people with type 2.
Thiamine is key to warding off vascular problems such as kidney, retina and nerve damage as well as heart disease and stroke.
It works by helping protect cells against the effect of high glucose levels.
Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:32 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:53 am
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I think that we have to be careful here..and to emphasise that..as yet..there is no cure for diabetes..and I quote..
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Since there is no cure for diabetes, maintaining good health requires a lifelong commitment to blood sugar control--on-again, off-again efforts are not effective. The self-care requirements of diabetes, or any chronic disease, can be psychologically difficult to adjust to, and resisting the need to follow a regular, day-in and day-out, care plan is a common reaction. The result is that some people seek alternative treatments, if not outright "miracle cures," that seem easier or more "natural" and that allow them to avoid dealing with the realities of a chronic disease
Yesterday in my opinion we made great leaps in drawing closer to a cure for all diabetics. I have been following stem cell developments for years.
I looked back the forums and found this post from which I have taken a quote.
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I would rather wait for the procedure which is being developed as we speak.
The August 2004 Lancet discussed the replacement of a German mouth-cancer patient’s removed jawbone. Using his own stem cells, doctors spent seven weeks growing him a new mandible around wire mesh. Once implanted, he tested it by biting into a Frankfurter. He soon resumed eating normally.
Adult stem cells have helped some 60 paraplegics and quadriplegics regain sensation and movement. Stem cells from their own nasal cavities helped spinal-injury victims Laura Dominguez, Susan Fajt, and Erica Nader stand up and walk with braces.
This is the way to go for me Using his/her own stem cells
No rejection or allergic reaction worries.
Hopefully it wont be too long
So here we are 4 yrs later and yesterday this very encouraging piece of news hit the headlines concerning a trachea replacement. Same techniques would be used with pancreas replacement.Eventually.
link
Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:06 am
cruiser Numen
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:41 pm
Thank You Crystalsage, for all of the interesting links to do w/diabetes.
Much appreciated.
Ps.... lets hope for the ongoing stem cell research, Thelma. Looks to be promising.
edit to show that stem and cell are two words
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Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:41 pm
crystalsage Prodigy
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:46 pm
Yes and once we grow the new pancreas we will know how to look after it better.. what foods to avoid.. what vitamins may keep it healthy.
One thing that is worrying me.. seeing our body utilizes the stem cells from our nose to replace problem areas where necessary..
This new fashion for nasal sprays for various treatments... wouldn't they damage or mutate some of these stem cells?
Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:46 pm
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Henry I. Miller was an early advocate of biotechnology and drugs, and continues to be so as a fellow at the Hoover Institute even though he no longer works for the FDA. Miller began work for the FDA as head of a special department created to establish new procedures for approving drugs created through biotechnology. In his book "To America's Health: A Model for Reform of the Food and Drug Administration" (Hoover Institution Press, 2000), Miller states that he pushed for rapid approval of biosynthetic insulin from his boss, who was not comfortable approving it on such short notice, especially when it had been tested on so few people. Amazingly, Miller admits that he actually waited for his boss to go on vacation, and then took the approval to his boss' boss, who then approved the drug[7].
As far as technical details, the specific gene sequence, or oligonucleotide, that codes for insulin production in humans was introduced to a sample colony of E. coli (the bacteria found in feces). Only about 1 out of 106 bacteria picks up the sequence. However, this is not really a problem, because the lifecycle is only about 30 minutes for E. coli. This means that in a 24-hour period, there may be billions of E. coli that are coded with the DNA sequences needed to induce insulin production.[8]
However, a sampling of initial reaction showed that Humulin was greeted more as a technological rather than a medical breakthrough, and that this sentiment was building even before the drug reached pharmacies. As early as 1980, the British magazine New Scientist reported, "Other big chemical manufacturers predict that Eli Lilly's massive $40 million investment in two plants to make insulin - may be a classic example of backing a loser."[6] The Economist concluded: "The first bug-built drug for human use may turn out to be a commercial flop. But the way has now been cleared-and remarkably quickly, too - for biotechnologists with interesting new products to clear the regulatory hurdles and run away with the prizes."[6]
Ultimately, widespread consumer adoption of biosynthetic "human" insulin did not occur until the manufacturers removed highly-purified animal insulin from the market.
Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:37 am
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:50 pm
My compliments to you crystalsage on your knowledge of alternative health. ive learned alot in the past from sites you posted and have not met many people with the knowledge you have on the subject. Many of the things done to improve health by natural foods, herbs, vitamins, and remedies all help bring the body back into balance.
I always make aware the benefits of body Ph balance. when I first heard of the body Ph balance it was said once on TV and I think the FTC FDA forbid it to be said again. The quote was " Your body has a Ph Acid Alkaline Balance, If your body is Alkaline you cannot get cancer and disease, and if you have it, it goes away. Well thats a cure. That man who said it is Kevin Trudeau, a reporter and whistle blower. His book Natural Cures'they dont want you to know about' is corect and true and many sites verify his findings and have learned much on the internet after reading his book also.
My personal findings is as long as diabetes is not past the point of no return as well as cancer it CAN BE REVERSED. Yes I said it reversed as in cured.(in My opinion statement, for FTC FDA reasons) If the body by knowing what to do can go back into a balanced state, disease and cancer canot live in the Alkaline body. A secret known for decades, Dr. Otto Warburg won the Nobel peace prize for his research finding the cause of cancer in the 1930s - body acidosis.
SODA with a Ph of 1 (water a perfect balance 7), SODA is in my opinion the main cause of diabetes disease and cancer. Kids diabetes an all time high why? All they drink is SODA. People say to me silly things like what else is there to drink? Ive even heard I hate water. Wow I said let me leave you on an desert island for a day and when i come back with water youll love it like a gift from god. Now what to drink - Water, Tea, Juices.
The main thing I did to learn these things was two things I searched Body Ph Balance and read the NATURAL CURES book by Kevin Trudeau. I also read of The Memory of Water Dr. Emoto and from a great scientist Dr. Patrick Flanagan among other scientists ive learned about frequencies like Nicola Tesla, also Negative magnetic charged water, and of our own frequencies we have ourselves. - Anuatlantian
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Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:50 pm
crystalsage Prodigy
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:58 am
I was told by a lady who was into the old fashioned remedies for health... that in the old days.. as well as the cod liver oil.. it was the old bi carb.. the Eno.. http://www.gsk.com.au/products_consumer-healthcare-products_detail.aspx?view=63
that was given to maintain health. She too mentioned how disease only functions in an acid environment..
Maybe just do an Atkin's inspired diet for a short term to help eliminate Candida type infestations and other negative fungal infestations that are now known to promote arthritis and many other diseases...
I can do another thread on this if you like....
I gather the Buddhist wisdom of the 'Middle Road' is the way to go...
B1 (thiamine)
drinking wine depletes it (sulphite preservative or SO2 added to wines , beer and foods like sausages, dried fruit..like apricots etc).. destroys B1 ? (question is how much ?)
Beri beri is the deficiency state.. BUT at low level of deficiency ya get things like, poor coordination, tingling in arms and legs,depression, muscle weakness.. I had all of those, and I've been taking B1 daily as single tablets and the tingling seems to be lessening.. but it could also be that I've increased by thyroid hormones too ..as hypothyroid also causes depression, tingling, muscle weakness and loss of coordination
perhaps like the B12 one (pernicious anaemia for b12).. that if you take lots of B12 you can overcome it..might be the case with me and B1.. but probably I was hypo too..I was a bit in blood tests.
With the B12 the poor absorption increases with age, especially in over 60's I think.. but probably inover 40's to a reduced extent.
There is a "rare" autoimmune B1 deficiency problem ..similar idea to pernicious anaemia for B12 I suspect?.. but not considered as its rare.
I asked my ex-endo if he could test for this or low B1 but he refused.. he siad low B1 was rare . I suggested as it was never tested for?. he said it was, it just never showed up. i'm unsure if he meant low b1 or the autoimmune B1 absorption problem.
The endo tested me for coeliac instead!!(which i had no symptoms of and had already tested negative for?), and pronounced me fine?? He refused to test B1.
What if the autoimmune B1 was as common a pernicious anemia?
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“Irradiation destroys vitamins, eg. ( B1) essential fatty acids and other nutrients in food."
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