This Is Change? 20 Hawks, Clintonites and Neocons to Watch for in Obama's White House


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He's got the giant teeth for the job.


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"Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an ecosystem of spiritual possibilities." - Wade Davis

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

Have you not heard the saying, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer!?"


Namana

a wolf in shepard's clothing , perhaps?

Ya, it's pretty much hopeless ain't it.... same, same, just a SLIGHTLY different color. Oh, but he can talk much better than the last one. all the more scary, he comes with brains....


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Covering the truth by inciting

Obama supports Bush in India

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=897668

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/india-has-right-protect-itself-obama

http://www.truthout.org/112908A

The diplomatic farce being done in order to cover up the truth by inciting animosity in a very sensitive relationship between the two countries. The two handed approach of coming to a peaceful meeting to contain the psychological warfare being done to both countries would only lead to inciting a loathing of the masses but far from the truth of being manipulated into going to war. Someone is adamant to make this to happen since previous to this there has been a series of trial and actual conspiracy type of attempt.

Such as a CNN news said that before the attack took place a top European officials left within ten minutes upon arrival in those hotels; a local military officer had claims of blaming Islamic elements when it’s not; unknown group as ‘Deccan Mu’ is being blame but no information until now; the way a professional mercenary assault in a city was done; the BBC news channel where just talking to someone who had stayed at the Taj Hotel recently stating “that the hotel had little security, but what little they had was removed a week ago”………. coincidence?

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message673540/pg14 (this has a vivid Sky, CNN, BBC telecast on the hour posting)

The two countries has been on the mends with traditional border wars and the improving of relationships due to the MAD (mutual assured destruction) method of cold war style of strategic positioning, that alone would make you think of who encourage and made those to happen. A joint community patching up the relations between the two countries under the 5th round of interior/home secretary level talks between Pakistan and India on Terrorism and Drugs Trafficking is being initiated by the them to further the stabilise and open country relation. this has become a welcome improvement feel between the two countries.

www.chinaview.cn

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message673540/pg14 (this has a vivid Sky, CNN, BBC telecast on the hour posting)

The question of why? Well the failure to make ‘Iran War’ to happen will be done through this way (and definitely will be to do with terrorist support and nuclear capabilities reasons). The TPTB is not interested to see Iran comply (as they are doing it but making us believes of the opposite). But the real motivation lies on making the war to materialise in the name of colonising under the globalisation enterprise by hostile takeovers in corporate investments through partnerships with government and international commerce and help further the flourishing the ‘WAR’ business and industries to continue profiting (via supply and demand to practical ‘combat proven’ and R&Ds).

The oil fields and pipe lines are needed to be unified to further the monopoly of it under the guise of global and regional security. Because the traditional monarch controlled ones of OPEC (organisation of the petroleum exporting countries) such as Saudi, Brunei and etch are too modernise and at par with the tricks of TPTB have been smartly in tune with their business counter parts (and near impossible to topple) whereas these ones have the strategic importance and high supply percentages. Notably the method of hostile takeover is more doable with countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran, and has the components needed to commerce and globalisation.

Since oil has been the key element that has been the only one to have strangle hold in use to control the world through monetary economic against countries/social/business structure to control the masses. No other element that has been able to effectively enslave masses in a global way, that is why no other minerals are not considered to be in the drawing board since the abundance of accessibility will be detrimental to the world control.

For example LPG from natural gas which is abundant to all countries in order to avoid a global calamity in economic transitioning replacing oil dependence global economy. LPG is much easier and safer to produce with high technological advancement compare to the alternative hydrogen economy. Hydrogen is seems to be becoming a failure to influence supply and demand elements due to technology limitations which they are banking to improve so they are able to apply to the masses of individual dependency; if this happens it will be far more favourable to them base on technology control.

Creating a carbon emission tax (about to happen to US) is even worst on us on; on why are we going to be taxed on something we are using and be penalized because there is no alternative for us and even at some case force on us by making other free energy illegal through technicalities. This is to support a tax under the guise of environmental protection to further profit from the created economic situation.

The further enslaving of us to the oil dependency technology (and limited technology on renewable type sourcing); stretching the whole point of - ‘gaining these areas as detrimental to world peace and security that is why they are needed to be control’ - kinda makes you think what global influence those areas could really make.

Kissinger: Obama's task is to help create a New World Order

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Well, it's all out in the open but...are people watching and understanding what's going on?

I doubt it.


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Yeah, he will change things alright.....for the WORSE.

If you think things were bad with Bush just wait till you see what's coming. In the next two years, you will be wishing things were back the way they were 3 or 4 years ago.

Socialism here we come - check your liberties and fredom at the door people.




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Discrepancy about Obama

Unknown until 2008, 143 days of senate experience (not allowed to be nominated with less than 365 days), Democratic convention seen Kucinich won by majority but Obama and Clinton came on top, an executive director of Acorn (he trained them in perfecting the intimidations technique) which he had denied but are named in most court cases and signed as prior to his political move just about 3 years previous from being elected, some fraudulent and embezzlement links for misappropriating of company and public funds, known association with corrupt and criminal (links to mafia and very questionable ties), most of his financial gains came from real estate and small banking loans via Acorn that are the cost of economic meltdown, the campaign money where did it come from (there is a limit to funding to determine corruption) - McCain spent $26,000 per hr in the last few weeks prior to election at $41 M contrast to Obama on $293,000 per hour in undisclosed period of time or half a billion that has far exceed appropriation of funding limits (Obama’s fund raising is $27.5M and contributions are at $29.4M compare to known media presidential campaign expense at $339.8M...try auditing that)....these are the stains his media laundry washing machines can not clean and lints appearing and easily brushed off (just check how deeply involve he is with the governor and knowledge to his seat being sold to start with, about the bailout execs)...he was put there on a purpose obviously

American first, ethnicity second should have been the point of view but they capitalise on the latter.

Removed story & link as it was found to be false.

apologies to mods and admin if I did wrong here.



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obama has already stated the constitution is outdated or some such drivel.

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Obama is heard telling Chicago's public station WBEZ-FM in 2001 that "redistributive change" is needed, pointing to what he regarded as a failure of the U.S. Supreme Court under Chief Justice Earl Warren in its rulings on civil rights issues in the 1960s.

The Warren court, he said, failed to "break free from the essential constraints" in the U.S. Constitution and launch a major redistribution of wealth. But Obama, then an Illinois state lawmaker, said the legislative branch of government, rather than the courts, probably was the ideal avenue for accomplishing that goal.

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statistics can be used to prove anything
14% of people know that.

never attribute to conspiracy that which can amply be attributed to the actions of a bunch of greedy stupid self serving men in power

yes i can read minds. yours is blank most days..

No humility at all with this freakin' guy... I mean, what is he, a cyborg or something?!?


An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in his Speeches

Obama’s Program Of War


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"Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an ecosystem of spiritual possibilities." - Wade Davis

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

Obama comes in the name of "change", "hope", and something to "believe in". but no one seems to ask what that actually means. Obama knows that many people in the US do not like their living conditions and a sense of "change", "hope", and something to "believe in" is a perfect technique to draw their energy. Obama is far more dangerous than Bush, i guess you can say that he has more effective infiltrating techniques, Bush is pretty transparent.

Hitler also came in the name of change, hope, and something to believe in when Germany was in a time of financial and economical turmoil. the German people saw Hitler as a "messiah" as well, just like the mainstream US sees Obama .

history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes

You hit the nail on the head, DaZuesMon! That's exactly the reason why Obama is there.

Just who is Barack Hussein Obama? America's defender... or destroyer

Obama WTF: Obama's Documented Lies: 158 and remarkably still growing

House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill


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"Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an ecosystem of spiritual possibilities." - Wade Davis

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

Ten Questions For Everyone Who Supported Obama


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"Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an ecosystem of spiritual possibilities." - Wade Davis

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

MM

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An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in his Speeches

Obamanoids … For Real!:
This doesn’t seem so farfetched after all. It surfaced during the presidential campaign. “An Examination of Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches” purports to contain “over 60 pages of evidence and analysis proving Barack Obama’s use of a little-known and highly deceptive and manipulative form of ‘hack’ hypnosis on millions of unaware Americans, and reveals what only a few psychologists and hypnosis/NLP experts know.” It deserves a serious look in light of the following.

Time Magazine has written a story on Obama’s use of brainwashing scientists, hired to influence, persuade and control the masses.

"President Obama is still relying on behavioral science. But now his Administration is using it to try to transform the country. Because when you know what makes people tick, it’s a lot easier to help them change."

FULL ARTICLE:



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Hey mad30,

If you look 4 post above yours you'll see that MM has already brought that to us.


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Whoops, guess that deserves a quote! Though, the information at the 2 links provide different information on the same subject. Namely, the social engineers behind the Obama campaign and a brief history of mass psychology and crowd control techniques.

I don't think Obama is a master hypnotist but a lot of people seem to treat him as if he is. Damn that Bush, setting the bar so freaking low!!!

Obama is a good speaker, but you have to wonder how much of that spacing, pausing, framing of words and controlled range of topics, is meant to lull people into some mesmerized state of renewed patriotic duty and President worship. The NWO marches onward, now more subtle, user friendly, and minty fresh!


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Obama is just a wall in which the real rulers of the country hide behind telling everyone what to do. The Unfortunate truth is that the USA is one of the most organized Communist country in the world. Most poeple who dont agree are to thick headed and usually to patriotic to realize whats happening around them.

Very true my wolf friend
USA is were id rather be and you got to love where your at. if you didnt love your country you wouldnt fight to make things better. Point for the new chief is hes not the real boss. The famillies that own the world Bank and oil are.

But he has the power. Last real prez we had was Kennedy. They thought he was young and good to keep the people calm. But he used his power for the real good. He said no to Vietnam. He stopped the Cuban missle crissis. He also started the signing of the article that would take back the Federal Reserve to the U.S. Then he was taken out after that.

This new Prez need to take care of his own first. People are living in tents and hungry homeless and unemployed. The companies are taking their buisness overseas. Why because 2 things. One, we as workers are too greedy wanting 30 dollars an hour with our unions. Two, the companies are greedy and go overseas where they pay 25 cents an hour.

There should be a cap on the rents. Here in New York City rent it 2000 for a one bedroom. People move out in 2 months and it goes up another 200 and this is happening near the city also.

People are loosing their houses because they want the loan from the bank so bad to get the house they take any loan. They dont get a fixed rate interest on it and later have to pay 2-3 times more a month that they started, and cant afford it any more, they loose the home and the investment.

The world does need a council of the world. Just to keep in line the countries. A big table of countries united that keep rouge countries from getting out of hand like North Korea with its nuke program, or Pakistan from becoming overthrone by the Taliban. A very serious thing, if the Taliban take pakistan. They can start a nuclear war against the rest of the world.

In iraq Bush did the right thing by taking Sadam out of power. But after liberating the country should have sent the troops back home and help the iraq people elect a new leader and governors for the new country.

I want to give this new Prez a chance to see what change for the good he can do. He has the power to do the right thing. You have to have hope for a better plan for the future. in the next years things may get worst before things eventualy get better.


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obama taught constitutional law at the university of chicago.
to bad he cant keep his administration within the guidelines he taught.
as far as hypnosis, i rather think he has the gift of speech, along the lines of hitler (who had the gift of speech as well).


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statistics can be used to prove anything
14% of people know that.

never attribute to conspiracy that which can amply be attributed to the actions of a bunch of greedy stupid self serving men in power

yes i can read minds. yours is blank most days..

Obama is not in control he is like a mega phone for the real poeple in charge. They tell him what to say and he says it.

Obama's 100 days - the mad men did well

Muslim chosen to speak at Obama inaugural prayer allegedly tied to Hamas

Masonic Ball To Honor Obama


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"Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an ecosystem of spiritual possibilities." - Wade Davis

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

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On Tuesday january 20 2009, Barack Hussein Obama was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States of America. The oath of office was administered by Chief Justice of the United States John Robberts, The inauguration didn’t really go as planned for Roberts stumbled slightly over the solemn ceremonial words causing the well spoken Obama to stammer as well. On the 21st of januari the inauguration was repeated at the White House to take away all possible objections of a possible unlawful inauguration. This time in the absence of the press Obama and Roberts were alone in the Map Room with Bejamin Latrobe whose portrait is hanging from the wall over the fireplace. Latrobe is the great architect of the Capitol in Washington. Noteworthy is the fact that Latrobe is a freemason and as such Obama was taken the oath in the presence of a freemason. Another interesting fact is that no Bible was used at the second inauguration! The day before during the official inauguration, the Bible that was used for the inauguration of the 16th president of the USA, Abraham Lincoln was used as one of the most important ceremonial objects.


Obama is taken the oath without a Bible on January 21st in the presence of freemason Benjamin Latrobe in the background.

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"Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an ecosystem of spiritual possibilities." - Wade Davis

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

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. Another interesting fact is that no Bible was used at the second inauguration! The day before during the official inauguration, the Bible that was used for the inauguration of the 16th president of the USA, Abraham Lincoln was used as one of the most important ceremonial objects.

A question, why do so many, even non Christian people find it objectionable when bible is not used for a person to take an oath? It is after all just a book.

Myself, being a non "Christian", I would find it hypicritical to be sworn in on a bible. I also find it reasuring that there are those in the gov who at least have had more exposure to other religious and "non" religious belief systems.

So what is the big deal about the bible? It does not represent freedom, in my opinion, it represents quite the opposite. It does not represent the constitution or even support the beliefs of many within the US. I personally find the requirement that people be sworn in with their hand on the bible to be considered honest and truthful to be very biased and discriminatory as if only Christians are honest.

Namana

I totally agree, but I think that you missed my point.

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Another interesting fact is that no Bible was used at the second inauguration! The day before during the official inauguration, the Bible that was used for the inauguration of the 16th president of the USA, Abraham Lincoln was used as one of the most important ceremonial objects.

Why use it one day and then not the next? Does this mean that Obama cares more about his Freemason oath than his Christian oath? Does it mean that he was never a Christian to begin with? So many questions...

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This time in the absence of the press Obama and Roberts were alone in the Map Room with Bejamin Latrobe whose portrait is hanging from the wall over the fireplace. Latrobe is the great architect of the Capitol in Washington.

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"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

Hi guys,

I agree to all your arguments, but the fact of fraudulent behaviour is a very questionable motive for being the president of any countries for that matter.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=44501823

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=47501986

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?id=N00009638

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P2egIBfe7U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6kKPcYbM0&feature=related

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtuIByPe7ic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SlBlvirqA0&feature=related

Just look at his achievement so far.....

......he achieve to further help out the globalise corporations using the tax payer's money that in turn just further put those those tax payers further in debt with them. He even justified their getting bonuses while those corporations was able to re-structure due to technology and consolidate their power base by killing off the small and medium business to be under their control as well as downsizing.

.....he achieve to further killed off than revive as like being no where near the promise public medical help system that got him elected.

.....he achieve to not close Guatanemo which is a morally wrong to humanity as being hypocritical to a democratic society; he showed no real effort to it and even made sure it fails.

....he achieve to transfer Iraq to Afghanistan and has been building more military business structure than open economy ones

....he achieve the stimulus for those few from his chosen corporations

So the question of what has he really achieve so far for Americans?

http://au.truveo.com/Barack-Obama-Is-A-Fraud/id/2557736070

http://au.truveo.com/Barack-Obama-Is-A-Fraud/id/2557736070