The Book Of THoTH

This may or may not have been posted before. I am only going to include the link rather than my opinon as I prefer to jump in on the discussion regarding this subject should anyone decide to post their insights....If not. Oh well...enjoy the article. Link below


How Did We All Come From Adam and Eve?

EDIT> updated the broken link (WT)

Do we all come from the same Adam and Eve?

all share genes?



http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/molgen/

interesting....

We are told that humans share 96 to99% genes with cows and pigs...

so if we lived near nuclear power stations .. or radioactive beaches.... would mutations occur that would give us cow or pig characteristics? or would our children have these mutations??

then there are the genomes... and it appears that most of our 'junk genomes' are active...

What are we doing to ourselves with the Gene splicing. and mixing animal ,human, plant and insect genes..... what genomes.. junk genes/genomes are we incorporating??? what new skills.. possibilities will we acquire???


What would Darwin have made of the Human Genome Project?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/ ... ed=science






"Immunocows", "golden eggs" and "plantibodies" are just some of the buzzwords flying around in an industry with the potential to earn billions for the drugs companies involved, who are fighting each other tooth and nail for patents to the technology.

http://ngin.tripod.com/210102a.htm

This is a wonderful article, thanks for posting.

I like this quote

The diference is that we have proof of the fact that the airplanes have a designer behind them in the form of blueprints and boeing factories. There is no proof however that our universe as a whole was created by some sort of external entity, which is why it's religion and not science. There might come a day that there will pop up proof that will move it from religion to science or there might not. But the lack of an explanation does not mean we have to jump to wild assumptions that have been fed into human culture by archaïc beliefs.

Zetanian, where do I start???????

So somehow you think that because there are blueprints to a airplane it has a creator. So where are the blueprints to the pyramid? No blueprints? I bet you still think they were made by people even without blueprints and a factory,right? Can you prove it exists by blueprints or a factory? No? You just believe it because it stands to reason that only people can build such a thing. Or did the pyramids just form themselves? Did dirt and stone evolve into the shape of huge blocks which happen to build themselves into a pyramid? How is that any different than someone believing that DNA just happened to make itself into millions of different creatures of the Earth that eventually evolved into humans. It just all "happened" by accident. OK - Yeah right!

So I'm to believe that if I take a watch apart and put it into a bag, shake it up, it will eventually put itself to together and become a perfectly working watch again? Seriously, that's the same "theory" as evolution. All this stuff just simply exists, it formed planets by chance, that formed water by chance, that formed living cells by chance and eventually became human, ALL by chance right?

Everything that makes up everything somehow got shaken up and it made all the stars and planets, and Earth, and plants and animals and DNA and etc, etc.? Umm ok.

Seriously, how do people think everything came into being? People can believe what they want and call it what they want, but not believing in something is a religion too. Believing in evolution is no different than believing in a creator. They are both faith based assumptions. I personally find it a whole lot easier to believe that something created humans than it just "happened" by coincidence over millions of years.

As the article states, if evolution where true than wouldn't there be "evidence" that things are in the middle of changing, such as an arm turning into a feather. I mean over millions of years of having animals on the planet wouldn't there be animals in various stages of transformation that would be obvious. Or does a penguin just all of a sudden give birth to a bird/fish/grasshopper mixture. There is NO evidence of anything changing into something else. There is evidence of different breeds of the same thing such as dogs and cats, but nothing about dogs turning into cats.

You believe a plane came to be a plane because someone put it together right, well how is that any different than me believing that someone put humans together. You can believe all you want that someone "made" the pyramids of Egypt but you don't have "proof" do you? NO you simply have a theory and a structure. There are no blueprints to the pyramids, there are no factories to make pyramids. I have a theory of how people where made. So why does your theory trump mine?

If you really sit down and think about how, what and why everything is, you will undoubtedly believe something or someone had to create all of this. It couldn't just happen out of the blue, no more than a plan can make itself out of the blue. Both had to be put together.

I don't care if you believe in the bible or Jesus or Allah or whoever, but deep deep deep down everyone at one time or another believed or believes in something unexplainable being in control of everything.

I don't claim to know what created life or how it came to being. That's the work of abiogenesists and astronomers, but just filling a gap with a god just because it's convenient stumps us from getting any factual based answers.

I will also grab this opportunity to adress this first misconception alot of people seem to be having about evolution. Evolution is not all about "chance" or "randomeness". Evolution is a process where certain random mutations are passed on and selected trough a non-random system of natural selection that is based on their compability with their environement.



How's atheïsm also a religion? Atheïsts do not make assumptions about things they can't know or have proof off, unlike religion, where dogma is key and the whole point of it is to take things as the truth without getting any factional backup.
Which is fine, anyone is free to believe or not to believe what they want. But calling atheism a religion puts the definition of "religion" and "faith" on it's head.

Also, if it's a religion, where's our tax exemption?




Something that is easier to believe or accept does not make it fact. For the medieval man it was also easier to believe that the earth was flat and not round because they assumed you would slide off because it's a sphere. Untill science teached us about gravity.



Again, evolution has nothing to do with faith. It is founded on evidence in the form of transitional species, the observation of mutations, in DNA, in the locations of these fossils in the soil etc... In short: hard tangible data.

Also, if evolution does not take place how come we don't find fossils of dogs or horses in the cretacious area? Or did god trickle life onto earth in this carefully ordered manner that would make it seem life evolved, became more complicated and changed to what it is now in this chronological fashion. All to trick us?



In fact there is obvious evidence of transitional species. Here's a nice list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tr ... al_fossils
It's a classic creationist strawman argument that is simply rooted in ignoring the facts.

It's also funny how alot of creationists support microevolution, like you do, but not macroevolution. The fact is, that if you aknowledge microevolution you also aknowledge macroevolution. Macroevolution is simply microevolution over a longer period of time.



Again, it is different because we have documented evidence of the process where human beings are making planes. We do not have evidence of the process of some divine entity making the universe or life.
For the pyramids, it has everything to do with archeological and circumstantional evidence that supports the claim they were build by human hand for a certain use. So you're right, no blueprints or factories.

In short, it's all about data. Where is the data that supports the claim that there is an all knowing creator?

Your whole arguement is, that if something exists someone or something should have created it. This, however, means you're merely moving the question. Because who created god then? Or is that one an exeption to the rule somehow?



Nope, sorry.

But I won't rule out the possibility. Nor won't I for the existence of the flying spaghettimonster, Vishnoe, Ra, Thor or unicorns. But I would refrain from picking any of them up into schoolbooks untill science provides evidence.

In sharing what I have learned and have come to believe as true, is the story of the Annunaki and the Enuma Elish. There is a genealogy that indicates that Adam and Eve are actually Adamu and Tiamut from their story. As one can see there are progressions of the names as the story goes. Understanding that this story indicates that the Annunaki, needing workers to relieve them from the heavy work that they were doing created workers thru the DNA manipulation and knowledge of the universe. What needs to be remembered here is this, this story as well as others predate the Bible. There is an inference that should be made at this point – thu history it is understood that countless annals of information have been lost and destroyed. Thank goodness for the stories that have survived. Understanding the realities of what life must have been like and the way that the stories indicate that civilizations come and go it is remarkable that thes stories are available. Now consider the stories that did not survive.
This is not just whishful thinking similar stories are present in virtually all cultures around the world. The Annunaki story addresses every issue, the virgin birth resurrection and the whole. What needs to be inferred and understood is that there were multiple stories but when it came to to preserving the record only the most important ones were kept. There were second and third stories of mates that must have been created to populate the world this is just the story of the first. The other stories were either not written down or were destroyed. The mere fact that the stories are the same across the world indicate there may/must have been different people but just the one story. We all must use our brains to know what the stories are intending for us to understand. Remember the powers that be want you to get stuck in your thinking.