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 Post subject: If the mayans and the Bible is correct,the Beast has risen!
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The Mayan Calander ends in 2012. In revelations the beast rises 7 years before the end, December 21 2005.



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Well, according to Revelation it's prophecies were forthcoming during the times the book was written rather than numerous centuries into the future. It wouldn't be compatible with the Mayan calendar. "The Beast" in Revelation appears to have been a metaphorical referrence to Nero Caesar.


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Well, according to Revelation it's prophecies were forthcoming during the times the book was written rather than numerous centuries into the future. It wouldn't be compatible with the Mayan calendar. "The Beast" in Revelation appears to have been a metaphorical referrence to Nero Caesar.


That is what some interpret but How can we be sure it is true.



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We have difficulty interpreting each other's posts on this forum...even folks we think we know.

I have no faith in any interpretation of anything as a general rule...especially if the original was written in a different language over 10 minutes earlier. I have a lot of opinions though about what is cropping up now. I put on the high water waders some years back. :roll:

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At some point someone will rise and everything we thought we knew to be true will become false.

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Or even worse, that there were some who actually came to this rock with knowledge that nobody would hear.........

Think of all the folks you thought were fools, or idiots, or tried to put down in public. What if those were the ones sent with the knowing to share with those not too dead to understand?

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Ummm PS..."you" not meaning you....just in general you! That always gets me into trouble in the forums. :lol:



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Or even worse, that there were some who actually came to this rock with knowledge that nobody would hear.........

Think of all the folks you thought were fools, or idiots, or tried to put down in public. What if those were the ones sent with the knowing to share with those not too dead to understand?

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Ummm PS..."you" not meaning you....just in general you! That always gets me into trouble in the forums. :lol:


It seems every culture was visited by a being with knowledge of the future and knowledge period. Quetzalcoatl, Thoth, Etc. I believe this was a man who escaped the planet before it's demise and was able to travel back in time with nanobots(Immortal) and warn us, and himself in the future, of the end that is to come.



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First guys ... lets get something straight

the mayan date dec 21, 2012

... the mayans give this date in Reference to return of their GOD. "kukulkan"

This date is in his return.. His promise.


Also kukulkan was a fair skinned ..Real Large White caucasian. But he is also portrayed in Ancient drawings as a uncanny resemblance to the sumer Gods "Annunakii " being real tall Giant like , and also this is around the same timeframe as sumers too.


So its safe to say ...kukulkan was mosl likely Annunaki. then most likely he was from Nibiru too also


which goes in conjunction with the bible. and a End all event when the Planet came to close and caused the great flood.

And wont happen again , Because gods promise made apon man to never flood it adain.


So the date of Dec,21 2012 is the return of the gods. the date the Anitchrist will come forth . and 7 years he will rule. then return of


Jesus with the real god. 7 years later.


But remember God and the Antichrist are the same species .. Annunakii but one god one bad. Or one that is portrayed as evil .


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First guys ... lets get something straight

the mayan date dec 21, 2012

... the mayans give this date in Reference to return of their GOD. "kukulkan"

This date is in his return.. His promise.


Also kukulkan was a fair skinned ..Real Large White caucasian. But he is also portrayed in Ancient drawings as a uncanny resemblance to the sumer Gods "Annunakii " being real tall Giant like , and also this is around the same timeframe as sumers too.


So its safe to say ...kukulkan was mosl likely Annunaki. then most likely he was from Nibiru too also


which goes in conjunction with the bible. and a End all event when the Planet came to close and caused the great flood.

And wont happen again , Because gods promise made apon man to never flood it adain.


So the date of Dec,21 2012 is the return of the gods. the date the Anitchrist will come forth . and 7 years he will rule. then return of


Jesus with the real god. 7 years later.


But remember God and the Antichrist are the same species .. Annunakii but one god one bad. Or one that is portrayed as evil .


The Antichrist is a man and he is God/Quetzalcoatl/Annunaki/Thoth, A time traveler that escapes the planet before 2012 and goes back to the beginning and teaches man about their fate and leaves clues for his return(birth) in the future so that he can do it all over again.



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I think your completely wrong on that. Its lucifer, he dont die!... hes the antichrist. for petes sake.


thoth and all the rest are Giants. offspring of the fallen ones.. semi demi gods.


I think that jesus left the planet with his father...to make the city where all suppose to live at...along with god.


thats after the 7 years of the antichrist comming..


not saying that any of them characters left this planet...they prob all did.


But the bible says no one will no the time of the return of the savor. only the return of the beast.

So ..all these talltale signs are actually for the return of the beast.

dec 21, 2012 is return of the giants.. then soon after..lucifer IMO


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And all this time I thought Aleister Crowley was the beast!!

LoL but seriously folks, the Revelation is a fractal disguised as an event. It doesn't happen once. Its always happening. From before it was written to now, it has been repeating is a million variations all over the planet. Its also a guide for revolution to those whom know hebrew lore or at least Quabalist imagery.

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I think you are confusing mythos here?
Kukulkan is a feathered serpent like Quetzalcoatl or Gukumatz.
He's a white dude?? Really? Wasn't there some sort of Aztecan codex discrepancy that was similar to this concept? Like the Aztecs got massacred worse because of this white god?
I guess I can see the Sumerian link but don't understand the "Real Large WHite caucasian" part though I know I've hear that before in another mythos...

But according to Freidel, Mayans of the 16th century personify Kukulkan, but described traditionally; however 9th century Chichen Itzans depict him as a dream serpant entwined around nobles fingers. To me it sounds like there may be a historical perversion of the depiction over time. And perhaps believing that Kukulkan is a fat white dude has something to do with associating him with rulers in later periods. No offense but it seems ethnocentric to say the least; but I do believe they could *see* other lands with their plants, so it is entirely possible.

But honestly if I had to peg Kukulkan I'd go with Japanese interpretation. Quetzalcoatl is wind and a sort of dark force, bird and serpent: lightning. (ty ffviii)
To this day it couldn't be more true how all our leaders our bound with Kukulkan 'round their fingers. Kukulkan in their homes, around their lives in every aspect.

It is fascinating that in a sort of hebrew-christian talk we're not talking about their god system at all. Seems like anyone can make the revelation mean whatever they want it to. This is further proof of the story's ability to mold itself to anything as a fractal allegory. Though, I can see how all these arguments work if their just stretched thin enough.


So after lots of thought I want to place Kukulkan with the holy spirit, Aleph. Maybe Amoun. Nuith. There are so many hybrids its hard to be sure.

The creation story of Amun-ra and the story of Quetzal-coatl are quite similar.
I wonder if they happened in similar times. Each one is actually 2 gods synthesized. Lightning is two base elements, a sort of firey-wind. One a socio-political combination because of egyptian war. Another a shamnistic representation of spirit animals because of a mayan war. (each at times when the civilizations could contact each other by shamanistic means, intentional or subconscious.

just a theory... if kukulkan is a real metaphor perhaps electricity or the inet are appropriate. Perhaps because of all the work we've done Kukulkan will walk right out of the computer and back into our world personified by the collective desires of humanity. maybe Artificial intelligence is the sign...

As for religious figures of mythic proportions... the gods will make their presence felt I have a feeling; even if many will misinterpret their forms as environmental disaster or an "end" or earth... time is merely ending. The reason to count using numbers is ending. The reason to speak with words and letters is ending.
Surely if the gods do not come back we shall evoke them in ourselves, even if by accident!


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lmao ...Im confusing mythos? .


As I said..the mayan god was kukulkan he was a fair skinned... extremely tall white haired dude.


He looks just like a sumer pictos of the gods Annunakii and the few pictos of kukulkan looks just like the sumers. yes of course there is some of him portraided as you said... but his first description. is white blue eyes. white hair. and like three times taller or more then the mayans themself... ya know he wasnt mayan! by skin eye color..where he said he is from and so forth


same time period. same type god. "came from sky"

and as i said. dec 21, 2012 was the date he gave on his return. and yes...they got the spanish conquistadors confused as their own god.


And all anicent cultures point to the sky as where their creator is from.

My conclusion on the annunakii being giants are as follows.

1 the bible tells of the fallen angels and angels look identical too humans...but made of spirit.

2 the bible tells of the fallens ones mated with humans and created offsping that where giants.

3 the giants learned from the fallen ones.. and the giants are there after the deluge.

4 i dont see how someone or something as described as giants having sex with a small female...the thing wont just work! "sexual contact"


so i think itis safe to say ..the annunakii are offspring. much older then us...wiser then us. but not our creators.

imo .. and many others too.

aztecs and mayans are one of the same.. diffrent time but said the same gods came from the sky.


as all ancient cultures ... a god who came from the sky...was tall and not like them.


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prove it.
i want links.
if you're right a lot of online resources need to be changed.

Oldest descriptions I can find are ethereal. Seems more like a shape-shifter then a white dude.


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prove it.
i want links.
if you're right a lot of online resources need to be changed.

Oldest descriptions I can find are ethereal. Seems more like a shape-shifter then a white dude.


Perhaps he is both, a shapshifting white dude!



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Why couldn't the ancient aliens be us who traveled in time to warn ourselves about how to travel in time?



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The giants you are speaking of, do you mean the Nephilims?


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WOW :-o :-o :-o .........

Well fortunately BOBINH2OTOWN has said that what he has posted here is his "opinion" .......

INHO BOBINH2OTOWN you have taken the astrotheological biblical myths and interpreted them quite literally which is the wrong thing to do ....... one cannot take a myth and interpret it literally ........ weel you can but then you not going to get the intended message from it as it would appear has happened here.

As IllumnatusRex has mentioned here that all the predictions and prophecies made in the biblical times were made with the conviction that these predictions/prophecies were to happen within the lifetime of the predictee/prophet or within the lifetime of the people he was conveying the prediction/prophecy to. Why else would the predictee/prophet tell the audience of these happenings if they were not to be relevant to their lifetime ?

In the same way "the antichrist" referred to in the new testament was not somebody that was going to appear some 2000 years later but was a term used to refer to Emporor Nero who persecuted the then christians ........ again why would someone tell an audience of something that was going to happen long after their death, ie why would he spend time convincing them of something not relevant to them and their lifetime ?????

7 is also a highly significant number in the world of esotorica, mysticism and occult and if mythically interpretted as intended it will be seen that the number 7 represents enlightenment and it is in this context that the number 7 was used, NOT to denote days ...... the same way the term days was not to denote 24hr periods in the creation myth.

Here 7 is used to show that until "spiritual consciousness (christ)" is attained (represented by the number 7) "spiritual unconsciousness" will rule.

BOBINH2OTOWN, I say again: do not read myths literally as the writers never intended these myths to be interpreted literally, hence the myriad of conflicting literal interpretations of biblical script. The meanings contained in these myths impart different messages as we evolve spiritually (become enlightened) and this was their origional intention ....... should they be interpreted literally they mainatin the same incorrect message and do not serve the purpose for which they were intended.

BOBINH2OTOWN, here is a "description of what a myth is and the purpose it serves: (my apologies to those that have seen it before as I have posted it elsewhere)

The great things about myths is that they are always pregnant with more meaning. They are a focus for contemplation through which initiates can continually deepen understanding. They are also a mnenmonic, helping initiates to remember what they have learned and ensuring that the teachings survive. As long as the myths are told, the teachings remain, hidden for those "with the eyes to see" and "ears to hear".

Myths also do something which philosophy rarely does – they engage the heart. They put abstract thoughts into the form of a particular story, and it is particulars that stir the emotions. If we are told that there are thousands that are starving to death right now, we may start thinking about a solution. But if we are shown one particular starving child, we will be moved with compassion. Likewise, myths have the power to fill us with feeling just as the Jesus myth has done for millions over the centuries.

By their very nature, myths are open to many interpretations. Indeed, they are intended to be continually reinterpreted in the light of our expanding awareness.



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Ok for one yes I do believe the beast has risen as also that the seals explained in revelation are being broken open upon the earth as it is. There is really nothing that can be done besides get closer to God a prepare for his return. Which none of us here will be able to predict.

As said when does return " every knee shall bend, every tongue will confess." And he isn't going to be some white dude either. Refer to revelations if you do believe and hopefully you will be open minded as to what is going on in world right now to the documents of the books of the bible. Not a preacher here just concerned as to what I see on a daily basis in the world around me and it isn't good. It confounds me how so many people are dubious of the signs right in front of our faces. I wish people would just wake up. An see an believe.

Thanks for reading this. Hopefully it does open some minds.


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Thanks for reading this. Hopefully it does open some minds.[/i]


Thank you baberham and with all due respect: "I rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by faith".

I say this because predictions and prophecies made 2000 years ago were not to be relevant to now, but to the times and events at the time.



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I understand a little something about the mechanics of prophecy.
First thing to always remember: The people to write any prophecies for any generation are just human and capable of error.
Second: Prophecies are always open to interpretation, because of this there will always be a group of folks behaving irrationally.
Lastly: Get a Farmer's Almanac and educate yourself about the nature or Nature. It has a cycle that repeats itself and early man made big deal about the end of a cycle in fact they had festivals in which they prepared themselves for the End Of The Age. Yet somehow we're still here, and do you know why?
Man will always forget his own history and repeat it.



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