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 Post subject: HOW ANTIBIOTICS TREAT ARTHRITIS ...Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
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How many of you have experienced a lessening of arthritic symptoms when on certain antibiotics...

It appears that some arthritis is fungal...




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Exciting new research from the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands shows how antibiotics treat arthritis.

Your intestines are loaded with good bacteria that help break down food and prevent disease. They also contain bad bacteria that cause disease. Two antibiotics, vancomycin and metronidazole, help kill bad bacteria, without also killing most good bacteria. Researchers gave vancomycin to rats that develop arthritis. The antibiotic blocked the arthritis and also caused a huge increase in the good bacteria called E. Coli, that lives normally in the healthy intestine. The greater the increase in E coli, the more likely the rat was to be cured of its arthritis. Tobramycin and colistin are two antibiotics that specifically kill the good E. Coli that lives in healthy intestines.



Here's some more on this... TREATMENT OF INFLAMMATORY RHEUMATIC DISEASE WITH LOW DOSE ANTIBIOTIC THERAPY:RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS, SCLERODERMA, LUPUS, POLYMYOSITIS, DERMATOMYOSITIS, PSORIATIC ARTHRITIS, ANKYLOSING SPONDYLITIS, REITER'S SYNDROME AND JUVENILE RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS


I have found that painting a couple of inches of Lugols solution onto the skin works for sudden inflammations.. Doctors advice is needed here... as some may be allergic to Iodine...
I wouldn't ingest it.... though some suggest it... painting some on a small patch of the skin is more controllable as you can see if you need it or not by how quickly the dye fades.. If it is still there the next day or a couple of days later... your body probably doesn't need it... or it has had enough... too much can be dangerous...


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[url=http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/1999-03/921882503.Me.r.html]In 1955, the research unit reported that mycoplasmas, unlike bacteria and
viruses could live in tissue cell cultures without destroying the tissue
cells.
To further support mycoplasmas as a causative agent/antigen, in 1964 a
high incidence of mycoplasma antibodies in the blood of rheumatoid
arthritis patients and lupus patients was found, indicating current or
previous infection.
Also recognized was a 4:1 higher incidence of
mycoplasma antibodies in females suggesting a correlation with the higher
incidences of rheumatoid arthritis in females.
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It seems that more and more diseases are linked to the presence of bacteria.. fungi .. flukes...

like th old ulcer causing bug... Helicobacter pylori


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:? 8) This is new.... H. Pylori infections can also lead to some forms of arthritis (calcification, spurs), iron-deficiency anemia,. and Vitamin B12 deficiency that may develop



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"Mastic" is another remedy that has made the news. It is derived from a tree resin (Pistacia lentiscus)
that has been used as a food ingredient in the Mediterranean region for thousands of years, and which
is now dried and sold in capsules. Using 1-2g a day, there are reports of H. Pylori symptoms clearing
in 90% of patients, and stool samples being H. Pylori-free in 80% of patients after only two weeks.
In vitro studies have shown Mastic Gum to be effective against at least seven strains of Helicobacter
Pylori, and an increasing number of human trials show similar results, backed by urea breath tests
coming back negative.


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Location: somewhere in the liberal northeastern US, sadly.
please note that vancomycin causes severe damage to the respiratory system. this makes a person much more susceptible to respiratory illness, and it will be more severe, and longer lasting than would be normal. this is 1st hand experience, having known more than a few (and not all of them elderly) get cured from MRSA (or whatever the vancomycin is being used for), to then die from pneumonia 6 months later, usually after battling a viral illness for several months.

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please note that vancomycin causes severe damage to the respiratory system. this makes a person much more susceptible to respiratory illness, and it will be more severe, and longer lasting than would be normal. this is 1st hand experience, having known more than a few (and not all of them elderly) get cured from MRSA (or whatever the vancomycin is being used for), to then die from pneumonia 6 months later, usually after battling a viral illness for several months.


Excellent response Mini Fang. Which is why we as members of BoT should refrain from offering medical advice.



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I was simply offering information from personal experience.. I was close to suddenly being wheel chair bound with arthritis... I went thru innumerable tests and that is all that the specialists came up with....

after some months a forum member who also suffers similar symptoms found that when she was suffering a bout of tonsilitis.. the doctors prescribed penicillin dose magically relieved her symptoms,,

Coincidently I too later caught a throat infection and was prescribed some form of Augmentin forte... and miraculously the pain..and discomfort was reduced and mobility increased by at least 70% the very next day... and continued to improve!!!


So I really do think it is worth exploring further..


Another thing I have noticed is that every time I eat yogurt...I get recurring arthritic attacks... the ones where the joints hurt.. the bones of the joints grow and My self discovered cure for this is to paint some iodine on a small patch of skin... and they pain and swelling stops within a few hours....
Note the basic formulas of bacteria probiotics put in yogurts are unregulated... look it up....

So maybe they simply don't agree with me.. or they feed some latent arthritic spores that haven't quite disappeared..







8) :? I am simply encouraged others to explore further.. do not just accept diagnosis...

Other doctors have explored the antibiotic arthritic link already.. it is out there to explore... so too the connections with iodine and arthritis..if you consider that many types of arthritis are actually fungal or viral...




[url=http://arthritis.about.com/od/infectious/a/warning_signs.htm]What Is Infectious Arthritis?

Infectious arthritis is caused by a germ that travels through the body to a joint. The germ can be a bacterium, virus, or fungus. The germ can enter the body though the skin, nose, throat, ears, or through an open wound. Most often, infectious arthritis develops after an already existing infection travels through the body to a joint.[/url]


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[url=http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/05/26/rheumatoid-arthritis-part-three.aspx]Additionally, they continue to mostly ignore Dr. Brown's work on the use of antibiotics to treat the mycoplasma infection that is believed to be a major factor in this illness. This is in spite of the fact that it has been "proven" scientifically with double-blind, placebo controlled, randomized trials in some of the largest and most prestigious medical centers in the world. The cost of the trial was over ten million dollars (funded by the US Congress) and the results were also published in the most prestigious journals.

Yet most rheumatologists continue to ignore the results.[/url]


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