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crystalsage
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Post subject: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:46 pm |
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I am beginning to suspect that in some dreams are real .
How many people have had dreams that have felt real? Have had physical reminders of dreams like dreaming that you had an operation, and then woken up with the marks or pain exactly where the operation was? Or have had an illness, injury.. dreamed that you were treated for it and found that you were healed the next day?
Or that you were in some sort of altercation.. dreamed you were fighting a battle or were in an accident and you wake up with nagging painful reminders the next day?
Or that you dream of an event..or of people interacting with you on some level, that seems to have seemed to play out in this reality , maybe not in the same way, but the outcome is similar?
Or that you interact with a complete stranger in a dream, build a relationship of sorts with them and then maybe the next day.. or even years later you meet the same person and you feel an immediate bond with them, as if you have known them for quite a while. When you finally get to know them you can almost fill in their story... there is a sense of deja vu when their story unfolds. Or discuss some really amazing random synchronistic events, how chance played in their lives, and you have vague memories of being part of this?
Maybe you recollect parts of your dream of how you helped facilitate these events.
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katsmeow
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:21 am |
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Dreams are places we engage ourselves for further study. Yes, they are real. IMHO dreams are as real as it gets. Most times in dreams we project outward and we do not realize what the dream means.
It is very rare, from a dream or otherwise, we look inward for the source.
_________________ "Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself."
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katsmeow
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:26 am |
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Gigasis, yes I agree. Dreams are tricksterish and I must say, the creator incarnate. I am humbled by my stupidity all the time.
There is ego involved in most things we face. Dream world is a toughy. Where is what I hold sacred found and who holds the key?
Ego is the equivalent of devil in some planes and it surely screws with "truth". Most times I really wonder if any one wants the truth or if this kinda asking is mental masturbation.
Crystal....I apologize....I just am over it.
_________________ "Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself."
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Gigasis
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:24 pm |
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Nicly put Pluralone poeples dreams are basically a gate way and depending on the person is how it is affected.
Not only that but some dreams come true. If you beilieve in a dream enough it will take form after awhile it has happened to me on several occasions.
I know that sounded a little corny  but on the serious side its true. 
_________________ I am the one that thrives at night i am the one that causes great fright, I am in a great plight because all of my prey take flight.
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katsmeow
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:52 am |
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I tell ya...the amount of abuse I heap on myself. lol You have no idea. Dreams are gateways. If the gateway is some red carpet to your thought patterns you have become aware of. Honest to pete, there is more. You must know that anything you care to know about...there is more.
The creator is mighty infinite. The boundaries are non-existant.
_________________ "Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself."
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kelsoatsea
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:43 pm |
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AH! You see, this is somewhat how I explain deja vu. IMHO, I feel deja vu is like a late dream recall that is triggered by real life. I've had instances of deja vu where I am certain I dreamt my very reality before I was even there.It's much bigger than a dream at times! There is also another variation of it that I read about in an article on NYTonline. The article discussed 'Deja Vecu'. Deja Vecu is different from deja vu in a sense that you can't tell the dream from reality. I've oddly enough experianced this as well and found it so odd I had to seek answers, thanks to NYT. I dreamt I was crying my eyes out during the very nap I was taking. My best friend was asleep next to me in wake life and in the dream state, he never stirred. The pillow was dry and once i realized I hadn't cried at all I was so startled by how real it had felt that the tears started flowing. haha
I'll try to hunt down the link to the articule to share with you guys.
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crystalsage
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:30 pm |
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I read that you can use dreams for therapy... in that you can rework dreams.. nightmares... via semi hypnotic visualizations.
Maybe we all dream on several levels at once.....maybe evne have several dreams at once... and it is simply a matter of tuning into them... Note how we have different levels of sleep.. and each level we may have different dreamscapes, perhaps dealing with different issues.
How sometimes the last thing we do, read or see may be reworked in a dream sometimes highlighting some parallels in our lives...
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crystalsage
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:24 pm |
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Then I recall the number of times I have dreamt of people I haven't met in a while and then suddenly run into them the next day.... or dream of people who I felt connected to when I was quite young who just appear in the dream with messages... or randomly interact in your dreams.
Other incidences in day to day life when rather synchronistic happenings help steer you into a certain direction, inexplicably change your behaviour and somehow it later works out that you are glad that you did.. you get a sense that it was some gut instinct that made you act in that way... When you reflect on these events...your mind goes hazy , scattered and suddenly you get mental images of certain people and some semi forgotten memories that you know haven't happened but remind you of snippets of certain dreams...
Did these subconscious snippets of half remembered dreams affect your choices?... did these memories of possible events register enough to be understood as synchronistic events that guided you in these incidences?
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crystalsage
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:40 pm |
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Funny... in the last couple of weeks I had dreamt of an old school friend who I hadn't seen for over a decade... I could hardly remember the dreams.. but wondered how she was... thought maybe I should try and find her number to catch up..
Yesterday I ran into her.. she had just moved into the area and was doing some promotions work ... She recognized me and called out to me.. before I saw her...
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crystalsage
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:52 pm |
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Not quite on topic... but I have a feeling that after after, let's say, your mid 20's, sleep ages you... Just think... you do most of your growing when you sleep... as you get older.. your skin etc.. keeps growing.. mainly while you sleep... I think the first bit of sleep does the basic maintenance... and mental rebalancing... then anything in the excess.. the body just plays around.. readjusting.... the squashing of your face.. the light stretching of your skin.. via your pillow, or the pressure of your body stretching the skin.. when you twist and turn in your bed... I have had decades with little sleep.. anything between 2 to 5 hours on average a night.. and yet many think me anything up to 20 years younger than my actual age.. my spouse who sleeps over 12 hours a day.. looks/seems much older than his years....  Just thought here... I put the idea to my daughter today.. and she thought there might be something to it.. and a few of the people she knows that have very little sleep seem to be much more youthfull in attitude and looks... Has anyone else found this to be the case too?
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:40 am |
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Quite an interesting theory, Crystal. I sleep little at night. If I sleep 5 hours, that is a long time for me. Unless I am unusually tired, I usually turn in about 11:00, 11:30pm and am up from 3:00 to 4:30am. And I am 70years old. Most people guess my age at about 50 plus. I play a game with people. I call it "Guess my age". No one has gotten it right yet.
_________________ Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning how to dance in the rain.
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crystalsage
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:34 am |
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BubbaEarlIII wrote: Quite an interesting theory, Crystal. I sleep little at night. If I sleep 5 hours, that is a long time for me. Unless I am unusually tired, I usually turn in about 11:00, 11:30pm and am up from 3:00 to 4:30am. And I am 70years old. Most people guess my age at about 50 plus. I play a game with people. I call it "Guess my age". No one has gotten it right yet. Yep  .. We must be on to something!!! Do you find that it is easy to access dreamworlds or have psychic visions.. or able to access answers to questions you might have when you put yourself into the 'Zen mode' ? By this I mean actively 'seek'.. Question consciously.. then relax.. shut your eyes .. and see what happens? It works with me..' After a while.. you can activate another level of consciousness.. like being in two realities at once.. put your question there and then.. seek the answer... ( sort of like a 'day dream' scenario)... It practically always works for finding the right car park... the one space available on a busy day!!!! 
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:06 pm |
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Crystal: Quote: Do you find that it is easy to access dreamworlds or have psychic visions.. or able to access answers to questions you might have when you put yourself into the 'Zen mode' ?
By this I mean actively 'seek'.. Question consciously.. then relax.. shut your eyes .. and see what happens?
It works with me..' After a while.. you can activate another level of consciousness.. like being in two realities at once.. put your question there and then.. seek the answer... ( sort of like a 'day dream' scenario)...
It practically always works for finding the right car park... the one space available on a busy day!!!! None of the above. I don't need to. I am perfectly satisfied living in Bubba's World.
_________________ Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning how to dance in the rain.
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crystalsage
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:46 am |
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BubbaEarlIII wrote: None of the above. I don't need to. I am perfectly satisfied living in Bubba's World.
Well said...  ... but the convenience of finding that elusive car space?
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BubbaEarlIII
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:00 am |
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I never have problems finding a car space. I am lucky in that aspect. In fact I am lucky in a lot of aspects. Been driving for 58 years. Never had an accident.
I do think your theory has validity. I must check into it further. It seems to something well worth researching.
_________________ Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning how to dance in the rain.
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crystalsage
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Post subject: Re: Could synchronicities be manipulated in dream worlds? Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:15 pm |
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BubbaEarlIII wrote: I never have problems finding a car space. I am lucky in that aspect. In fact I am lucky in a lot of aspects. Been driving for 58 years. Never had an accident.
I do think your theory has validity. I must check into it further. It seems to something well worth researching.  Especially if it slows down aging... We know that Melatonin gets activated whilst sleeping.. and that is meant to boost your immune system etc..  ... But I am leaning more towards mitochonrial activity..I have read how there is increased mitochondrial activity when fasting... that high mitochondrial levels are found in those with greater psychic ability... and is seems that research here hints at increased mitochondria activity linked with sleep deprivation.. .... and this is interesting.. Quote: Prolonged sleep deprivation elicits a significant elevation of the plasma level of free tryptophan which appears to be involved in increased excretion of 5-HIAA during this state through enhanced 5-HT synthesis.. (0.63 seconds) and... Quote: The variations of total and free tryptophan levels in samples of maternal and umbilical blood obtained on the occasion of elective cesarean .. .. then the old vitamin B6
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