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This is interesting...

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/7216/56/

A NASA orbiter is due to drop a 2 ton kinetic bomb, on the moon, on Oct. 9th of this year.

Now... weren't we warned to never return to the moon? The Japanese have crashed their 'what's it' on the moon and now the US plans this.

Could this be what makes all the sh :shush: hit the fan? If there is a base on the dark side of the moon, this will not set well with them, you'd think. Bare with me on this... :-? would the ones in control on this planet be the enemy of these on the moon? And are they using us to get to them? That would be pretty dumb because we haven't the technology to fight them. Maybe?

If so, who's the good guy? IMHO it's the ones on the moon. If it's so, because the ones here are not good as we can see by what's happening all over. (I do believe there is an ET presence participating in what's going on here)

Not only all that, but the law has been put in motion that NO ONE is to do anything like this in space or on another planet! But here they are, going to do it... :?

Whatever your thoughts, bombing the moon with even a non nuke bomb, is not right, knowing what we know already.

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WOW Kira .. thanks for this ... I have a number of thoughts on this , not all printable.
the most obvious one.... WHY ?
They are supposed to be doing it to look for water, and the expected hole could provide a base for a living-in centre..... so.?? so ... what for ??

My personal feelings are one of dismay at the lack of respect for other celestial bodies.We have no right to do this.I have always had an affinity with the moon so I may be overreacting but I am still suspicious of the USA governments intentions or whoever funded it .

If inhabitants of other planets take a liking to the Moon's or mercury's or Mother Earth's natural resources we would soon complain.! so what make us any different.What gives us the right to disrupt her?

We truly act as through we are the centre of the universe.... we are so full of our importance thinking we know enough to trust this wouldnt harm the Moon or us.
And if it harm none?..... well it most certainly will harm the Moon itself , disturb her glory.Wouldnt it possibly affect her distribution of weight and so her orbit and so our tides etc and so on and so forth ??

IMHO NASA have no right whatsoever to bomb anything . I think there is more to it . But if there isnt at the very least shouldnt we be doing other things rather than this? Like looking into why we get gluts of air accidents or something ? Oh well...please wish it to be safe for all concerned including US.

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lets BOMB the MOON :-o



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I agree newbs, why? It would cost unimagined amounts of money to be able to build and live on the moon. With the world economy as it is atm this shouldn't even be thought, let alone happening. It's beyond comprehension as to why. Even if there was water anyone can plainly see nothing grows there.

But we all know how they love to spend money they don't have. In the '60's they built a pyramid bunker to the tune of 6B+ only to be used for 3 days, now it just sits there.

http://atlasobscura.com/places/pyramid-north-dakota

I just can't believe these guys are so stupid and in control. :(

This will be plaguing my every thought until it happens. I just hope something will stop it before it happens. I don't know if it could change the orbit of the moon, it's been hit by my larger rocks, but still, they are ignoring the UN Outer Space Treaty.



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If the true intent of the LCROSS mission moon bombing is a hostile act by NASA against known extraterrestrial civilizations and settlements on the moon, then NASA and by extension the U.S. government are guilty of aggressive war which is the most serious of war crimes under the U.N. Charter and the Geneva Conventions, to which the U.S. is subject. The U.N. Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S. has ratified, requires that “ The moon and other celestial bodies shall be used by all States Parties to the Treaty exclusively for peaceful purposes. The establishment of military bases, installations and fortifications, the testing of any type of weapons and the conduct of military manoeuvres on celestial bodies shall be forbidden.â€



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First of all, where the heck have I been? There's an extraterrestrial base on the dark side of the moon as witnessed by astronauts? That's the first thing that dropped my jaw. Next, why the hell would anyone bomb the moon? What are these morons thinking about? I also heard this over the weekend on an NPR game show about things in the media, so it seems to be a brewing story, at any rate. But I mean, come on. Bomb the moon? WHAT?????!!!

It's a familiar feeling - absolutely straight-jacketed in the face of gigantic stupidity, big swinging-dickedness, and bald faced arrogance. Not unlike the past eight years.

I am boiling mad!! :darkevil:


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... Seriously? I had heard about the moon base which was taken by an alien strike team a few decades ago, but this is just going too far. All these lies like "we're bombing the moon to look for water", what a giant crock of sh*t! I really hope these fools know what they're doing.........


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Just had a thought. Maybe it's a test to see whether we have the ability to bomb a meteorite skimming too close to Earth? You know how these guys love their tests. :?


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There are so many ways this can go wrong. Not good!



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I am not surprised,though I am curious as to what will occur upon detonation.No O2,a lack of atmosphere,the gravity gradient.Are we going to be the next ringed planet?The Van Allen and the Lunar dust belt will pretty much make it impossible to leave or return.That's just what we will have in space. I can't image what affect it might have here on 3rd Rock.

Sometimes I'm embarassed to be called human.Twit's.

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Ok, lets get some stuff sorted out from the sensationalist writeup in that first link.

First, there's no detonation. It's a kinetic energy impact, just like a bullet hitting dirt. Not a bomb, just an artificial meteor.

Anyone who thinks impacts are something unusual on the moon, please have a look at
this BoT gallery pic.

Second, the impactor is not going to make a five mile wide crater, it's going to impact in a (roughly) five mile wide crater that is always shadowed and may harbor water ice. For a perspective on this, try the following link.

Third, the impressive sounding "plume may be visible from earth" is nothing new either. Such plumes are regularly observed on the moon, and used to cause lots of speculation about possible volcanic outgassing.

Sorry, but I read that article as slanted, garbled, contrafactual political rhetoric intended to get just the reactions it's garnering in this thread.



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That reassure's me.No boom boom.

There is a Santa Claus.Hope they understand and don't send one back.

There is a proving tact that require's a bit more thought.

Throwing rock's at glass house's.

Daddio. :idea:



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Well, for a bit more perspective, the US lunar lander ascent stage was impacted on the moon way back when from orbital height, and it weighed slightly more (4537 kg) than the booster that is going to be used on this prospecting mission. I don't recall anything coming unglued as a result, or any foaming at the mandibles ETs descending on us.

Santa appears to have his presence on the dark side, and this thing isn't going to happen there, but in the permanently shadowed part of a crater on the earth facing sunlit side of the moon.



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bomb bomb bomb the moon
gently out in orbit
merrily merrily merrily
just like that wacky wabbit

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as a side note there will be no "boom" as the moon has no atmosphere to speak of.
marvin the martian wrote:
wheres the kaboom? theres supposed to be a moon shattering kaboom



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Well, I didn't say anything about nuking the moon, just that they shouldn't be bombing it. Just cause it's been hit by other objects, doesn't mean we should do the same. That's all.

Well, not really. :P If they do go ahead with it, I'd expect some kind of retaliation. Santa will not approve.


That's all. :X



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If you want to see a very, very interesting video on the moon, this is it.

Moon Rising


Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ3wh2cjekE

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38kusdWb9es

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuAHHTKfh4I

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJQ8MUGB0a0

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC9UmCxYmlg

Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTWsoBvMQwo

Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMMhu16y6c

Part 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIL6Zwq_tY

Part 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3L_53uc4g

Of course there will be those that say it's bs, but make up your own mind. ;)



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its all swamp gas and weather balloons. :P



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Yep..that is messed up..and..very stupid.

I think we are getting more ignorant as we tick along as of late.

They seem to be able to do whatever they want...and..we ALL just sit..

I know my butt is sore from sitting..and I am getting very restless...This joke of a world is so caught up in false worlds that have been created..that they cannot see what the real one has taking place in it. :-?



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If you want to see a very, very interesting video on the moon, this is it. Moon Rising Of course there will be those that say it's bs, but make up your own mind.;)


Thanks K...I viewed all parts and all I can say is (((((WOW))))) as I thought I knew all there was to know. Thanks for wakening me up in regards to certain aspects I overlooked....And it ain't BS...trust me people!


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:lol: We'll never know all there is to know Mensa. ;)

I agree with you Entity. I've about had it with the whole thing. It's made life almost unbearable. And there's no where, except here, to even talk about it. :( For me anyway.

Mini!? There's no swamps on the moon! :spank: Silly. :D



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:lol: We'll never know all there is to know Mensa. ;)

I agree with you Entity. I've about had it with the whole thing. It's made life almost unbearable. And there's no where, except here, to even talk about it. :( For me anyway.

Mini!? There's no swamps on the moon! :spank: Silly. :D



they say there aint no swamps on mars, but there is swamp gas there (methane).



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I may have said it before but I'll say it again. We have some very exceptional people here and if we could all pull together, we could research, gather, and present our finding, which I believe would be irrefutable evidence of the truth. I am also sure once word gets out, those in the know would contact and provide us with necessary information, of course anonymously.


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I may have said it before but I'll say it again. We have some very exceptional people here and if we could all pull together, we could research, gather, and present our finding, which I believe would be irrefutable evidence of the truth.



I have felt that way since I found BoT..Most of the truth to which we are lied to about..is on the net already...and many know pieces...together...it would indeed be a full..mind blowing picture.

I think there are too many pieces left..to get to all we need to know
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I read a while ago.. something about bombing Jupiter... then I read about all the sudden atmospheric changes to Jupiter... :?


[url=http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html]On September 21, 2003 NASA deliberately directed its amazing, still-functioning Galileo spacecraft to make one final, 108,000 mph suicidal plunge into Jupiter’s vast atmosphere. Thus ended the incredibly successful eight-year unmanned NASA Galileo mission … which had returned against all odds an array of phenomenal new information on Jupiter and its “mini-solar system of moonsâ€


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Those moon rising videos were neat. I would not be surprised if there were other beings on the moon that our government is hiding. And I could see why they would hide it, not because of mass panic and fear but to hide the rewards from nations with dangerous leaders. Although if that was the case, that may not make sense since all their astronautical signs are the same like the video says, paying tribute to something. Would be interesting to hear more about this when such info can be found or shared. Who knows, perhaps in the near future on some of these folks death beds...


Why hide stuff anyway, aren't we as humans all supposed to be on the same side? Well at least when it comes to finding out about our neighbors. Maybe folks would treat each other better if we all understood the underlying roots of our true ancestry and why our races look different, have different distinct features, etc


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Ya know mensa, I agree, it seems that the intelligent will eventually find one another. :lol:



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Does anyone here honestly believe that any race with the technology to build a "Secret Base" on the Moon will be overtly bothered by our crash landing (not bombing) a small probe into a lunar crater?
Not as if they haven't been forewarned either, with this story doing the media rounds for the last 12-18 months.
A probe in a crater.
A storm in a tea-cup.
Anyone burnt any good books lately?



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Um, no..... have you?

Whether there's a moon base or not, what gives them the right to go crashing/bombing anything that is in space? Haven't they done enough damage down here!? It's pompous, arrogance to say it's in the name of science to do any of this. Total disregard of any life that may be out there.

Not to even mention the money it's taking from a completely broke country.



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This mission is actually a money saver. The hunt is on to find ice on the moon because it's vital to establishing any sort of moon base. Pretty much the whole technologically capable world is looking, so it's not like the US is on it's own in this.

Rather than spending mega bucks to develop and soft land some sort of prospecting probe that could drill for ice, this just lets a piece of space junk fall into a promising crater and kick up a cloud of ejecta that can be examined by relatively inexpensive instruments on the probe that will be following the booster stage down.

Major dollar savings over the alternative way of looking below the surface for ice.



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Ice has already been found on the moon.

NASA finds ice on the moon and on Mars



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From that link:

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"When we say 'water on the moon,' we are not talking about lakes, oceans or even puddles. Water on the moon means molecules of water and hydroxyl (hydrogen and oxygen) that interact with molecules of rock and dust specifically in the top millimeters of the moon's surface," Carle Pieters of Brown University in Rhode Island said in a statement.
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"This water on the moon appears to be bound up with minerals such that it is stable in the airless and low-gravity environment of the moon," Marc Norman of Australian National University in Canberra said in a statement. "So we won't be able to pump it like groundwater, but will have to collect fairly large volumes of lunar soil, then extract and store the water for use."


This mission was about looking below the surface, hopefully for cometary water ice rather than bound hydroxyls. That's why they went to the pole to hit a crater with a permanent shadow: never heated by solar flux, better chance of greater abundance of more easily extracted forms.

Cheap, fast way to mine without manned missions or pricey dedicated prospecting rovers.



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Fair enough. Any idea when the moon became NASA's private property? :armsfold:



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