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Phoenix
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Post subject: Planet-X/Wormwood Update July 2009! Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:19 pm |
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Planet X/Wormwood is Coming In!
By Phoenix
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Quote: Revelations 8 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. I believe Planet X/Wormwood is coming up fast! There are signs all around us that are being misinterpreted but the US Govt is well aware of the situation.In a recent show on Coast to Coast with George Noory. Noory interviewed a researcher named Gilbert Eriksen. See show 6/29/2009 Return of Planet X/WormwoodGilbert said that Wormwood is coming in from the south and that it is a very heavy object that is generating intense gravity rings or what he calls nodes that have all kinds of debree orbiting around them. Fig 1. http://www.millenniumprophecy.com/science2.jpgThese nodes/rings extend outward in concentric circles for millions of miles. Gilbert further said that these rings are orbiting Wormwood vertically as compared to our horizontal path around the sun. Every Summer Solstice (June 21-July 13) and Winter Solstice (Dec 21-Jan 13) our planet passes through these concentric rings and have been doing so since the 1800s. Look for intense Quake and Volcanic activity during these solstice periods as well as the red-orange or brown clouds.Fig 2. http://www.millenniumprophecy.com/peri.jpgGilbert said that as Wormwood gets closer to the Sun, that each nodes/rings gravity get more intense than the last and have subsequent denser debree fields. In between the inner nodes or ringlets there are clouds and he said that the Earth will be passing through these fine red iron dust clouds and that this will be extremely evident in the skies in the next few years. In the fourth hour of the show a caller told Gilbert that he had spotted some red powder on the side of a mountain or hill where he lived. Gilbert told the caller to give him more information for him to research and post on his web site.Planet X was also called the Destroyer and the Biblical book of Jeremiah also speaks of this coming destruction: Quote: Jeremiah 25:32 and Jeremiah 48:8
"Disasters will soon spread from nation to nation. They will come like a "POWERFUL STORM" to all the faraway places on earth..."
"...The DESTROYER will come against every town, not one town will escape......The Lord said this will happen."
As Planet-X/Wormwood approaches, the fine red dust and the debree will be the first evidence of the approach.
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NOW THE EVIDENCE!!
So are clouds all over the world being filled with this fine red dust from Planet X ?
Take a look at these reports:
On June 5, 2009 the Daily Mail reported about The clouds with no name: Meteorologists campaign to classify unique 'Asperatus' clouds seen across the world
On June 30, 2009 take a look at a video of some of these Mamatis clouds which turned the NYC sky orange-red.
We might also remember that "INTENSE RED RAIN that was seen in India 2001and the ORANGE SNOW that was recorded in Russia in 2007.
Note: There are also peripheral happenings such as massive worldwide animal die-offs including honeybees, bats and other species which "could be" attributed to the fine red dust, but I will not be covering them in this Update.
So is there evidence of this node debree coming in which is exploding in the atmosphere ?
Absolutely! Just late last year 2008 and early this year 2009 (Winter Solstice time period) there were COUNTLESS WORLDWIDE reports of exploding meteors. And a few years ago there were COUNTLESS WORLDWIDE reports of Mysterious sonic booms heard all over the world (just google that one).
These booms and exploding fireballs are inconclusive in themselves but when tied together with the reports of red-orange clouds, red rain, orange snow, and the information about the Planet X and it's nodes/rings shows us a very clear picture that Planet-X/Wormwood is indeed coming in and causing havok on the Earth!
So are these incomings significant ?
I'll say... So significant that the US Govt recently silenced all data on Incoming Objects. Which may lead us to suspect why the US Govt decided all of a sudden to increase funding to its chemtrail operations. People definitely need to start asking more questions.
As Gilbert said on Coast: "As wormwood approaches, all these things will increase and become evident by late 2010."
That red rain, orange-red clouds, and orange snow are very real and we need to take samples and look for Iron as the tell tale sign of the massive incoming which will make a devastation that will literally fry the planet....
Mother Shipton's Pendragon and Nostradamus Great Comet is fast approaching and there will be NO WAY to debunk it in the next few years..
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:55 am |
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Thanks for posting that Phoenix,
I knew the show was on but missed it. I'll give it a listen once I have the time.
I'm starting to wonder if the non biodegradable coffins and mass grave pits are because of this event...everything else, N. Korea, Iran, the economy and such are being focused on as distractions...although each is a very real concern in their own right.
If the people are kept looking around or "over there" they won't be looking up...just a thought.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:58 am |
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i dont think this is an object that enters the solar system. if it were the orbits of the known planets would be disturbed to much, if this is the massive object people claim it to be.
however a brown dwarf that comes close to or enters the oort cloud would not disturb the planets but would toss a lot of debris into the inner solar system (comets asteroids etc.).
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Phoenix
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:43 pm |
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Numnutz,
Quote: If the people are kept looking around or "over there" they won't be looking up...just a thought.
BINGO!! That is exactly right! The Emergency is coming from "Up There" and it is the one thing the elites have absolutely NO CONTROL over.
While people are distracted, world Govts are storing "organic" seeds, making underground facilities for the Elite, buying up all the dry goods they can find to last them for "YEARS", and building telescopes in inhospitable places on earth so they can observe the incoming and know what time to bug-out and leave all the rest of us to fry and drown. All on taxpayer money.
Now you can understand why Govt & Military leaders worldwide are so willing to follow any agenda set forth by the elites because if they don't then they and their family will not be guaranteed a place in those underground shelters.
Nice bunch of people eh ?!
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mensa517
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:25 am |
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Here is a little more info coming from the Russians in regards to "Wormwood and "Nibiru". Note they are warning pilots to avoid a large area due to "geomagnetic storms" which they allege are the cause of filghts AF 447 and the most recent in which one child survived, "falling from the skies".
Here is an excerpt and the link to full story: HERE
[quote]The African continent is literally unstitching itself apart just like the sleeve of an old shirt, along the area known as the East African Rift, which traverses it beginning with the southern end of the Red Sea, going through Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Tanzania and Mozambique. The molten lava beneath the Earth's surface makes it thin by constantly pushing against it, and eventually breaks it and tears it apart.â€
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:35 am |
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Last year in December, 2008, i posted a story that a Giant Breach In The Earth's Magnetic Field would be causing a lot of havoc, with Geomagnetic Storms etc.
See link below:-
http://book-of-thoth.com/ftopict-19067.html
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Post subject: wormwood the falling star Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:44 pm |
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Wormwood, the falling star of Revelation.
I always felt a connection with wormwood and nibiru.
It is told that when nibiru enters the solar system, its path is the Asteroid Belt between mars and jupiter. The large planet's gravitational pull in a reverse rotation, can cause earthquakes. It causes the planets to woble, a comet to impact, and cause meteor showers from the Asteroid Belt.
Wormwood in the Bible Revelation 8. verse10+11 talks from after 7 seals were opened, 7 Angels one by one blow a trumpet.
This sounds like a devastating meteor shower, Asteroid impact, and devastating comet impact caused by the Planet of the crossing, causing fresh water rivers to be rotten. Revelation tells of these 7 trumpets each sounding, and a third of everything dieing.
First trumpet causing Hail and fire, third of everything on earth burns.
Second trumpet causing great mountain of fire hurled into the sea, and a third of the creatures of the sea with souls died.
The Star Wormwood in Revelation:
The 3rd Angel blew his Trumpet and a Great Star burning fell from heaven (space) and fell apon a third of the rivers and fountains of the waters. The name of the Star is called Wormwood, and a third of the waters turned into wormwood (a bitter herb bush), and many of the men died from the waters, because these have been made bitter.
Revelation says a third of the men are killed. That adds to over 2 billion people.
I have my own theory that the Exodus of Moses and the 10 plagues one that caused 3 days of darkness to happen was around 3,600 years ago. A posibility of nibiru causing this. Making a due date of the next planet of the crossing to happen in our lifetime. 2012?
Or- will it cause a Pole shift from the Galactic Alignment of 2012?
Dec. 21 in the Sign of ophuchus, the secret sign.
Prerarations of a new Ark can be true. Do we have the technology to stop impacts like the recent movies, will the Gods intervene, or will this world let it happen. There are stories of real underworld cities, I wont name what parts of the world to protect their existence if true. Im shure the government elites are doing their part in making survival bunkers.
Great topic Phoenix
2012 scary facts video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaXI9wS0W60
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Phoenix
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:38 am |
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Mensa517,
WOW!!
The last Alta run of the Web Bots also mentioned a "Gravitational Squeezing" that is playing havok with all life in the Solar System.
I had first speculated that might be from the coming alignment with the galactic center but that may not be totally accurate. Wormwood's Iron makeup however would account for the intense Gravity perturbing the planets!
Thanks for that info.
*Cheers*
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Phoenix
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:41 am |
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Anuatlantian,
I'm Forgetting about politics and other distractions and keeping my full attention only on this body and all the peripheral activity that it is causing!
*Cheers*
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mensa517
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:05 am |
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Phoenix wrote: Mensa517, WOW!!  The last Alta run of the Web Bots also mentioned a "Gravitational Squeezing" that is playing havok with all life in the Solar System. I had first speculated that might be from the coming alignment with the galactic center but that may not be totally accurate. Wormwood's Iron makeup however would account for the intense Gravity perturbing the planets! Thanks for that info. *Cheers*
You are wise and astute my friend. Apparently you, others and me are on the same page. Regrettably we will have to wait until the event takes place, as the information has been scrubbed clean from the mainstream news and those who believe as we do have been ostracized.
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Phoenix
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:27 pm |
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Mensa517 wrote: You are wise and astute my friend. Apparently you, others and me are on the same page. Regrettably we will have to wait until the event takes place, as the information has been scrubbed clean from the mainstream news and those who believe as we do have been ostracized.
Yep, on the same page.
Well if world Govts wants to keep this secret until the last minute so they can have more time to prepare then they are fools because society worldwide is going to explode with massive shock when the world finds out. I have speculated that perhaps they are working towards that very end for purposes of rapid eugenics de-population.
But you know what they say ? Payback is a bi@#$ and they will fail.
All I know is that elite politicians, bankers, and lawyers better be outta harms way when the truth about this finally breaks and the elite bankers can't hide it from the people any longer. Instead of the NWO they're going to experience the GLM(Global Lynch Mobs) and anyone even remotely associated with a Bank, a Law Firm, and the Govt will have thousands of people after them coming for some payback.... The Native American Hopi Dan Evahema warned about this. The elites and politicians are going to be hunted like dogs in every nation.
Society cannot stand on lies. Every nation that has tried it is now gone and no nation is immune to history.
Kudos Da'migos Mensa517!
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Kira
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:57 pm |
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I do think this is what's in store for us and the solar system, unfortunately. It's happened before. Could be what killed Mars at one time...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5dh8u ... 012_people
Not much into the religious part of it but the science part is undeniable. Govts. know, so does the Vatican. It's hard for amateur astronomers to see because it's coming from behind the sun.
We have a binary solar system. The brown dwarf comes around bringing it's planets with it. It's the only thing that explains why it's also affecting the other planets along with us. It's science fact. Manmade Global warming is bogus, but it's the only way they can bleed us dry before it happens.
The crop circles this year have been more fantastic than any year since they've been kept track of. Some taking more than one time/day to finish!
Not looking forward to this... 
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Post subject: Wormwood Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:04 am |
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I listened to most of the George Noory interview with Gilbert Eriksen and, while I found what he had to say entertaining, I'm sorry to say, his theory just doesn't hold water scientifically. Trust me, with all the amateur astronomers out there (and I'm one of them) some excited amateur would be announcing the discovery of this brown dwarf already if it were to exist and be at the location where Gilbert predicts it should be. But, silence is all we hear. And no government or government agency could possibly keep everyone quiet on a matter as potentially huge as this. We'd have seen photographs by now if this thing exists with that large of a mass (1/17th the mass of the sun). Consider that amateurs discover comets that are WAY out there upon approach to the sun and perhaps are merely 1-10 miles in diameter and they're able to photograph these. If we have a body such as a brown dwarf, which would entail a great amount of heat (thus highly visible in infrared), but would be at least as large as Jupiter, but quite possibly somewhat larger at the orbit of Neptune, we'd be beginning to see it with the naked eye and even more so with modest telescopes even now. So where is it? And I might add, the artistic rendition in Gilbert's book posted on-line showing the looming brown dwarf taking up a good portion of the sky is VERY misleading. Again, this is all fun for entertainment and speculation, but has no basis in truth. God says in the scripture that no man can know His timetable. I've seen time after time in my 53 trips around the sun all these people who state that they know what is going to happen and come up short. Gilbert is another one of these who has entertained us with his ideas and made some money on his book, but he is not rooted in truth, despite his knowldge and quotation of The Bible. Don't place too much stock in what he says. God continually confounds those who purport to be wise. I also do not believe in the hype about 2012.
And to Kira, who posted just before me, you and so many others don't seem to understand solar system mechanics. If this brown dwarf were still behind the sun from our vantage point and not visible because of that, then it cannot be coming from Right Ascension 18 hours (which Gilbert says is in the constellation Sagittarius), because the sun is just past the solstice now (in the constellation Cancer), leaving visibility for this brown dwarf wide open to all astronomers in the southern hemisphere and likely to those in the southern US below about 30-40 degrees N. latitude, which would easily enable them to see a closely approaching massive brown dwarf in the constellation Sagittarius RIGHT NOW. You can clearly see the teapot and milk dipper of Sagittarius looking due south about midnight during this time of the summer. Again, you all believe what you want to, but I'm telling you I do not believe this brown dwarf story is truth, based on my solid understanding of astronomy. I'm certain we'll be looking at 2012 one day in much the same way we did the year 2000 and all the doomsday predictions with regard to calamitous "Y2K" events. Not gonna happen.
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Kira
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:54 am |
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Quote: I'm certain we'll be looking at 2012 one day in much the same way we did the year 2000 and all the doomsday predictions with regard to calamitous "Y2K" events. Not gonna happen.
And I certainly hope you're right Truthseeker1. Welcome to BoT.
I've read so much on this certain subject. Of course you can't be positive what you're reading is all true.
Sagittarius is exactly where it's supposed to be. I'll have to find all my links because they've been lost in a sea of favorites  but this subject has had much coverage. You'll not find any of it in a news paper or news. Maybe some 'out there' articles, but it's spun like it's way out there...
We are part of a universe. It's not just this solar system. Solar systems collide all the time. Weather is changing, planets are changing. Something is making it all change and it's not us little specs of dust. There's so much I could say but don't have the time dang it!
I will be back, I feel this is closest to the truth in anything so far. There's so much more.
If I'm wrong, man I'll be damn glad! Cause this would be big.
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Post subject: Ok! Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:06 am |
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I have been on here for awhile for severe problems with dreams. And I have had some problems with one I have had for almost a whole month! Now I am in the hospital because a tumor, not the point here.
Anyways, I have had another dream! And it was similar to this wormwood/ Planet X. It was just a few days ago!
And it was something huge! I am a religious person have read the bible specially revelations.
But, this dream is significant and I believe its linked to my other dream too. If you would like to read the details of my dreams go to "What happened to me," recurring dreams. Here on BoT.
I am beginning to wonder if the reason these dreams aren't going away are because of this.
Phoenix I am so glad you have brought this subject up. It is something I think more people need to think about.
I will try to listen to the links you have here on the coast to coast. I get monitored on my time on the computer here in the hospital because they want me to rest. But, I have been successful tonight.
I am not a astrologer, but I have this feeling their is something between my dreams and this!! Why now I ask?
And I also wasn't aware of all the signs that have been occurring around the world!! I am amazed. Truely.
I am worried about what the government is hiding from us. I know they won't beable to hide for long!
Anyways, I hope you take a look at the similarities between these things happeneing and my dreams.
Thanks for the important information posted here,
Baberham
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:11 am |
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Dear Kira,
Thank you for your response and your kind welcome! I guess I'm just a skeptic and especially when it comes to the dire predictions that so many people make. I mentioned Y2K, but remember Ed Dames' prediction about the plant pathogens from the so-called companion (which never existed) of Comet Hale-Bopp? And how many times have you heard over the years people predict end times? And how about Al Gore's predictions about earth's fate due to global warming, which has now been re-termed climate change because we're actually beginning to undergo an overall cooling. These predictions have been happening since man has walked this earth, yet we're still here. And when people like Gilbert Eriksen begin to attempt tying events in with The Bible, it's an exercise in futility I believe. There are biblical prophecies yet to be fulfilled before we see the end times. Again Kira, I believe if we really had something to fear externally like this, we'd certainly know for a fact that a brown dwarf was present now and there'd not simply be mere speculation about it. I think we have much more to fear with the nature of man and destruction from within rather than aliens or a planetary or stellar body intervening in earth's existence. I'm quite certain we'll be here in 2012 and beyond.
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Post subject: Mensa 517! Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:23 am |
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All I have to say is WOW! What information. I am very glad I was able to read this subject. And am happy there are people out there that do believe we are are great risk.
I myself am just a simple person, no claims of being physic or otherwise. Just a ex-military vet. And Chef that has had horrible reaccuring dreams. That up until now, seem to be about the things I have read here! I hope for all our sakes it is wrong, but what do you do if it is?
I am going to guess not much we can do! Only get closer to the Lord above, and hope this happens not in the near future.
We all have the abilities, but many choose not to see. I myself wasn't given a choice in the matter. And in two days prbably won't be able to type at all! ( Tumor in brain to removed) But I wanted to make my comments now.
If that does happen. I hope I am not interrupting the important issues here. But I hope to see more on this subject.
All the info provided by Mensa517 and Phoenix all I will say is "KUDOS"!
Baberham
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Post subject: Re: wormwood the falling star Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:40 am |
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Anuatlantian wrote: and a third of the creatures of the sea with souls died.
I'd never noticed that line before. Interesting...
I heard the C2C show the other night. I'm a bit of an easy mark when it comes to things like end-times prophecies, 2012, nibiru etc. ie. I want to believe... However after that radio show I was left with a less than adequate feeling that Gilbert Eriksen was a good and credible source. Just my $0.02
I guess the proof is in the pudding though. Can anyone link to any corroborating astronomical data showing there is something where/when Gilbert suggests to look? I think it's possible that it's a big sky and amateur astronomers may not be looking in the right spot, at the right time, with the right parameters. However maybe we could get people looking according to Gilbert's Rx and see what's going on. Perhaps a better request for an astronomy forum.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:51 am |
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Dear NaturalMystik,
Just remember, when Gilbert wrote his book in 2007, he was sure something pretty spectacular should have been happening by now, and nothing outside ordinary variances appears to be happening astronomically, meteorologically, or geologically, directly in the middle of the time-frame he cited. And I guess he's done an update, but I call that tapdancing. True prophets don't have to make adjustments! Your prediction is true in whole or it's not true at all. But again, I look at it for what it is - entertainment - and it is fun to listen to people's speculations!
And one more thing, indeed it is a big sky, but Gilbert kept stressing RA 18 hours and the constellation Sagittarius, and specifically "the teapot," so that really narrows down the field and would make this visible from even the northern hemisphere now. Believe me, there are so many astronomers, professional and amateur, constantly scanning the entire night sky, northern and southern hemispheres. Something of this magnitude would certainly have been discovered by now and would certainly have been mentioned in astronomical journals and blogs and Sky and Telescope and Astronomy magazines. Every minute asteroid, planetoid, comet and extrasolar discoveries are quickly publicized. There is just no way that something this spectacular could remain muted this close to Gilbert's predicted time-frame, even if you believe in a conspiracy. I know my comments have probably put a damper on this exciting astronomical "news," but often times the truth is kinda mundane. Sorry.
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Kira
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:09 pm |
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Hello all
In my search this morning I found this video. Seems someone found the brown dwarf on a star program:
http://tinyurl.com/n47pr8
then that area of the stars, in the program was taken off. Anyways, it's pretty interesting.
baberham, thank you so much for your posts. I haven't read the dreams yet, but will after this. I hope with all my being that your surgery goes well.
I understand what your saying Truthseeker, so many prophesies that have been for told only to not happen. Too many lol.
The problem with this is it's a brown dwarf. They don't show up unless you are using certain filters. I still haven't found the exact link I wanted to post, but the last link Phoenix posted is one I was looking for.  There are more though. One was an in depth posting about the Sagittarius constellation and how it was moving to collide with us, carrying this brown dwarf with it. The brown dwarf being the binary sun of this solar system of ours.
Sorry, I wish I was more scientifically minded so I could get my thoughts and what I've read down in a better way.  Since hearing about this I've tried to find more on the scientific side of this than Bible or psychic type writings. I'm not done looking for more links. I know they are somewhere. But this is more then a prophesy. There's plenty in science to back it up.
One thing that is for certain, the planet is changing, so are the other planets in this system. Earth has gone through many catastrophic natural events. It's been a long time for since we've seen anything like them. We don't know as much as we think we do when it comes to the universe, we're so small in comparison. I think it's pretty presumptuous/overconfident to think we can not be affected by what goes on out there. Especially since we know more about the ocean than we do our solar system. Which isn't much. 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:38 pm |
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Dear Kira,
I read with interest your latest post. You mentioned the constellation Sagittarius in regards to someone's thought that it might collide with us. What you need to understand is all those stars that make up Sagittarius and all other constellations are far apart from each other and at varying distances from us, with the major stars in the constellation ranging from 77 light years to 306 light years away, all travelling in their own orbits around the center of our enormous galaxy. So no constellation will ever move in lock-step towards us and threaten us in any way. And even if one of those stars was headed our way, even if the sun were static and the nearest one headed directly towards us at the spped of light, the catastrophe would still be 77 years in the future. But, because of physics, that's not gonna happen. Remember the sun is moving through space, too, heading in the direction of the constellation Hercules, in which each of those stars is moving independently as well, within our own galaxy and we complete a revolution around the center of our galaxy once every 220 million years. Everything moves relative to one another. Even when galaxies collide, there are few stellar collisions because the space between individual stars is so great.
So Kira, I hope you'll realize that this event is not happening. Other astronomers would be confirming that Gilbert Eriksen was correct, and look, if we were going to be destroyed, what possible good could come from a conspiracy at that point? The burden of proof is on Gilbert. He's told people where to look, so if he's so sure, why doesn't he find this object, photograph it in either the visual or infrared spectrums and back up his claim? The reason is is that he can't do it because it doesn't exist. Consider the nearest star to us, Proxima Centauri, which is little more than a brown dwarf itself. It is over four light years away and can only be seen with a telescope, yet we track its every movement through space, comparing it to the background stars. An object as close as this Wormwood is supposed to be, near Neptune's orbit, would easily be seen by now with the naked eye, even by us in the northern hemisphere if it were where he says it is. But the mathematics don't bear this out and no credible scientists are talking about this. Gilbert is an entertainer and great story-teller and he's done his job. But to take his claim seriously is a sheer waste of time. Trust me on this one Kira.
One more thing Kira. You will see and hear people talk about all kinds of phenomena. Don't believe 99.9% of it. I received an email recently about Mars and how it was supposed to approach the earth so closely in August that it would appear as large as the full moon. I just laughed. Mars is nearly opposite the sun from us right now!
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:56 pm |
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There are 3 things you cannot trust government, science and religion. There are so many lies that are told from the three..and it is not for our benefit.
Truthseeker1 I am curious..what you mean by the event is not going to happen?..do you mean the large mass that is to come this way? OR the scenario itself as described Kira.
I know that there are events to come....we will see first hand...what is to happen.
It is not the fist time in our history this planet X or Nibiru or whatever you call it...has come by..We have had it happen and made record of it in the past...the only difference is...we are not to survive this passing...nothing will here on Earth.
So..I have an inside source..and was wondering..whats your source?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:12 am |
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Dear entity,
If Nibiru/Wormwood/Planet X has been here before, and if its synodic period is 3,600 years as Gilbert claims, where is the record of its appearance and its effect on the earth? Since this was during our recorded history, where are the documents that prove its existence? And, think about this objectively, if the astronomers in the 19th century, without aid of modern computers and inferior telescopes could find Neptune after examining the perturbed orbit of Uranus and later in the 20th century, astronomers could find tiny Pluto from the perturbed orbit of Neptune, then certainly, with all of our advanced equipment, including satellites and modern computers, and brilliant physicists and astronomers would be able to have located by now a Jupiter-massed companion to the sun that lies outside the ecliptic plane, don't you think? And I can assure you, no such discovery could be squelched in a conspiracy because every astronomer would want the claim to fame about such a find! And what would be the point, if we were all eventually going to see the thing in our skies anyway? Furthermore, there is much that Gilbert stated during the Coast to Coast program that was errant, including that 0 hours Right Ascension was on the autumn side of the celestial sphere. Wrong. Spring side. Also, since a brown dwarf is a gas giant planet/failed star, it could not have 1/17th of the solar mass with high iron content since any brown dwarf would mostly consist of gaseous or possibly liquid hydrogen and helium, with a minimal rocky core and a mass that would not be more than about 13 Jupiter masses (the point at which hydrogen fusion begins to occur in a stellar body) with only trace amounts of other elements, and overall mass far short of the sun. (Did you know the solar mass is 99% of the solar system's mass?) Sorry. Gilbert's science just doesn't add up. So, there is no Wormwood in our solar system right now and until I see scientific and credible evidence that there is a missing prominent member to our solar system, I won't believe such stories. The burden of proof is on those making the claim, not those who are the nonbelievers. I would ask you, if Gilbert Eriksen knows that this object is there and knows where to find it, then why hasn't he himself provided the evidence? Ya just can't believe everything (or even most things) that ya hear. And I'm curious why you would believe this fellow just because he was on a radio show and written a book? You don't even know him, so why would you be so quick to believe what this total stranger writes in a book and states on a radio program?
You stated you have a source. What is your "inside" source that convinces you that the fable of Nibiru/Planet X/Wormwood is true and that we're about to be anhialated? What records can you cite that documents a previous interaction with this object? Also, how do you "know" that these events are going to happen? I don't know anyone that can state for sure what the future holds so I'm just curious how you know. Also, what are your credentials? Have you ever seriously studied astronomy and physics? Spent time behind the ocular of a telescope? I don't ask these questions to seem crass, it's just that talk is cheap.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:14 pm |
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Great videos Phoenix, I find it hard to dismiss the scientific evidence and the historic evidence IS there.
The problem Truthseeker1 is that 99.9% dismissal leaves one in a 3D world. A 3D world that is nothing near the truth. I've seen enough 'phenomena' to know there is much more to this place than we can even imagine. So I'm less apt to dismiss or need concrete proof. Some things can't be measured the way we measure things.
I'm not only going by what this Gilbert is saying, he's not the only one talking about this. There is definitely a change going on in our solar system. I have no idea if this will happen in our lifetime, but one day it will. It's what goes on in the universe, all the time. Why NOT here?
_________________ "Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens" - Jimi Hendrix
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:39 am |
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Kira, Seatbelt,
Yes, what is being reported however is how Wormwood is affecting our weather more and more as it does its cosmic dance.
Look out for really strange weather, storms, clouds, lightning, but especially look for things never before seen by climatologist. That is showing up more and more. Also look out for more exploding meteors and strange space phenomenon close to our two yearly solstices.
The big picture is showing a definite pattern.
*Cheers*
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