Link to a story about a red rain in 2001 in India, with at least one researcher believing that it contains microbes from a comet!

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1723913,00.html

This is amazing. I dont remember hearing anything on national tv at the time about it though?

Dont the Indians have a festival where they cover themselves in red dye and then jump in the Ganges? This may have happened before.

Anyone know if there are any biblical links of red/blood rain falling at the end times?


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We have a thread discussing it here:

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopicp-67739-.html#67739

Your question interested me Lucifer so went hunting for a connection to the end of times and red rain, there were none in the English version of the bible.So I searched with just Rain and there were four pages with verses that mention rain.Funnily enough there is only one in Revelations.

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Revelation 11:6:
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Whole Chapter: http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults.php?passage1=Revelation+11&version=9


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This reminds me that I'd heard someone talking about this one day. Even more interesting is that this "dust" reportedly was said off the record to be able to reproduce. Something to keep an eye on I'd say.

Not likely... why? Either way, isn't it a common idea that many scientists may produce jealousy over this matter? I mean, if it's extraterrestrial biology then this guy that found out will be rich and famous!
If enough scientists say the issue is ridiculous then it's harder for a man to get support.

I don't know, seems plausible.

This reminded me of something I read about cases of fallen chemtrail residue containing erythrocytes (red blood cells). I don't know if red rain was involved or not in those cases.


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I had been thinking about 'Holi' - the Indian Festival of colours.

http://www.colorsofindia.com/holi/aboholi.htm

I just remember seeing everyone covered in red dye which rang bells regarding this red rain.

Look forward to reading more about this topic!


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Latest On Red Rain Puzzle
Source: New Scientist Magazine Issue 2545

http://tinyurl.com/f6ehw

March 31, 2006


'Red Rain Puzzle is Still Up in the Air'
by Hazel Muir


When red rain fell over southern India in 2001 it was
sensationally suggested that the red particles in the rain could
be alien microbes. Now, after weeks of analysis at two labs in
the UK, microbiologists are still struggling to identify them.
It sounds like an episode of The X-Files, but a down-to-Earth
explanation is looking the more likely outcome.

Astronomer Chandra Wickramasinghe is studying the cells with
microbiologists at Cardiff University. "As the days pass, I'm
getting more and more convinced that these are exceedingly
unusual biological cells," he says.

The red rain fell sporadically over Kerala during two months in
2001. Godfrey Louis, a physicist at Mahatma Gandhi University in
Kottayam in Kerala, examined the red particles and, unable to
find DNA, suggested that they might be alien microbes that had
fallen to Earth on a comet (New Scientist, 4 March, p 34).

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So now, a new summary to-date:

- confirmed as biological cells; "exceedingly unusual"
- not red blood cells, fungal spores or red algae
- DNA found, but no specific DNA sequences found yet;
DNA may then be unusual
- unusually thick cell walls
- "daughter cells"
- Trentepohlia alga?

The thick cell walls and "unusual" DNA could still be consistent
with cells originating from a (hostile) extraterrestrial space
environment, possibly? Do other known earthly
cells/microorganisms have "unusual" DNA in any significant way?
The thinking seems to be that they are terrestrial because they
have DNA, but so could extraterrestrial ones. They probably will
turn out to be terrestrial I suppose, but they do at least seem
to be quite unusual in nature. I look forward to their full
findings when published.

Re the possible Trentepohlia alga, I found the full CESS report
(PDF file), which explains their findings:

http://www.geocities.com/iamgoddard/Sampath2001.pdf

Is this the solution? If so, I'm a bit surprised the two other
UK labs haven't also easily confirmed this yet...?

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Granted, meterology isn't my forte, but my first thoughts on this were red tide - a phenomenon that occurs when a red algae blooms off of a marine coast (common in summers in Florida, and elsewhere, I assume), turning the water red. Couldn't it easily be that this particle of biological origin is this red algae - in water picked up elsewhere by a storm, then dumped back down here? There's anecdotes of this occuring with frogs, even...so why not algae?

By Thelma's recent post, though, this seems to be ruled out.

thelmadonna wrote:

So now, a new summary to-date:

- confirmed as biological cells; "exceedingly unusual"
- not red blood cells, fungal spores or red algae

Certainly interesting, though! I wonder, though, why is there only this vial sitting in a lab when this red rain fell for nearly two months? Wouldn't you think some scientist would have caught on that maybe they should be collecting samples and testing this? And why, 5 years later after the event, is there such little attention paid to the inconclusivity of the results?


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Popular Science magazine, June 2006, pg.31,33

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As bizarre as it may seem the sample jars brimming with cloudy, reddish rainwater in Godfrey Louis' Lab in southern India may hold, well, aliens. In April, Louis, a solid-state physicist at Mahatma Gandhi University, published a paper in the prestigious peer-reviewed journal Astrophysics and Space Science in which he hypothesizes that the samples (water taken from the mysterious blood-colored showers that fell sporadically across Louis' home state of Kerela in the summer of 2001) contain microbes from outer space.
Specifically, Louis has isolated strange, thick walled, red tinted cell like structures about 10 microns in size. Stranger still, dozens of his experriments suggest that the particles may lack DNAyet still reproduce plentifully, even in water superheated to nearly 600 degrees farenheit. (The known upper limit for life in water is about 250 degrees) So how to explain them? Louis speculates that the particles could be Extraterrestrial bacteria adapted to the harsh conditions of space and that the microbes hitched a ride on a comet or meteorite that later broke apat in the upper atmosphere and mixed with rain clouds above India. If his theory proves correct, the cells would be the first confirmed proof of alien life and as such, could yield tantalizing new clues to the origins of life on Earth.
Last winter Louis sent some of his samples to astronomer Chandra Wickramasinghe and his colleagues at Cardkff University in Wales, who are now attempting to replicate his experiments; Wickramasinghe expects to publish his initial findings later this year.
Meanwhle, more down to Earth theories abound. One Indian government investigation conducted in 2001 lays blame for what some have called "blood rains" on algae. Other theories have implicated fungal spores, red dust swept up from the Arabian Peninsula, even a fine mist of blood cells produced by a meteor striking a high flying flock of bats.
Louis and his colleagues dismiss all these theories, pointing to the fact that both algae and blood cells have thin walls and die quickly when exposed to water and air. More important, they argue, blood cells don't replicate. "We've already got some stunning pictures (transmission electron micrographs) of these cells sliced in the middle." Wickramasinghe says, "We see them budding, with little daughter cells inside the big ones."
Louis' theory holds special appeal for Wickramainghe. A quarter of a century ago, he co-authored the modern theory of panspermia, which posits that bacteria riddled space rocks seeded life on arth. "If it's true that liffe on Earth was introduced bycomets four billion years ago." the astronomer says, "one could expect that microorganisms are still injected into out environment from time to time. This could be one of those events."
The next significant step, explains University of heffield microbiologist Milton Wainwright, who is part of another British team now studying Louis' samples, is to confirm whether the cells truly lack DNA. So far, only preliminary DNA test has come back positive. "Life as we know it must contain DNA, or it's not life." he says, "but even if this organism proves to be an anomaly, the absence of DNA wouldn't necesarily mean it's extraterrestril.
Louis and Wickramasighe are planning further experiments to test the cells for specific carbon isotopes. If the results for specific carbon isotopes falls outside the norms for life on Earth, it would be powerful new evidence for Louis' idea, of which even Louis himself remains skeptical. "I would be most happy to accept a simpler explanation." he says, "but I cannot find any."

Just thought I'd throw this in for any of you who might be interested in this .

Awesome, thanks White!
Very interesting phenomenon, kinda strange how it's still being kept in the dark.... thansk again, real compelling!




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Weird in the extreme to be sure.

Makes one wonder why it isn't bigger news?

Alien life or escaped experiment?

Something stranger?

Don't know which way to lean on this one.

READ THIS CAREFULLY...Here's the Original Story from 2001

Dust settles over Kerala's `red rain'

Vinson Kurian

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, July 31, 2001

IT'S official. The coloured rain in some parts of Kerala was caused by the fine dust thrown up by a disintegrating meteorite. The celestial body, passing at great speed, deposited the dust in the monsoon clouds, causing the downpour of colour.

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http://www.getfishy.com/2006/07/its-raining-fish.html
and

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/Jul232006/index2038362006722.asp


It rained live fish in Kerala town

From R Gopakumar DH News Service Thiruvananthapuram:

The incident happened at 12.30 in the afternoon at a small junction called Manna in Taliparamba, 20 km from Kannur town.



Thursday was one of those pleasant days in this monsoon season in Kerala with only an occasional drizzle disturbing the otherwise clear sky. As farmers wondered when they had last seen it rain cats and dogs, few would have thought that it would rain fish that day. It did !

The incident happened at 12.30 in the afternoon at a small junction called Manna in Taliparamba, 20 km from Kannur town. “It was a drizzle... at first nobody noticed it. But soon we saw some slushy objects on the ground and under speeding vehicles. When we picked them up, we were surprised. They were fish,’’ said a visibly surprised Abu, a provision stores owner at Manna.

“They were very much alive and looked like paral, the freshwater variety found in lakes and drains.. There were about 30 to 50 of them,’’ he told Deccan Herald over phone.


Two professors, Mr K I Mathew and Mr Khaleel Chuva—who teach at the Sir Syed College Taliparamba—have collected the celestial droppings from Abu and are studying the specimen. They said that the phenomenon appeared to be genuine and was not bogus as was initially suspected.

“How these survived is inexplicable, but the fish are of two stripes and are roughly the size of a pencil. People told me that the fish were ice-cold when they picked them up,’’ said Prof Churva, a botany teacher.

It is now claimed that fish rain had been reported from Peermedu in Idukki and Paravoor in Kollam in June which incidentally witnessed high-speed winds during the second phase of monsoon.

Experts say that it can happen during a storm when wind may sweep the earth's surface at great speed, creating whirlwinds or even small tornadoes that can catch debris on the surface. The clouds which carry them will open up sooner or later to drop the catch. Raining animals were first described by Pliny the Elder in the 1st century. Before the advent of modern science, supernatural explanations, from God to extra-terrestrial entities, were invoked to explain the phenomenon.

Russian scientist D V Nalivkin recounts numerous instances of fish rain in his 1983 book Hurricanes, Storms and Tornados. He even refers to raining of crabs in England, rats in Norway and hopping toads on Napoleon's army.


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http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7097_1751500,008700010006.htm


Believe it or not, it is raining fish in Kerala!

Ramesh Babu
Kannur, July 24, 2006

Advertisement


When dark clouds burst on Thursday noon people of the sleepy village of Manna (20 km north of Kannur), never thought it would be a real manna from heaven: It rained fish and many collected live ones straight from the sky. Sounds bizarre, but it’s true.

Two experts, who rushed to the area, have confirmed the celestial dropping did carry live fish. “We have collected the fish from locals. Almost the size of a small pencil, they carry two narrow stripes,” Prof Khaleel Chuva, a teacher in Taliparambha, explained. Prof Chuva and his colleague K I Mathew are studying the specimen.

Scientists argue it can happen during high-velocity winds, which may sweep the earth surface and catch light objects in the wind. The objects are released when the wind speed weakens.

But what is baffling scientists is the live nature of the fish. Many incidents of animal and crab raining were reported from different parts of the world. But ‘live rains’ were rare, experts admitted.

They collected buckets of the red rain.....


http://www.answers.com/topic/red-rain-in-kerala

crystalsage wrote:

They collected buckets of the red rain.....


http://www.answers.com/topic/red-rain-in-kerala

We've actually had the same article in The Book since July, but it looks like this version has some new pictures in it. I'll work on getting those in our page here. Thanks for the link crystalsage.

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/thebook/index.php/Red_rain_in_Kerala


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I saw jimwill linked to this thread elsewhere, so I thought I'd update it with a couple of relevant articles that I wrote about in my blog since the last update on the forums here.

Lichen and bacterial spores can survive surprisingly large blasts

and

Further studies on the "red rain" further the idea of it being non-terrestrial, and bacteria seem to be "natural born space travelers"


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I read about these a few years ago, the article said something about the red cells still living years after they were collected. They were in a container by themselves iirc. I wonder if these are immortal cells sent here by aliens for some purpose?

I wonder if they could be emptied of any DNA(if they have any) and our own injected into them? We could form hybrids of some sort from them?
peace

Kerala ... the land of the 'red rain' stands out as the most radioactive land...

thorium?

EDIT> fixed more mangled links. Please use the preview feature and get them right before posting (WT)



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Another interesting thing is the red cells are said to live in temperatures beyond any known earth cell. Up to 600 degrees f. Earth cells maax is 250 or so.
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Reports indicated that on August 21, 2007 red coloured rainfall occurred in a few places in the northern part of Kozhikode district. Places around Vadakara, a municipality in Kozhikode district, which is 50 kilometres (31 miles) northward of Kozhikode town witnessed this phenomenon. Centre for Water Resources Development and Management (CWRDM) an agency of government of India, was reported to be awaiting samples for examination.[29]

On September 6, 2007 the river Periyar turned red in the region of the Eloor industrial estate.[30]

A possibly related incident occurred in February 2008 when small fish started raining down towards the end of a sudden heavy rain in a village in Kerala. [31]

On July 31, 2008 an incident of red coloured rain occurred in the municipality of Bagadó, Chocó, Colombia. It has been reported that an individual took a sample of the rain to a laboratory and subsequently it was found to be "blood".[32][33]

Am am thinking there is definitely a link UFO witnessed taking up water.

Quote:

The Gosford UFO incident of 1994 where several upstanding and highly credible townsfolk including business owners,policemen,retired academics etc.. witnessed an unknown object taking up water from a lake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHQSE2uxDUA

The witnessess describe a brightly lit object hovering over the lake emitting five shafts of light whilst the water was frothing and bubbling beneath it.

There are many more accounts of UFOs witnessed taking on water - it seems the more you look into this subject,the more cases you find.

I did a little digging a while ago... ( I will see if I can find the thread) where our exploration of Using Bovine Blood for blood transfusions... the cattle mutilations... and cloning... led to some really 'interesting' assumptions...



note all the tales of abductions and breeding with humans???

The Kerala red rain were cells that could have been implanted with human DNA...

Or consider those cells as a storage system like Noah's Ark .. for storing all the various DNA's or clones of all the life forms on Earth...

Note it takes high heat to penetrate... activate...
so perfect for shipping in space.. to other worlds...


Maybe one of America's star wars projects knocked the UFO (that was a kind of a space lab).. out of it it's orbit???

Note how many UFO's seem to fall from the sky.. crash.... which is strange considering it is such an advanced technology... they seem to have a worse accident record than our planes!!!

Are the wars in the 'heavens' still being fought by the 'angels'?
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Why have I never heard of that this incident??? Of course all a skeptic has to say is "bullshit" and nobody'll believe it, but this seems pretty odd, and is there any explanation as to why it didn't have DNA, is it possible life can... live, without DNA?

Just heard this topic this morning on Coast to Coast. I was traveling to work so didn't listen too carefully but Linda Moultin Howe did some research on it:

Continuing her investigation into the mysterious red rain cells that fell in Kerala, India, she spoke with Godfrey Louis, Ph.D., Head of the Physics Dept. at Cochin University of Science in Kerala. He reported that the red cells showed unusual fluorescence not seen in terrestrial biomolecules, suggesting that the cells could have an extraterrestrial origin. More here.

Go to the "Coast to Coast" website..... for Friday, 2/27/09

Glowing alien cells?

Imagine if the rain came at night!