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AJ
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Post subject: The Ark of The Covenant Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:35 pm |
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 55 Location: Covington, KY
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I don't know if this is the right place to put this aritcle but it is fascinating.
(Note: below link is now dead, perhaps thejewishpress.com has the article archived.)
http://www.thejewishpress.com/news_article.asp?article=5198
The Race For The Lost Ark
Posted 8/3/2005
By Dvora Waysman
Thousands of people saw the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark", and most of them knew that Indiana Jones was based on a real person, famous archaeologist Dr. Vendyl Jones. Less well-known is another charismatic contender, who believes he will be the first to uncover the hiding place of this fabulous prize. He was recently in Jerusalem, and his name is Lt. Barry S. Roffman of the U.S. Coast Guard.
Roffman is basing his search on the Bible Code ... a code encrypted in the Bible some 3,000 years ago, now unlocked by computer. The mathematician who discovered the code was Dr. Eliyahu Rips, one of the world`s leading experts in group theory, the field that underlies quantum physics. Jones is basing his research on the Talmud. Once a Christian pastor, he left his post to become a leader of the Noahide movement, Gentiles who observe the seven laws of Noah. His search is aided by an ancient document found in Qumran together with the Dead Sea Scrolls, known as the "Copper Scroll." He is convinced that he has pinpointed the ark`s location. (Vendyljones.org.il/copperscroll). For Roffman`s research, you can hear a 30 minute radio broadcast by accessing www.biblecodenews.com
Dvora Waysman is a writer living in Jerusalem. She is the author of nine books, including Woman of Jerusalem; Esther and newly-released in paperback in English and Hebrew by Chaim Mazo Publishers The Pomegranate Pendant. She can be reached at [email protected] or website: www.dvorawaysman.com
Edited by jimwill to comply with copyright laws and forum rules (see Atricles from other websites) and to add note.
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vikingjedi
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:52 pm |
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The Bible already told us where it is.
Revelation 11:19
19And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
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GarryDenke
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:48 pm |
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Artifacts inside Brasen Altar beneath Heelstone
Not only are Moses and Aaron's corpses beneath Heelstone, but the gold Mercy Seat, the gold Ark of the Testimony, the gold Table for the Shewbread, the gold Candlestick, the gold Ephod, the gold Breastplate and the gold Altar of Incense also. According to DI new 2004 ground-penetrating radargram, all seven (7) are packed inside the brasen Altar of Burnt Offering 4 ft (1.2m) below Heelstone, with the southernmost gold Ark of the Covenant long axis being east-west. GD old 1656 core samples indicate the gold Table for the Shewbread as northernmost and gold Altar of Incense inside the brasen Altar of Burnt Offering in the center below the Stonehenge's Heelstone base.
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7529895]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10911569@N08/979647239
History has proven it was an excellent hiding place.
Where would you have hid it?
I like rocks.
And so the throne tabernacle beneath the 4 beast creatures encircled by the 24 elder species surrounded by 144,000 younger species and of course ten thousand times ten thousand even more younger species was another geophysical mystery solved by core drilling.
Around the House hiding Places
Inside speaker cabinets
Behind the back plate of mobile phone
A hole in the wall covered with a poster
A hole in the wall under a stairway
Taped to the top of a door
Inside a smoke detector
In the diaper genie
In the freezer
In a box of tampons
Below a false bottom in a fishing tackle box
Underneath the bottom drawer in a chest of drawers
On top of a suspended ceiling
In books (bibles)
On top of or below kitchen cabinets with edging
Inside electronics, such as an amp, clothes dryer, water heater or game cube
In the base of the grandfather clock
In the base of a table with removable leaves
On the plastic dummy PC card in a laptop
In the cat's litter box
Inside the hollow metal tubes of furniture
In the base of a porcelain lamp
In a big bag of dog food
Within the steering wheel of a car
In a car's door panel
Inside a guitar or instrument case
Inside the backup battery compartment of an alarm clock
Taped to the underside of a desk or chair
In the little area under the bottom shelf on most bookshelves
In an office storage box or envelope labeled "junk mail" or "oil change receipts"
In the yarn
On top of the leg of the grand piano
In a phony electrical outlet
Below the tissues in a box of tissues
On a shelf within the fireplace (the flue door)
In a gutted VHS tape
Inside the square metal casings of a streetlamp
In a nested plant container
Buried (rocks)
In a stack of paper plates
In a bottle of mouthwash
Inside carousel of 50 CD swapper
In band-aid tin in the medicine cabinet
Velcro-ed patches on clothes or backpacks
In the "P" trap of a sink
In the pockets of a jacket hanging in the closet
Behind the filter of HVAC unit
On the dog's collar
In an empty washing powder box
In a lamp between fluorescent bulbs
Under the dog food bowl
Inside a pony tail braid
Inside the shower curtain rod
Inside an automobile's subwoofer speaker box
Half-empty paint cans
Inside a sharps medical waste disposal container
May all of your hiding places have nothing to do with what you are hiding.
G-D
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TrentCoole
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:43 pm |
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 3847 Location: Bonavista, NL
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I don't know how this ties in with the subject at hand as you haven't given me reason to understand it. I would really like to read into your ideas so I will ask for at least one link or source of material that gave you this impression or lead you to this conclusion. But, I did notice you are posting the same message all over the internet which can be found:
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Here is the post you made exactly word for word in your post in this thread. I think it is a good idea to put into words what you want to express but at least you could make it a bit unique. I think it would be boring to post the same message all over the internet word for word.
Anyway, I'll let those in charge have a look & address your post.
_________________ Be Positive, NOW! Angus Rules!
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SolAris
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:57 am |
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 769 Location: The Med
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GarryDenke wrote: Around the House hiding Places
Hey wow, I missed this earlier. Gotta say, that was a very strange way to resurrect what was probably an even stranger original posting, way back form August of 2005! Three years later someone finally responds, how about that. I doubt I'd've stumbled on that old posting otherwise, but at least now I know Dvora Waysman of Jerusalem, hehe. What a shameless plug for that book.
I hope you're still reading this G-D (nice sig...), because then you could settle my curiousity as to how you think your list is pertinent to your claimed Throne under Stonehenge. Granted you say that hiding places should have nothing to do with the nature of the hidden thing - but could you just take this a bit further for me please?
This interests me as part of my ongoing study into the Theory of Hiding, which can encompass many different methods.
There is firstly the most famous "Purloined Letter" way of hiding something in plain sight. The main problem with your admittedly very extensive list above, is that all of these are basically the first places that your various "trained people" would look when coming to search someone's house, just like they did in that famous story. While what they were looking for was in fact just lying right there on the shelf.
Also, if you actually "hide" something, people would for sure think it was important, wouldn't they. Much better would be to just leave it lying where everyone can see, but maybe make them think it's something else, like a disguise. Or else make them somehow forget the original importance - and this was usually historically done by outlawing and persecuting the culture which used it.
Which brings us to the next Hiding Method, that of another famed (and innocent) detetive, Father Brown. His most memorable discussion in this regard goes as follows:
"Where does a wise man hide a pebble?" - "On the beach."
"And where does a wise man hide a leaf?" - "In the forest."
The third question came somewhat later and was - "Where does a wise man hide a body?" And the answer was, in a mass of other bodies, on a battlefield. If there's no forest to hide the leaf, then he grows one. And if there's no battlefield, then he starts a war.
So you hide something by putting it among a million other similar somethings. Of course the problem with this method is that afterwards it's very difficult to find the thing yourself. It could be one reason why a lot of "hidden treasure" remains hidden, as whoever hid simply can simply no longer locate it himself...
But now, to get back to the original topic of this thread, and to what you say about the Ark being buried under Stonehenge. Well, of course this monument precedes the Ark by about a thousand years or so, but let's say they brought it there afterwards with Queen Teamnhir, Joseph of Arimathea, or whoever, and just buried it there, subtly shifting the big rocks to mask the spot. Okay then, I agree, that would be a great hiding place. I doubt anyone's about to move those dolmens anytime soon.
And since I'm already using this opportunity to rant, let me recommend another excellent place to hide things, where even if somebody does think of looking, they never could anyway. You simply hide it under some famous Holy Site, which nobody would ever let you "disturb". Preferrably in some hotly contested region, like Jerusalem for example, where no serious excavation of the really imporant parts under the Old City can ever take place, as it could just spark enough various religous fanatics around the world into some Total Holy War.
Somebody forseeing this in the old days could've simply buried the Ark of the Covenant right there, as the region was always contested. And even if they do find "the Ark", its discovery could never be revealed for the same political reasons. Because this could send believers into an unprecedented frenzy of piligrimage, erecting the "Third Temple" or something, or another act which would surely be seen as War by Islam, on whose territory most of this antiquity resides. This is why discoveries like Ron Wyatt's will always be publicly debunked, even if they are true (of this by the way I'm not sure.)
I myself believe that I have pinpointed the proverbial "Templar Grail" to another hiding place which is not less effective, in the very same neighborhood. It is sitting in a lead-lined crypt under an old and abandoned decrepit church standing on Arab lands, looking very insignificant, and guarded only by a local family. Nobody could *ever* get a permit to dig in a place like that, short of starting a major international conflict, which I doubt anybody in their right mind is prepared to do. But maybe they just haven't done it yet because the time isn't ripe, and one day they will...
Anywas, thank you for this chance to mull over some of that, even if you never do see this.
Best wishes,
Sol
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shiva
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:15 pm |
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 134 Location: the sunnyside of florida
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Trying to find where it is located is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. But i think the important thing to know is what it was. And i think me and my future hubby have fiqured it out. Both me and dh are both in electronic repair. I was just watching something on the ark and they were going over the description and such. When i noticed, the way it was described and the powers behind it. Get ready for it.....
My theory -
The ark is a huge capacitor. Thats right you heard me. Lets first take into account the description on how it was designed. The metals that were used and the "decorations" Gold is very conduction, which is why it is used in the best electronics. (video cables for example) The "wings of god" on each side. If you look very carefully there is a small gap between the wings. Much like a spark gap. Well you are prob really thinking im a nutjob by now, but let me continue.
Most ppl will argue that there was no electricity back then, but wait are you sure. We are all aware of the bagdad battery correct. I have been researching the ancient eqyption culture for awhile now as a hubby, so i have seen prob every hieroglyphic there is. I think sometimes people try and make things more complicated that what they actually are. If you sit down and look at the art literally, it takes on new meaning. I need to find a picture of it but i keep seeing one over and over, its the eygption holding a long tube with a snake inside. Well if you stand back and look at it, it looks like a lightbulb. A very large lightbulb. My egyption theories tho are for another day.
Now take a look at the legend,
Quote: sparks from between the two cherubim killed serpents and scorpions
as found from the wiki site
Movies depict it as horrible painful death to all those who open it. Well of course when your being shot with lighting bolts i would say in would be painful! I have no proof for my theories. Just watching all the wonderfull videos on google and youtube brought me to this opinion.
Please forgive me if i rambled through this im writing this as im working and in between calls, this little bit has taken me over a hour to write
***I never said i was a genius .... I just said im smarter than everyone else***
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SolAris
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:08 pm |
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shiva wrote: My theory - The ark is a huge capacitor.
Hi Shiva, and thanks for sharing that.
Indeed there can be little doubt, and this is widely accepted now in the Aleternative field, that the Ark was some kind of a "technical instrument" - given the precise and highly detailed specifications for building it, which are akin to many tech manuals one encounters.
The most common theory is that the Ark was some type of a communication device - because through it Jehovah spoke to the Israelites in the desert. Later it was housed in the Holy of Holies of the Jerusalem Temple, which was a chamber called the "Devir", or Spokesman, because Jehovah's word still issued from there.
The Ark does altogether resemble a large storage battery or a capacitor of some sort. But there is also a likelihood that the precise meaning of the necessary materials was lost through the ages and in translations, which is why we can no longer recreate its "exact" function, even with modern technology.
I myself believe that not electricity was was involved in powering that device, but another type of "energy" which we simply haven't learned to harness yet, probably having to do with undiscovered quantum properties of various radioactive materials and crystals. That some type of "radiation" issued from that box would be consistend with the varous ailments which struck people around who did not wear the proper protective clothing. The effect went far beyond merely touching the thing, and extended to the entire region (such as when the Philistine town of Ashdod was struck with disease when the Ark was kept there.)
Of course I realize that a normal engineer or a physicist would shoot me for talking about unknown "undiscovered energies", but that's the Alternative field for ya. Here we can believe anything we want, no matter how unaccepted in the mainstream.
Best wishes, and good luck with the research,
Sol
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TrentCoole
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:56 pm |
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 3847 Location: Bonavista, NL
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Here's some of my take on it. The Ark, as well as other sacred objects from other cultures, was strictly off limits to all but a few select members of society & they had to go through different chambers before approaching it. That's why the technology was not passed down through the ages. The manuals were held in highly guarded & heavily fortified structures by the best architects & engineers, hence the pyramids. After an invasion or take over of power, the knowledge that wasn't well hidden or safe-housed, were destroyed by those who either didn't want anyone else to gain access to them or through ignorance, . They didn't understand what they were seeing & it wasn't composed of gold or other precious materials. This has been seen through the practices of tomb robbers from the past. The drawings, carvings, jars, scripts & so on are found smashed or chiseled into, when they are the very things that tell us the secrets to the past, & probably the future.
_________________ Be Positive, NOW! Angus Rules!
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Daemios
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:07 pm |
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I've always thought that the Ark was an ancient piece of technology, but I think few, if any, of the people that interacted with it understood it themselves. I believe that the spirit they knew as God kept those secrets to himself, otherwise they may have tried to copy it and use it for their own reasons. I believe it was a device that harnesses forms of energy that are unknown to science as Sol mentioned. Who could really know what it's capable of unless the original or something similar is found somewhere.
The problem with that is the fact that humans have always valued gold and crystals as mere ornaments, and any ancient devices left in the care of declining societies would have been melted down long ago, I think.
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TrentCoole
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:03 am |
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I read recently about the top discoveries in astronomy & the experts from that field are saying there just may be parts of physics which we don't yet understand. Yes, this may have been something other than what we now understand. It may be a source of energy unknown to us now or a different method of using what we already have access to.
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shiva
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:57 am |
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 134 Location: the sunnyside of florida
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oh dont get me wrong "electricity" was prob not the best term for me to use. But i do understand the alternative energy you speak of. In fact that is what my dh is workign on, being able to harness that energy around us, much like tesla did. But the lightning bolts i speak of, occur in nature and a a great example of that energy around us being focused. We could go on and on for months trying to decipher what it was where it is. I do belive it has more meaning to it than what the "bible" says it is.
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Graham
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:28 pm |
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shiva wrote: . Sol wrote: Here we can believe anything we want, no matter how unaccepted in the mainstream.
Thanks for that prompt Sol, it gives me the courage of my conviction/opinion to post on the above subject.... here goes
I personally look at this more with a symbolistic/metaphoric eye than a literal one.
Whenever the Ark is spoken about it is described as a vessel of sorts that carries within it great energy and divine properties.
Literally it would be represented by a physical object that we can see, yet in the metaphoric/symbolistic/spiritual world this would be something we could not see and therefore many people would not understand nor comprehend and therefore as you so correctly say shiva: “Trying to find where it is located is like trying to find a needle in a haystackâ€
_________________ The only honour that man can pay his Creator is to seek Him.
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business and eventually degenerates into a racket.
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SolAris
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:42 am |
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 769 Location: The Med
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Daeimos wrote:
> The problem with that is the fact that humans have always valued gold and crystals as mere ornaments, and any ancient devices left in the care of declining societies would have been melted down long ago, I think.<
TrentCoole wrote:
> It may be a source of energy unknown to us now or a different method of using what we already have access to. <
Graham wrote:
> We all have the “divine sparkâ€
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Yygdrasilian
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Post subject: Tet of the Ark Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:55 am |
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Could be there's a physics to enlightenment that will provide us with the Unified Field Theory.
If we could translate that into a technology for altering electromagnetic frequencies to affect states of matter, well, we might be able to levitate giant stones and set them with hairline precision. I bet it's simple, like the Indian rope trick.
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Graham
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Post subject: Re: Tet of the Ark Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:38 pm |
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Yygdrasilian wrote: Could be there's a physics to enlightenment that will provide us with the Unified Field Theory.
If we could translate that into a technology for altering electromagnetic frequencies to affect states of matter, well, we might be able to levitate giant stones and set them with hairline precision. I bet it's simple, like the Indian rope trick.
........ and so build the Pyramids of Egypt ...........
Graham
_________________ The only honour that man can pay his Creator is to seek Him.
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business and eventually degenerates into a racket.
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